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What I'm trying to say, is I've run tractors for years with single stage non-live PTO with little trouble. But now that I have a two stage clutch, I wouldn't want to go back. The extra HP is noticeable when mowing, as is the two stage. If not too late, I would change my order. Best I can...

I'm just glad I got the L3800DT.:D I got a screamin deal of 15K, but would have paid the extra $ for 2 stage & more HP!

Same here... I wasn't dead set on the JD, but I did look hard at it & the others. Two years later am very glad I got the L3800! :cool:

I've wondered also, then came to the same conclusion Bota did....

Mom got it dirty! Yes a cover/shield for the fuel filter is something I've been meaning to make for mine, but haven't done it yet.

Proper ballast (counter weight) on the 3 pt hitch is the most important part of FEL use. The rest is common sense and practice.

Most of our drive is uphill and fairly step in places. We also have 'speed bumps' in the right spots to divert water off. Works great. :cool:

I see no reason to use the rippers. I've been doing a mile long gravel drive for 24 years and have never put the rippers into it.

That would be enough counter weight. Didn't know if his had one or not.:confused:

What tires? Ag tires are best for mud. If you have a FEL you need extra weight on the 3 pt hitch to counter that. Problem with FEL and no weight on the 3 pt, is the front tires have too much weight on them and sink quick. And because of the FEL hanging out front the rear tires have little...

Welcome to the site. You will not regret gettin a L3800. :cool:

Yeah, R-4s' & HST just don't cut it for me. I could make do with either but not what I'd want. :cool:

Welcome & Congrats! L3800DT over two years here and and still impressed with it! :cool:

Having a good dealer close is not a bad thing. Go for it. But like fordman said, I'd get the L3800...

This info isn't on the Kubota site?

Not sure what that means on the front axle. But we've been discussing the 50 hr service of a L3800 for a day or so just a few threads below. Link: http://www.orangetractortalks.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13940

He had just traded his R4s' for Ags' and was just playing.

True, but in my case, the loader is off unless I need it. Stays on most of the winter and off all summer. I Hate to mower with a loader on!

Your auger has been stuck in a hole for six months?

I'll mention the aluminum gear housing on the JD again. That really has no business on any tractor!!! Being able to take the loader off is also a huge factor!!!