If the shaft moves in the case the pinion bearings are shot. If that's the case (no pun intended) you'll need to overhaul the differential. Have you checked the front diff lube level to see if it is low?
L4150 Repair Restore
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This reminds me of all the stuff I found when going thru my L35 and the song by the Fixx.
Man that axle was heavy!
Keep going - it's worth fixing...
This reminds me of all the stuff I found when going thru my L35 and the song by the Fixx.
Man that axle was heavy!
Keep going - it's worth fixing...
Good morning, MM. I haven’t done that yet. Greasing all the points, and spill and fills were the final items on my list. I’ll pop the fill plug today tho and check it out. And also check the axle movement.
Good morning Nick. It’s True! Hopefully this is one of the final things for now. Would like to start disc’ing.
This tractor and my wife both keep adding to the honey-do list.
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I just wanted to chime back in to say how nice it is to see you (and other posters) still interested in this L4150's return to a full life. I think you and this machine have become serious friends. Someday you may adopt another project but the thoroughness you've brought to this one is something everybody appreciates - especially as the world seems to move toward a throw-away culture.
Years ago, my first tractor - an 8N - was replaced by a Kubota 345DT and I was hooked on Orange. The L345 was great for many things but for pulling an orchard sprayer the L4150 had better power and mass. One day I saw one for sale and bought it on the spot. It was the perfect tractor, gobs of power, sure-footed pulling a load, everything always worked, no oil leaks ever.
This machine is definitely worth the fine job you're doing. Best luck - great project . I just skimmed through the whole thread - thanks for all of it. Dick B.
Years ago, my first tractor - an 8N - was replaced by a Kubota 345DT and I was hooked on Orange. The L345 was great for many things but for pulling an orchard sprayer the L4150 had better power and mass. One day I saw one for sale and bought it on the spot. It was the perfect tractor, gobs of power, sure-footed pulling a load, everything always worked, no oil leaks ever.
This machine is definitely worth the fine job you're doing. Best luck - great project . I just skimmed through the whole thread - thanks for all of it. Dick B.
Thank you for the kind words, Dick. And you’re right, so many folks have jumped in and invested themselves in my project here. I’m beyond grateful.
The boss had some honey do’s for me this morning assembling and filling some garden beds.
Finally made it over to the tractor. Zero movement on the shaft, at the front or back. It does move front to back slightly, in those couplers, but that seems to be intended. As those snap rings keep it from traveling too far and falling out of the couplers at each end.
That’s a relief.
Looking at the 6 “bolts” on the axle and support, they are actually studs, which tells me the intention is to lower the frame down onto the front axle and support, then tighten it up with the nuts.
so I’m back to getting the front end supported, pulling the Front axle then sliding the axle support off the diff collar, and having the seal pressed out. And removing the rear FWD housing from the trans and having that seal replaced as well. Unless those seals install from the outside, but that’s not what I’m seeing from the diagram. Will spend a little more time with the Wsm on this one.
The tie rod ends look like they could use replacing too, so might as well knock that out at the same time.
The front axle oil is low, but there was some on the stick. I’ll drain and measure how much was in there.
Thanks Tom. I think she found them at epicgardening.com. The brand is “Birdies”. They are a little proud of them, but they last. The left 4 have been out there for 5 years and are indistinguishable from the new 4. Heavy gauge galvanized steel that Is then powder coated. And they bolt together in different configurations. Square. Rectangle, etc.
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Similar planters (*82" x 23" x 29" tall) are $349 each on Gardner's Supply website.
Too rich for my blood.
Lowe's has much lower ones (only 17" tall ) on sale for $114.99
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Don't pull the housing on the rear, the seal comes out without pulling the housing off.
$349/per. Holy cow. Too rich for my blood too! These are probably the 17” style.
Ok that’s great! Thanks. Haven’t made it to the manual yet but that’s encouraging. Maybe the front dust seal is the same.
Was a busy day today. First the garden beds, then we got the hamburger hoosegow set up to do some calf work next weekend.
i finally got around to the tractor just a bit ago. I greased all the points, and it took 5 full sticks of red and tacky to get grease squeezing out of them all. Not sure what’s up with the front spindles, they ate a stick and a half each.
Got the front axle oil drained too. Around 2 quarts of the required 6. Makes me wonder if that seal is leaking too. there’s crud on the diff cover so…
Also drained the wheel hubs. About 1.5 quarts each, of the required 3.3.
well that’s about it for tonight’s update. I hope everyone had a great weekend!
i finally got around to the tractor just a bit ago. I greased all the points, and it took 5 full sticks of red and tacky to get grease squeezing out of them all. Not sure what’s up with the front spindles, they ate a stick and a half each.
Got the front axle oil drained too. Around 2 quarts of the required 6. Makes me wonder if that seal is leaking too. there’s crud on the diff cover so…
Also drained the wheel hubs. About 1.5 quarts each, of the required 3.3.
well that’s about it for tonight’s update. I hope everyone had a great weekend!
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The bevel cases (where you were greasing) your just forcing grease into the bevel case, it's not going to hurt anything but don't need to over grease those joints.
The front shaft seals will make all of that mess in the front, there is 2 seals and a O-ring up there that will need to be replaced.
I'm pretty sure you will need to remove Nut 40 to be able to get all the seals out.
I personally would do it with diff cover still on and the axle still in and the wheels on the ground.
If the nut doesn't want to come off with it together, then you'll have to get serious with it and pull it all apart.
The front shaft seals will make all of that mess in the front, there is 2 seals and a O-ring up there that will need to be replaced.
I'm pretty sure you will need to remove Nut 40 to be able to get all the seals out.
I personally would do it with diff cover still on and the axle still in and the wheels on the ground.
If the nut doesn't want to come off with it together, then you'll have to get serious with it and pull it all apart.
GM wolfman. still not totally clear on how the axle support fits in to this repair. Seems like it would be difficult to pull all those seals (axle support seal, 070 seal, 030 seal, and 020 oil seal out of the diff body through the axle support, and reinstall through it also. The axle support thrust washer looks like it blocks access to the diff seal, but it’s not clear from the wsm drawing. No specific procedure in there about the seals.
At this point I‘m thinking I just need to get under there, pull those shaft rings, remove the shaft, couplers, and axle support seal and see what I’m working with.
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Yes in order to get the seal out and back in you will need to drop the axle and then replace the seals.
@North Idaho Wolfman I got all the seals we talked about except Im having trouble sourcing the collar seal "020" (Kubota #35350-43220). I talked to Messicks and the local dealer, and no one is showing it as available. I'm not sure how that interacts with oil seal 070, and if I'd be ok not changing that for now. Curious what your thoughts are on it? Thanks.
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Did you also try Colemans?
They are also a mega dealer like Messick's, though possibly Messick's may have already checked with them.
Hey good evening, Fried. No i had not checked with them directly, but I just did, and they dont show anything with that part number. Thanks for the suggestion!