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Keys do!!!! Ask my brother about that one. He found out the hard way, I found out by watching him
we were three. We learned not to do that again.Momma always said I was the smarter one
Darren> Go ahead do it. Go ahead, I dare you to..............Keys do!!!! Ask my brother about that one. He found out the hard way, I found out by watching him
Momma always said I was the smarter one
I was the smarter one to.
Lol, yea but you know how mothers lie.Keys do!!!! Ask my brother about that one. He found out the hard way, I found out by watching him
Momma always said I was the smarter one
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I used one of Mon's Bobby pins. Was an unpleasant surprise. Only takes once I mighr add...... 
What about Europe, Asia, Australia etc etc? No more outbreaks for them after Nov 3d too?
As long as people keep partially hiding and masking up, the virus will be active for years to come.
As soon as the media stops promoting it, it will run its coarse.
This is simple math that unfortunately, most people don't get.
If they're into masking up, of course. Masking ONLY DELAYS the Virus, doesn't make it die out.
It is a shame that people as so bad at math and easily duped. This is an extremely simplified example, but go ahead and model it as complex as you want, the end result will be the same either way. Until the virus runs into dead ends everywhere, it will just keep keeping on.
100 people in a room with airborn Covid.
The End Result,
100 people exposed
less than 50 get it at all (natural immunity)
Less then 25 of them show any symptoms at all
Less than 5 of them have serious symptoms.
Less than 3 of them need to be hospitalized.
One of them may die.
This entire test from the first exposure to the last person that is a dead end to it will be just under 6 weeks.
The First Time Ever New Approach
25 people in a room with Covid in it (wearing masks) 75 people partially hiding outside the room.
Now add 2 or 3 people and remove 2 or 3 people every week. How long will it be for it to run the course.
Some of them will be in the room with masks, gloves etc., and will avoid it THIS trip into the room (the law of averages though says they will get it eventually on one of the trips into the room), so they will REMAIN live active target hosts to the virus instead of a dead end.
This removing/adding (isolating/not isolating) will go on and on for years until the virus runs out of new hosts.
The end result,
100 people exposed
less than 50 get it at all (natural immunity)
Less then 25 of them show any symptoms at all
Less than 5 of them have serious symptoms.
Less than 3 of them need to be hospitalized.
One of them may die.
The only difference in the outcome is the extreme amount of time it was around. Well that and 60% of the nations restaurants are now out of business, OUR country has taken on 4+ trillion in new debt, many people are losing everything. <None of that latter part happens in the first group>.
Unfortunately, I am a math guy.
Partial hiding and masking CAN ONLY PROLONG IT.
100 people in a room with airborn Covid.
The End Result,
100 people exposed
less than 50 get it at all (natural immunity)
Less then 25 of them show any symptoms at all
Less than 5 of them have serious symptoms.
Less than 3 of them need to be hospitalized.
One of them may die.
This entire test from the first exposure to the last person that is a dead end to it will be just under 6 weeks.
The First Time Ever New Approach
25 people in a room with Covid in it (wearing masks) 75 people partially hiding outside the room.
Now add 2 or 3 people and remove 2 or 3 people every week. How long will it be for it to run the course.
Some of them will be in the room with masks, gloves etc., and will avoid it THIS trip into the room (the law of averages though says they will get it eventually on one of the trips into the room), so they will REMAIN live active target hosts to the virus instead of a dead end.
This removing/adding (isolating/not isolating) will go on and on for years until the virus runs out of new hosts.
The end result,
100 people exposed
less than 50 get it at all (natural immunity)
Less then 25 of them show any symptoms at all
Less than 5 of them have serious symptoms.
Less than 3 of them need to be hospitalized.
One of them may die.
The only difference in the outcome is the extreme amount of time it was around. Well that and 60% of the nations restaurants are now out of business, OUR country has taken on 4+ trillion in new debt, many people are losing everything. <None of that latter part happens in the first group>.
Unfortunately, I am a math guy.
Partial hiding and masking CAN ONLY PROLONG IT.
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It is also a shame that people are so bad at biochemistry and so easily duped. To leave out from the above discussion concepts such as cell mutation and physiology, with now word of likely successful vaccine candidates, speaks more to the politics around this issue than anything else. I always hated math.
The above example had nothing to do with the biology of it. Simply how long we will be dealing with it. We will be dealing with it regardless.
So due to "biochemistry" (a weak point for me for sure) you think we are better off prolonging it (possibly for years) and continue to ruin the livelihoods of people and economies?
How so?
Since I can’t stipulate to the belief that wearing masks does anything whatsoever to prolong this, I can’t really answer your question. I do know if we kill off all its customers, there really isn’t any point reopening any business.
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Unlike yourself, the Virus is much smarter than you think. It knows that if it kills off all it's "hosts" it WILL die off. Therefore, and it's being proved now, it has mitigated it's killing power. i.e. it's not as virulent as when it began.
Well, you did say you didn't like math.
The "kill all the customers" is a total straw man. WE KNOW THE FATALITY RATE IS less than .01% so that is all the customers. And they are still here regardless of the FIRST TIME EVER approach to prolong the outbreak.
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Sweden sees coronavirus cases drop, after controversially avoiding lockdowns
While coronavirus cases increase in Europe, Sweden continues a downward trend after a much-debated approach kept large parts of society open.
www.foxnews.com
The part of your logic that I disagree with is the notion that the virus will come to enough dead ends that it will die out quickly if left unhindered. Unless all possible hosts, human and animal, die, it will persist. There will always be naive potential hosts being born. Weighing the costs of the medical treatments, the deaths, a potential invalid population, is complicated.
Different countries are trying different strategies. Sweden comes the closest to your idea, partly with the hope of saving the economy, and it looked for the first month or so that their strategy was working. However then even with mortality exceeding that of their neighboring countries, their economy also suffered tremendous losses even though not shut down. It remains to be seen how it will turn out.
Sweden's controversial anti-lockdown strategy resulted in a high death toll and no real economic gain, data shows
"They literally gained nothing," an economist told The New York Times. "It's a self-inflicted wound, and they have no economic gains."
www.businessinsider.com
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Hey, wait a minute. Is this the same Sweden as the one in Post #1897?The part of your logic that I disagree with is the notion that the virus will come to enough dead ends that it will die out quickly if left unhindered. Unless all possible hosts, human and animal, die, it will persist. There will always be naive potential hosts being born. Weighing the costs of the medical treatments, the deaths, a potential invalid population, is complicated.
Different countries are trying different strategies. Sweden comes the closest to your idea, partly with the hope of saving the economy, and it looked for the first month or so that their strategy was working. However then even with mortality exceeding that of their neighboring countries, their economy also suffered tremendous losses even though not shut down. It remains to be seen how it will turn out.
Sweden's controversial anti-lockdown strategy resulted in a high death toll and no real economic gain, data shows
"They literally gained nothing," an economist told The New York Times. "It's a self-inflicted wound, and they have no economic gains."
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