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Henro

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Let's see if this gets removed. My wife came back from getting her hair done a few weeks ago and said the lady before her told her her 78 YO mother in a home was talked into the j@b. She now gets her period. I had trouble believing this until others mentioned it and even then thought how could this be.

My Father was talked into the j@b by his Dr. over 3 months ago. To this day his arm is sore and it really hurts when he tries to raise it. He is also always fatigued.

A few weeks back we were at a campsite we made along the Schuylkill River with the neighbor and his new GF. They are in mid 30's and both got the M@dern@ double. She has had her period daily for three months now. Been hearing all kinds of crazy stuff.
My Mom refuses it, I said but Mom, I would like a little brother.

If you are afraid then YOU stay home. It has never been my job to keep other Americans or anyone for that matter safe.
Don't get me wrong, if I see someone in trouble I will do my best to help.
I even went into a very rough surf in Costa Rica to save the Jet ski girl. Imagine that! She could not swim!
When I got out to her she wrapped her legs around me making it harder to swim. The look in her eyes was unbelievable. We made it to shore and she thanked me and left.
Wife freaked out and said she could have pulled you under. I could not just do nothing.
Jkrez, reading your post made me realize getting the jab did not offer me the side affect I could use at my age: The Viagra syndrome!

I guess if they offer a booster shot I can hope...
 
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Jkrez, reading your post made me realize getting the jab did not offer me the side affect I could use at my age: The Viagra syndrome!

I guess if they offer a booster shot I can hope...
If THAT was a side affect I believe we would be well above the wanted 70%.
I am still OK in that department though and would still opt out. At least for now.
 

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Of course, the mainstream media is telling us what they want us to know. It’s obvious with a little checking. They should just be honest about it and quit pretending that what they are saying is always true. The same goes for the public health officials. I guess you could claim that they aren’t trying to mislead, but instead, just are giving what they think is currently true.

As others have noted, the vaccines do have side effects for at least for some people. There was never the claim that they were 100% effective. Likewise, some people died from Covid with and without the vaccine. We really don’t know how many because those numbers are kept secret. We don’t know what all of the effects are because they are being kept secret.

Getting Covid doesn’t guarantee death and vaccines don’t guarantee life. People with vaccines are spreading Covid if you believe what they are now saying about masks.

With that information, what should you do? I can’t tell you and don’t want to demand what you should do, but there is risk either way.
 

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Wow, I go away for a few days and all of a sudden we can discuss the virus again.
Will wonders never cease!
 
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Real or fake news, you decide. Interesting read, may explain why Clintons haven't been seen on the news lately, among others.

The politicians want covid to be the news stories not the audit findings.
 
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Real or fake news, you decide. Interesting read, may explain why Clintons haven't been seen on the news lately, among others.

The politicians want covid to be the news stories not the audit findings.
I don't know what you were trying to reference on that site but the 1st thing that came up at that url was
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This is your source for news?? lmao
 
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That statement is just so much BS. When your 'freedom of choice' endangers the lives of people around you your 'freedom of choice' should end.
I and 10 million other Americans have compromised immune systems. You probably know some - you may not know they are immunocompromised though. I took 2 shots. I'm fully vaccinated. My body will not produce antibodies. I am vulnerable. If I contract the disease the outcome is not very bright.
For someone to say "its my choice" is the epidemy of selfishness or a total lack of understanding.
I too have a compromised immune system. I got the vaccine but there’s no way to know if it will work effectively enough, should I contract COVID. The idea expressed that there aren’t facts available is simply not true. Hospitals compile data continuously to chart effective treatments and collect case numbers to track the epidemic. These numbers are simply beyond reproach, as they are not political or media based. As of a couple of months ago, 99% of the cases were unvaccinated people. The vaccines worked amazingly well. Because so many uninformed and misinformed people refused preventative treatment, herd immunity was never achieved. That’s why responsible vaccinated people are now becoming sick - unvaccinated people are walking Petri dishes for cultivating variants. Freedom of choice has nothing to do with anything vaccine related - it’s about responsibility. Those who refuse preventative treatment are responsible for the sick and the dead. The world of freedom of choice as you describe it would still have polio in it.
 
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So anyway, is it safe to assume that we all agree that if someone decides not to get vaccinated, and ends up seriously ill, or even dies, no need for us to shed a tear…

Their decision, their problem. End of story, right?
Same for the people that are paralyzed and dead from taking the vaccine?
 
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Polio was actually a pandemic. 80% of people that had Covid didn’t even know they had it. Of the remaining 20% of people that contracted it and had symptoms, something like 3% of them had moderate or severe symptoms that required a hospital visit.
Also, the co-morbidity rate is very high. They don’t list them or even talk about them.
So someone can be morbidly obese, have high blood pressure, be diabetic, and smoke 2 packs a day, contract covid and the only thing you hear is they are in the hospital or died of Covid.
I personally know hospital staff that have been in the thick of it. It got to the point where the ER nurses could tell who would die as they walked into the ER. Obese people had less of a chance. Drug addicts, even heavy smokers with already damaged lungs...

She hasn’t spent time with her aging parents since this started. However, her 70 something year old mother tested positive for the antibodies. She had it at some point and didn’t even know it.

If I had a peanut allergy I would be responsible for the risks I take around peanuts. I wouldn’t go into a candy factory and expect them to protect me from peanuts. I would stay away.
 
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Of course, the mainstream media is telling us what they want us to know. It’s obvious with a little checking. They should just be honest about it and quit pretending that what they are saying is always true. The same goes for the public health officials. I guess you could claim that they aren’t trying to mislead, but instead, just are giving what they think is currently true.
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It isn't just the MSM. OTT censors anything that goers against the current "group think" message.

I posted several headlines from Newspapers and News Channels about the vaccine and the side effects last week. 2 hours later the post has been censored/deleted. These were headlines from US newspapers and news channels that OTT thought they needed to censor to protect you from seeing. - SMH
 
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Same for the people that are paralyzed and dead from taking the vaccine?
I suppose so.

But how many of them are there? 1 per million? No comparison to the number who are dying that are not vaccinated. .

Any way, nobody seems to want to respond to a simple question. Do you care if someone who declines to get the vaccination dies after contracting the virus? Sorry I don’t care.

I certainly do do care if someone who can’t get the vaccination gets sick or worse.
 
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I too have a compromised immune system. I got the vaccine but there’s no way to know if it will work effectively enough, should I contract COVID. The idea expressed that there aren’t facts available is simply not true. Hospitals compile data continuously to chart effective treatments and collect case numbers to track the epidemic. These numbers are simply beyond reproach, as they are not political or media based. As of a couple of months ago, 99% of the cases were unvaccinated people. The vaccines worked amazingly well. Because so many uninformed and misinformed people refused preventative treatment, herd immunity was never achieved. That’s why responsible vaccinated people are now becoming sick - unvaccinated people are walking Petri dishes for cultivating variants. Freedom of choice has nothing to do with anything vaccine related - it’s about responsibility. Those who refuse preventative treatment are responsible for the sick and the dead. The world of freedom of choice as you describe it would still have polio in it.
Appreciate your comments and agree with the conclusion.

This hits home as I just ended quarantine from getting Covid despite vaccination and avoidance of large gatherings (no planes, no baseball games, no bars, limited restaurants). With 58% of our local county population being unvaccinated and masking restrictions removed, I was very likely infected by the unvaccinated.

As I have heart issues, have senior citizen neighbors and a father with stage 4 cancer...it is imperative that people get vaccinated to not only protect themselves from more serious covid complications but to protect others from spreading this awful china-introduced virus.
 
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It isn't just the MSM. OTT censors anything that goers against the current "group think" message.

I posted several headlines from Newspapers and News Channels about the vaccine and the side effects last week. 2 hours later the post has been censored/deleted. These were headlines from US newspapers and news channels that OTT thought they needed to censor to protect you from seeing. - SMH
IF true this is unfortunate. Would be better if the entire thread were deleted.

Again, if the claim is actual fact...
 

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...but to protect others from spreading this awful china-introduced virus.
I‘m not Chinese but sort of find this one sentence offensive. Huge country. Maybe a greater chance of things developing. Behind the rest of the developed world in many ways. Again greater chance of things developing.

Just seems like a racist comment to me...even if based in logic...more like a virus that appeared first in China, rather than being introduced by China. Maybe just semantics.
 
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I‘m not Chinese but sort of find this one sentence offensive. Huge country. Maybe a greater chance of things developing. Behind the rest of the developed world in many ways. Again greater chance of things developing.

Just seems like a racist comment to me...even if based in logic...more like a virus that appeared first in China, rather than being introduced by China. Maybe just semantics.
Don't appreciate being called a Racist...notice I said China not Chinese...If you are protecting the PRC and that government's role, including complete lack of transparency, then nothing more I want to say to or hear from you.
 
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I‘m not Chinese but sort of find this one sentence offensive. Huge country. Maybe a greater chance of things developing. Behind the rest of the developed world in many ways. Again greater chance of things developing.

Just seems like a racist comment to me...even if based in logic...more like a virus that appeared first in China, rather than being introduced by China. Maybe just semantics.
So to recap, we are racist, you dont care if we die, etc, etc. Youre a great human..lol
 
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It appears there are agitators here. This is just another way the current government is dividing the people. If we don't buy the government line, then we are the worst people in the world.
Folks, don't fall for the delusions.
 
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