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How can one know ? Contact tracing?
They relaxed the restrictions for claiming under workmans comp for medical workers working with covid patients 😉😉😉 At least here in Arkansas. My wife's boss would just file the claim under workmans comp and push it through. Now if they didn't have any covid patients, then you would have to use your vacation time.

In tornado's wife's case, she would have been an automatic approval for workmans comp here do to the amount of cases in the facility.
 
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It's really scary the level of ignorance exhibited by some. This country USSRA, has been seriously damaged by those that are either ignorant or feeding a political agenda. And unfortunately there's the "minions" who will walk in lock step to the medias CONSTANT airing of false information to further the agenda. If I happen to need a product that can't be purchased on the Interweb, I'll punish those retailers that force this Draconian mask wearing farce upon the public by withholding my money(s) from them. MASKS DON'T WORK, especially the homemade variety.
This measure has been foisted upon the public as a means of PROLONGING the illness, suffering, and death; ALL IN THE NAME OF LEFT WING POLICIES.
 

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" How could such a stupid thing destroy humanity? "
Hey Sparky, I see what you did there. I was wondering if anyone would recognize those lyrics. Thanks for the laugh, desperately needed these days.
 
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They relaxed the restrictions for claiming under workmans comp for medical workers working with covid patients 😉😉😉 At least here in Arkansas. My wife's boss would just file the claim under workmans comp and push it through. Now if they didn't have any covid patients, then you would have to use your vacation time.

In tornado's wife's case, she would have been an automatic approval for workmans comp here do to the amount of cases in the facility.
Oh, So a social political explanation, not a medical scientific determination.

Figures.

Socialism wins over self determination in these time.

Sad.
 
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Oh, So a social political explanation, not a medical scientific determination.

Figures.

Socialism wins over self determination in these time.

Sad.
It's not socialism. It's actually filing an insurance claim. Those are to separate entities entirely.

They are being taken care of by there employer for treating covid patients. It's no different then recieving the treatments and precautionary meds after coming in contact with blood from an HIV patient. Or collecting workmans comp because a patient spit in your face and they had some funky bug that you caught. That's the employers responsibility to take care of the employee and treatment since they caught it while doing their job.

Doctors and nurses come in contact with weird crap all the time. If it's a direct outcome and consequence from the job they are doing, then workmans comp and the employer should cover it.

It's a pretty safe bet that if a doctor or nurse is treating covid patients all day, and then oh hey wait!!!!! They themselves got covid. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out where they caught it from. 🤔🤔🤔🤔

Contact tracing: Well let's see now. Patients 1 thru 10 on the covid ward which I treat have covid.

If a doctor or nurse contract covid in the course of treating patients with covid, then that falls under a workmans comp claim. Which as I stated is an insurance claim.
 
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MODERATING THIS THREAD IS OFF THE RAILS!

I don't have the time to figure out who said what to who and when...
So this goes to everyone,
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It's not socialism. It's actually filing an insurance claim. Those are to separate entities entirely.

They are being taken care of by there employer for treating covid patients. It's no different then recieving the treatments and precautionary meds after coming in contact with blood from an HIV patient. Or collecting workmans comp because a patient spit in your face and they had some funky bug that you caught. That's the employers responsibility to take care of the employee and treatment since they caught it while doing their job.

Doctors and nurses come in contact with weird crap all the time. If it's a direct outcome and consequence from the job they are doing, then workmans comp and the employer should cover it.

It's a pretty safe bet that if a doctor or nurse is treating covid patients all day, and then oh hey wait!!!!! They themselves got covid. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out where they caught it from. 🤔🤔🤔🤔

Contact tracing: Well let's see now. Patients 1 thru 10 on the covid ward which I treat have covid.

If a doctor or nurse contract covid in the course of treating patients with covid, then that falls under a workmans comp claim. Which as I stated is an insurance claim.

But like an unwanted pregnancy You don't really know.

An Insurance claim IS socialism. Tried and true. The individual suffers at the will of the many....

All for one, one for all.
 

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An Insurance claim IS socialism. Tried and true. The individual suffers at the will of the many....

All for one, one for all.
The employer can't prove that the medical professional didn't catch it in the facility either. Especially since they have had multiple close contacts with covid in the facility.

Your contact tracing will look this.

Patient 1: 10 contacts per day, 4 treatments were in your face. Over a two week period, that's 140 possible close contacts with covid.

Patient 2: 5 contacts per day, 70 contacts in a 12 week period.

And so on. It would be pretty ridiculous to think that the employee picked it up from a gas pump.

So besides the obvious that the medical professional contracted covid.

You mind expanding on your above statement quoted above for us mear mortals?.

Excluding the obvious. How is that individual employee suffering because their employer is taking care of them?
 
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They relaxed the restrictions for claiming under workmans comp for medical workers working with covid patients 😉😉😉 At least here in Arkansas. My wife's boss would just file the claim under workmans comp and push it through. Now if they didn't have any covid patients, then you would have to use your vacation time.

In tornado's wife's case, she would have been an automatic approval for workmans comp here do to the amount of cases in the facility.

We got a packet in the mail yesterday addressed to my wife. I asked her what it was. I wasn't aware but apparently once you test positive the company is automatically filling out the workman's comp paperwork and mailing it to the employee so they can file it. Its a nice courtesy I suppose. My wife said though that she has several colleagues who filed the paperwork and all of them had been denied. She says they were denied because "they couldn't prove they actually got sick at work". My wife only knows a handful who actually filed the papers and got the denial so it may be different for others. We don't intend to even file the papers. She will miss 2 weeks of work, which will be a loss of a good chunk of money at her salary, but, thankfully, we are blessed. We aren't hurting to pay bills or anything. I've always been a super strong advocate of saving and putting back, so we are in good shape there. She will get to log a few hours that she has worked from home on her laptop. She will just go back to work and we will go forward. Its not worth it in our case to even deal with the headache of filing papers and dealing with it all. We are of the mind if we don't need help, we don't ask for help, so we will leave that for those who are really struggling right now.
 
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But like an unwanted pregnancy You don't really know.

An Insurance claim IS socialism. Tried and true. The individual suffers at the will of the many....

All for one, one for all.
Going off topic a tad here but thats kind of how I have always felt with insurance. Recently when I re-roofed my house, I had many people tell me to call my insurance company that they will likely pay a good chunk of the cost. I said why would they do that, the shingles are just wore out from age. They said well you can just claim weather damage. Some even told me that if you would go up there and rip a few shingles off, that they have seen insurance companies buy folks an entirely new roof. I thought it sounded ludicrous and incredibly dishonest. Then more and more people told me the same. My mom then told me she knew of several people who had gotten partial or full roof paid for. She said I should always start with the insurance company she said youre going to be surprised they will pay something for it. When it was all said and done I never did call the insurance company. Im paying the full price for the roof. I couldnt bring myself to call them. It felt wrong to me, and I'm such a strong individualist I couldn't bring myself to go begging for a handout. The other day on the phone my mom said her best friend at work was getting a new roof and asked who I had used again, as she couldnt remember. She then tells me "yea and she is getting the full thing paid for because she contacted insurance....You should have called your insurance company.. Maybe I should have, but It never felt right to me, so Ill pay for my own roof on my house.

If I had actual damage to the roof I could understand calling insurance. My roof had no storm or wind damage - it was just old and time to replace it......
 
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I just had a roof replaced on my house and I'm glad I had the Insurance to pay the cost (►$11,000). I purchased the Insurance on the house as an investment. BTW, the Insurance company sent their adjuster and we went totally by his figures.
We had a high wind storm which blew off several shingles and I was looking for those to be replaced. Adjuster walked the entire roof and said it needed replacing because of prior Hail damage.
 

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I need an understanding how, "An Insurance claim IS socialism".

I am not aware of any insurance company that doesn't have the intent to make a profit. They have actuary tables that tell them how much everything cost and how long it last. The purchaser knows this and pays a fee because they do not wish to be responsible for the possible total loss for any item. Payments are often reduced when the purchaser agrees to pay a predetermined about of any damages covered by the ins. company, often called a "deductible".

A person pays a fee and later makes a claim to what was insured and damaged, and gets the agreed upon amount to help cover damages....

How is that socialism? If the poster believes this, I take it he has no insurance for any material item he owns or is in the process of purchasing. Also, no insurance to cover a law suit initiated by anyone wanting to in our society today.
 
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I'm not following along with it either. Don't view insurance as socialism at all. I view it as compensation for loss.
 

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AND then there's things like this:

WWSB TampaConcerns arise as some receive positive COVID-19 results but never got tested
2 days ago


SARASOTA, Fla. (WWSB) - Coronavirus continues to spread quickly across the state. Plus, now, on the Suncoast, although testing has been made more available, many say there are some problems in really getting a handle on how much the virus is in our community.
Concerns Over COVID-19 Test Results
© Provided by WWSB Tampa Concerns Over COVID-19 Test Results
It has nothing to do with being able to get tested, but instead the results. The quickest turnaround is about 48 hours, and the majority of the time, it can take about a week of finding out if you’re infected our not. However, the most recent issue is getting back results that aren’t even yours.

“I got a call asking for me, and they told me that I had tested positive. I was like, ‘Positive for what?” Then, the lady said for COVID, and I said, ‘That’s impossible. I never got tested, Ma’am,’” Mindy Clark said.
Clark had gone to the drive thru testing sight at Manatee Rural Health, but before she was able to get swabbed, she left the line because she realized it was for people with symptoms only.
“I told them they needed to take this off my record, and they said I had to prove it to them that I wasn’t positive,” Clark continued.
She tested negative just two days later, and also tested negative for the antibodies. Plus, according to many of our viewers, this hasn’t only happened to her.
Clark says if she and many others have been incorrectly identified as positive in the state’s system so easily, how accurate are the numbers that are released daily?
 

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