What did you do to or on your Kubota today?

[6869704x4]

BendPak is a great lift. I am certain that you will get a lifetime of trouble-free use from it. I have had mine for over 20 years and never a problem.

Well, I'm kinda pissed. When did BendPak start being made in China? I guess we'll see how this one does>

 

[leveraddict]

sewer line action today with the U-27. was supposed to be 5 feet deep....well, I used all that the little U-27 had and was definitely down 9.5 feet! Fortunately, the soil was conducive and I dug some fairly deep benches. All in all it went fine.

dig:

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Pipe:

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backfill:

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Tomorrow, we are heading around the corner to this clients dad's place to replace his line as well. I'm told I'll be digging a little over 10 feet plus up at the curb. We have a rented KX080 mule showing up for that one...but I'm bringing the B2650 to assist with the backfill (supposed to be 90 plus degrees). It was hot enough today at about 90 as well.

I think if I get time left at the end of the day, I'll pop over to this job and give it a touch up with the box blade as well.

It was a long 14 hour day and I'm recovering with an ice cold T-N-T as a type this. It's starting to hit now.

Hey Dirty! How about the price of that 4" pvc! Its through the roof!

 

[Kennyd4110]

Well, I'm kinda pissed. When did BendPak start being made in China? I guess we'll see how this one does>

A LONG time ago as far as I know. There are better options, but BP has the marketing down to a science by giving them to all the TV show guys.

Just my opinion, worth what you paid for it.

 

[DustyRusty]

Well, I'm kinda pissed. When did BendPak start being made in China? I guess we'll see how this one does>

Probably sometime in the early 1990s they built a manufacturing plant in China. All of the lifts that I have from them were made in China, however, I don't know what the present situation in China is, since a lot has changed over there. I do know that the facility was run by Americans that were responsible for quality control in China. Like many items coming from China, some are good quality, and others are just plain junk. A lot of our pharmaceuticals are now made in China, and like it or not, China controls many pharmaceutical ingredients today. I don't want to get into the discussion of the politics of China for obvious reasons.

 

[fried1765]

Probably sometime in the early 1990s they built a manufacturing plant in China. All of the lifts that I have from them were made in China, however, I don't know what the present situation in China is, since a lot has changed over there. I do know that the facility was run by Americans that were responsible for quality control in China. Like many items coming from China, some are good quality, and others are just plain junk. A lot of our pharmaceuticals are now made in China, and like it or not, China controls many pharmaceutical ingredients today. I don't want to get into the discussion of the politics of China for obvious reasons.

Companies in China, with US supervision on site, do produce good products.

 

[Fordtech86]

I’m on my 2nd bend pak lift at work… have bent both of the longer rear arms (asymmetrical) on both lifts (10,000 lbs rated) and the biggest thing that goes on them are expeditions/navigators/f150s….

 

[lynnmor]

Companies in China, with US supervision on site, do produce good products.

Trouble is that China is becoming the only producer of products.

 

[dirtydeed]

today's festivities...90+ degrees, 10 feet plus down with rented mule (KX-080 with 30" bucket). These machines are capable of moving quite a bit of dirt. We had one heck of a pile...

I'm not going to provide much detail here as it's pretty much the same story. Homeowner hired a handyman years ago to install a new basement bath and repair the house trap. Ha. Shoddy workmanship and the homeowner had a rain leader from the driveway dump water pretty much on top the the house trap. That's a recipe for disaster. You can see where we extended the rain leader discharge past the trap in the last pic (4" pvc on right side of pic).

dig

Backfill - major assist from B2650 and box blade (not pictured, unfortunately). It was too hot, I was too tired that I just forgot to get a decent pic with the tractor...but it really did take the cleanup from a total mess to tolerable.

Done. Well I had to call it done.

 

[DustyRusty]

today's festivities...90+ degrees, 10 feet plus down with rented mule (KX-080 with 30" bucket). These machines are capable of moving quite a bit of dirt. We had one heck of a pile...

I'm not going to provide much detail here as it's pretty much the same story. Homeowner hired a handyman years ago to install a new basement bath and repair the house trap. Ha. Shoddy workmanship and the homeowner had a rain leader from the driveway dump water pretty much on top the the house trap. That's a recipe for disaster. You can see where we extended the rain leader discharge past the trap in the last pic (4" pvc on right side of pic).

dig
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Backfill - major assist from B2650 and box blade (not pictured, unfortunately). It was too hot, I was too tired that I just forgot to get a decent pic with the tractor...but it really did take the cleanup from a total mess to tolerable.

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Done. Well I had to call it done.

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What does a job like this cost the homeowner?

 

[Flintknapper]

today's festivities...90+ degrees, 10 feet plus down with rented mule (KX-080 with 30" bucket). These machines are capable of moving quite a bit of dirt. We had one heck of a pile...

I'm not going to provide much detail here as it's pretty much the same story. Homeowner hired a handyman years ago to install a new basement bath and repair the house trap. Ha. Shoddy workmanship and the homeowner had a rain leader from the driveway dump water pretty much on top the the house trap. That's a recipe for disaster. You can see where we extended the rain leader discharge past the trap in the last pic (4" pvc on right side of pic).

dig
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Backfill - major assist from B2650 and box blade (not pictured, unfortunately). It was too hot, I was too tired that I just forgot to get a decent pic with the tractor...but it really did take the cleanup from a total mess to tolerable.



Done. Well I had to call it done.

Great job as usual. I've noticed that the bulk of your work involves digging to depths of about 6'

Is that because of some 'code' that the plumbing is that deep? (below frost line or something)? Everything is much closer to the surface where I live.

 

[fried1765]

Great job as usual. I've noticed that the bulk of your work involves digging to depths of about 6'

Is that because of some 'code' that the plumbing is that deep? (below frost line or something)? Everything is much closer to the surface where I live.

Does the ground ever really freeze in East Texas?
Some parts of the USA require that piping be lower than 6'.
Under a driven over area, must be even deeper.
Vehicular traffic drives frost down!

 

[dirtydeed]

What does a job like this cost the homeowner?

This was a little over 8K. Wednesday was almost 10K (2-day job) with one day of inside work for two plumbers as well. Estimators are good at trying to get the work covered by home owners insurance but that doesn't always work.

 

[dirtydeed]

Great job as usual. I've noticed that the bulk of your work involves digging to depths of about 6'

Is that because of some 'code' that the plumbing is that deep? (below frost line or something)? Everything is much closer to the surface where I live.

No, it's really the luck of the draw. Most of the sewer line jobs are deeper because they are connected to a municipal sewer system. It really depends on where the line exits the dwelling (floor or wall). The difference here is that just about everyone here has a basement unlike in the south. There are some repairs need for conventional septic systems, but that isn't the norm.

Water service (municipal supply) require a 3 foot minimal depth (frost).

 

[Flintknapper]

Does the ground ever really freeze in East Texas?

On occasion.....but I can't imagine it is much more than 6" at most.

BUT.....more often, it is something like this:

 

[pokey1416]

Picked up a ssqa receiver to move my trailer around alongside my house without the pain of having to use my truck. I can back it in with a little effort but it'll be so much easier with a small tractor. View attachment 108045

Ok now weld a QH on it and you can move 3PH attachments easily. I had my fab shop add about 2" at the bottom so I have longer motion range. There are plenty of threads on this here on OTT.

I go backwards and rake leaves with the 3PH harrow.

 

[Old_Paint]

sewer line action today with the U-27. was supposed to be 5 feet deep....well, I used all that the little U-27 had and was definitely down 9.5 feet! Fortunately, the soil was conducive and I dug some fairly deep benches. All in all it went fine.

dig:

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Pipe:

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backfill:

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Tomorrow, we are heading around the corner to this clients dad's place to replace his line as well. I'm told I'll be digging a little over 10 feet plus up at the curb. We have a rented KX080 mule showing up for that one...but I'm bringing the B2650 to assist with the backfill (supposed to be 90 plus degrees). It was hot enough today at about 90 as well.

I think if I get time left at the end of the day, I'll pop over to this job and give it a touch up with the box blade as well.

It was a long 14 hour day and I'm recovering with an ice cold T-N-T as a type this. It's starting to hit now.

I'm gonna plead ignorance here and ask why three standpipes at the house. Go easy on me, because that's just not something I see done around here. I've noticed that on all your work. Is that for two separate cleanouts that will allow inserting a snake in both directions, plus some kind of vent in between? I would think the LAST thing you'd want that close to the house is a vent. Why 3, and not just 2? Is that something that is required by code in your area? Around here, you're lucky to see ONE clean-out outside near the house, and luckier still if it isn't buried. There's usually one inside where the line comes out of the house, which is apparently good enough for the codes of the time when this house was built. Is that something of your own design that gets repeat customers/work? A side view of the whole thing would be interesting to see. Is that a series of Y-T-Y fittings? I can grasp why two Y's (directing a cleanout snake), but not sure what the T in the middle would be for.

 

[dirtydeed]

I'm gonna plead ignorance here and ask why three standpipes at the house. Go easy on me, because that's just not something I see done around here. I've noticed that on all your work. Is that for two separate cleanouts that will allow inserting a snake in both directions, plus some kind of vent in between? I would think the LAST thing you'd want that close to the house is a vent. Why 3, and not just 2? Is that something that is required by code in your area? Around here, you're lucky to see ONE clean-out outside near the house, and luckier still if it isn't buried. There's usually one inside where the line comes out of the house, which is apparently good enough for the codes of the time when this house was built. Is that something of your own design that gets repeat customers/work? A side view of the whole thing would be interesting to see. Is that a series of Y-T-Y fittings? I can grasp why two Y's (directing a cleanout snake), but not sure what the T in the middle would be for.

It's code. This allows for clean out to be accessed from outside the home. The riser closest to the wall is the vent. The vent pipe is supposed to be at least 12" higher than the cleanouts. You can see the last cleanout in this case is a routing wye (not a 2 way cleanout). Also, the trap is not the same on both sides, inlet side has a bit more restriction than the outlet side (hard in - easy out).

edit: and no "Tees" ever in the trap.

side view:

Then, we do add some 2 way cleanouts occasionally down the line after a significant change in direction.

You're probably used to seeing the 3" cast iron 2-hole traps. Those are a real pita to get a snake thru.

here's a pic of the one we replaced yesterday...it was a handy man special...they used Tees, unreinforced fernco bands, and the lack of stone bedding was the death nail. The left side was the inlet, right side outlet. You can see how it sunk on the right side because their was no stone base (and there was a rain leader draining into the whole area).

 

[Old_Paint]

It's code. This allows for clean out to be accessed from outside the home. The riser closest to the wall is the vent. The vent pipe is supposed to be at least 12" higher than the cleanouts. You can see the last cleanout in this case is a routing wye (not a 2 way cleanout). Also, the trap is not the same on both sides, inlet side has a bit more restriction than the outlet side (hard in - easy out).

edit: and no "Tees" ever in the trap.

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side view:

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Then, we do add some 2 way cleanouts occasionally down the line after a significant change in direction.

You're probably used to seeing the 3" cast iron 2-hole traps. Those are a real pita to get a snake thru.

here's a pic of the one we replaced yesterday...it was a handy man special...they used Tees, unreinforced fernco bands, and the lack of stone bedding was the death nail. The left side was the inlet, right side outlet. You can see how it sunk on the right side because their was no stone base (and there was a rain leader draining into the whole area).

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The trap is what I couldn’t see. Normally in this part of the world, the vent ties into the subfloor header and goes out through the roof. No trap (that I know about). Probably is on no-basement houses. Code might be considerably different for new construction, though Inspection here is rolling a 3” ball in the header end and waiting for it to hit the main sewer, or even something simpler if you have the right color pocket change. The inspector just wanted to see the plumbing with the water turned on when I built my shop.

 

[fried1765]

It's code. This allows for clean out to be accessed from outside the home. The riser closest to the wall is the vent. The vent pipe is supposed to be at least 12" higher than the cleanouts. You can see the last cleanout in this case is a routing wye (not a 2 way cleanout). Also, the trap is not the same on both sides, inlet side has a bit more restriction than the outlet side (hard in - easy out).

edit: and no "Tees" ever in the trap.

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side view:

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Then, we do add some 2 way cleanouts occasionally down the line after a significant change in direction.

You're probably used to seeing the 3" cast iron 2-hole traps. Those are a real pita to get a snake thru.

here's a pic of the one we replaced yesterday...it was a handy man special...they used Tees, unreinforced fernco bands, and the lack of stone bedding was the death nail. The left side was the inlet, right side outlet. You can see how it sunk on the right side because their was no stone base (and there was a rain leader draining into the whole area).

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Different requirements for different soil conditions.
No clay/mud here.....just pure sand.
No stone base required.
Compacted sand does not settle.

No trap here either, just basement T-Y cleanout, and vented through roof,.... per Old_Paint above.
New rules may be different?

 

[matt-m]

A real *hayday* for the pasture critters