Thinking about going from B2601 to L series

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I have a number of trailers but my tractor hauler is a 22ft hydraulic tilt trailer with remote control, but I need a bigger trailer. I know a gooseneck trailer with a 25ft + 3ft or more deck is in my future so that I can haul the M6060 with the RC3712 folding cutter attached. I need 23ft to 24ft of deck space for that and I don't think it's possible to get away from ramps with trailers of that size.
You might be right, maybe have to go up to a 26 footer? Have you really looked, or just have not seen any locally? I would think that you can get one built if you just have to have that size. :unsure:
 

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You might be right, maybe have to go up to a 26 footer? Have you really looked, or just have not seen any locally? I would think that you can get one built if you just have to have that size. :unsure:
I don't want to take this thread off into the weeds but choosing a trailer can be quite the challenge, particularly if you don't want to outgrow the trailer.

I've been looking at bigger trailers for quite a few months, and specifically trailers with ramps because the rear axles are closer to the end of the trailer compared to hydraulic tilt trailers. The RC3712 is heavy and the weight sits on the rear set of wheels so the load center is much further back compared to typical loads.
 

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Big Tex has a 26' tiltbed ...

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Interesting that you posted this since there's a 2022 Big Tex gooseneck trailer not too far from me that could work and it's one that I've been looking at. The A dimension is 25ft with a 5ft folding flat ramp system. My biggest concern is the GVWR at around 15k which would give about 11k of capacity, so one with 10k axles would be a better choice I think. Dimensionally it's just about perfect though, and the load would be ideally positioned relative to the axles.


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Interesting that you posted this since there's a 2022 Big Tex gooseneck trailer not too far from me that could work and it's one that I've been looking at. The A dimension is 25ft with a 5ft folding flat ramp system. My biggest concern is the GVWR at around 15k which would give about 11k of capacity, so one with 10k axles would be a better choice I think. Dimensionally it's just about perfect though, and the load would be ideally positioned relative to the axles.


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If it were me I wouldn't buy that trailer with the 7K axles I had one years ago and it seemed we were always to heavy on that trailer. Finally put heavy 17.5 tires and wheels and that helped. I even added a third 7 K axle to trailer. The trailer I had was a 30 Ft with a 5 FT tail with mega ramps. Liked the ramps not the trailer. Sold it and got a dual wheel with 12K axles and hyd disc brakes and mega ramps . That was a trailer.
 
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If it were me I wouldn't buy that trailer with the 7K axles I had one years ago and it seemed we were always to heavy on that trailer. Finally put heavy 17.5 tires and wheels and that helped. I even added a third 7 K axle to trailer. The trailer I had was a 30 Ft with a 5 FT tail with mega ramps. Liked the ramps not the trailer. Sold it and got a dual wheel with 12K axles and hyd disc brakes and mega ramps . That was a trailer.
I had thought about adding a third axle to my 22ft hydraulic ramp trailer to get an axle closer to the end of the load but I'm not going down that path.

We should have a pinned thread all about trailers that educates re the many complexities of choosing and using a trailer. One of the challenges we face with tractors and attached implements is the lack of options in positioning the load. The closer the trailer length is to the load length the fewer the options. I realize that the M6060 and RC3712 isn't the typical load for most, and if I could figure out how to get the RC3712 on/off the trailer without it being connected to the tractor this would all be academic. I despise pulling a trailer when the load distribution isn't optimal.

So to the OP, choose wisely when buying a trailer. It's easy to end up with something that you outgrow sooner than expected, or simply isn't enjoyable to load up and pull.
 
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Hi everyone. I’m reviving this thread now that I have officially moved to the new farm full-time. I visited local Kubota dealer and asked him to run quotes for me on a Grand L4060 open-station a Grand L4060 cab and an MX5400 open-station. All of them would have a loader and BH (you can’t get a BH on the MX cab, and the BH is a dealbreaker for me). They told me the 4060 is being replaced by the new 70 series, so it might be hard to find. They were really pushing the MX (they had one in stock). I just want to weigh all the options/costs. I’m trying to do a package deal with an RTV1100 (I think that’s what it’s called). A little 2-seat UTV that has a cab and a diesel engine. I’ll let you know what kind of numbers they throw at me.

I did a quick look on Machinery Pete’s site and found several Grand L4060s, but they were all out in the Midwest/West
 
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Hi everyone. I’m reviving this thread now that I have officially moved to the new farm full-time. I visited local Kubota dealer and asked him to run quotes for me on a Grand L4060 open-station a Grand L4060 cab and an MX5400 open-station. All of them would have a loader and BH (you can’t get a BH on the MX cab, and the BH is a dealbreaker for me). They told me the 4060 is being replaced by the new 70 series, so it might be hard to find. They were really pushing the MX (they had one in stock). I just want to weigh all the options/costs. I’m trying to do a package deal with an RTV1100 (I think that’s what it’s called). A little 2-seat UTV that has a cab and a diesel engine. I’ll let you know what kind of numbers they throw at me.

I did a quick look on Machinery Pete’s site and found several Grand L4060s, but they were all out in the Midwest/West
Didn't know they had a new 70 series out.....

I went from a standard L to the grand L a few years ago. No regrets. Great tractor! Kept the 3301 around a while. Didn't have much of a need to run both plus my youngin was tearing more stuff up around the farm than I could handle.

Fortunately, a good neighbor wanted it more than I did.

I think you get more tractor with the MX for the money.

You probably just need to decide how much you want a cab and that may narrow it down for you. For me down here, a cab is a must. Its just too dang hot majority of the year.

And I used to frequent NJ often, y'all get some pretty good heat up that way too!
 
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Don’t let the dealer talk you into buying what they have on the lot, just because that’s what they have on their lot, unless it’s really what you want. There is plenty of other dealers out there who will meet your needs.
 
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I'd let the dealer talk me into an MX. If the way he talked me into it was with a nice discount. :) An MX is a lot of tractor. The Grand L has a nicer transmission.
 
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Didn't know they had a new 70 series out.....

I went from a standard L to the grand L a few years ago. No regrets. Great tractor! Kept the 3301 around a while. Didn't have much of a need to run both plus my youngin was tearing more stuff up around the farm than I could handle.

Fortunately, a good neighbor wanted it more than I did.

I think you get more tractor with the MX for the money.

You probably just need to decide how much you want a cab and that may narrow it down for you. For me down here, a cab is a must. Its just too dang hot majority of the year.

And I used to frequent NJ often, y'all get some pretty good heat up that way too!
I am definitely leaning towards a cab tractor. Also, I’m starting g to wonder if I should look at the bigger Grand L series (5060 or 6060). My reason for this is that they have more PTO hp and I do see a lot of stump grinding in my future. I have about 60 stumps right now from the ash tree blight, and probably another 50 ash trees that need to come down. I was looking at the Woodland Mills stump grinder and I think the L4060 is a couple of PTO hp shy of their minimum recommendation. The MX5400 has the PTO hp, but as I mentioned before, can’t have a cab with a backhoe.
 
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I would get your cab tractor. A large lX, or MX with cab and forget about the BH. With my next suggestion you won't need high tractor PTO HP...

Postpone the RTV 1100 and instead, get a package deal on the tractor And a mini ex. A mini will run a stump grinder like a champ and it will run circles (literally) around a BH.

Side by sides are everywhere and cheap. Go get a Honda Talon... or Polaris Turbo or....

Put a little Whoo-Hoo in your SXS.

Edit: K's UTVs are slow miniature truck - pigs. And expensive.
 
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I am definitely leaning towards a cab tractor. Also, I’m starting g to wonder if I should look at the bigger Grand L series (5060 or 6060). My reason for this is that they have more PTO hp and I do see a lot of stump grinding in my future. I have about 60 stumps right now from the ash tree blight, and probably another 50 ash trees that need to come down. I was looking at the Woodland Mills stump grinder and I think the L4060 is a couple of PTO hp shy of their minimum recommendation. The MX5400 has the PTO hp, but as I mentioned before, can’t have a cab with a backhoe.
I've owned four Kubota tractors including the two I currently have in addition to a BX25 and MX6000HST and don't miss the open station models one bit. Having owned the M6060 and MX6000 for close to 3-1/2 years and 4 years respectively, the BX25 for five years and the MX6000HST for a little over year, I'd never buy another open station tractor again, other than a project hobby tractor that would see little use.

An L6060 with cab would be a great tractor that most would never outgrow, and with a backhoe it would be a formidable choice. Of my two, the M6060 is undoubtedly the more capable tractor and the one I'd part with last, but the MX6000 is also a very good tractor that shines at so many tasks. I'm not ready for boating season to be over just yet, but I'm looking forward to being back in the MX and moving snow in a few months.

I used the "build my Kubota" tool yesterday and the MX6000HSTC sure has gone up a lot in price over the past four years.

Good luck on your choice.
 
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I am definitely leaning towards a cab tractor. Also, I’m starting g to wonder if I should look at the bigger Grand L series (5060 or 6060). My reason for this is that they have more PTO hp and I do see a lot of stump grinding in my future. I have about 60 stumps right now from the ash tree blight, and probably another 50 ash trees that need to come down. I was looking at the Woodland Mills stump grinder and I think the L4060 is a couple of PTO hp shy of their minimum recommendation. The MX5400 has the PTO hp, but as I mentioned before, can’t have a cab with a backhoe.
Yep, definitely something to think about there. Or split the difference like @S-G-R just did and rock that 5460.

Either way, the cab is a total game changer. The comfort, not getting attacked by creatures, not aggravating allergy/sinus issues, etc.....

I'm at the complete bottom of that line up with the 3560.

I'm a light duty user, don't require much lift capacity (although i'd never buy a primary use tractor without a loader). I'm also in an orchard style environment and mine the majority of the time is a glorified lawn mower.
 
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Either way, the cab is a total game changer. The comfort, not getting attacked by creatures, not aggravating allergy/sinus issues, etc.....
^^^^ 100 % ^^^^

Get a cab tractor. It is a Totally different animal.

Rain, snow, sleet, dust, bugs, alergies.... Means nothing.

High outdoor temps or Low outdoor temps.... with AC and heat, those won't matter ever again.
 
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I would get your cab tractor. A large lX, or MX with cab and forget about the BH. With my next suggestion you won't need high tractor PTO HP...

Postpone the RTV 1100 and instead, get a package deal on the tractor And a mini ex. A mini will run a stump grinder like a champ and it will run circles (literally) around a BH.

Side by sides are everywhere and cheap. Go get a Honda Talon... or Polaris Turbo or....

Put a little Whoo-Hoo in your SXS.

Edit: K's UTVs are slow miniature truck - pigs. And expensive.
That’s an interesting proposition, except I have no idea on how to operate a mini-ex (I’m sure I could learn) and also wouldn’t even know where to start the conversation on what size unit I would need. Is there a ‘typical’ size, or is it all dependent on what you plan on doing with it?
 

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That’s an interesting proposition, except I have no idea on how to operate a mini-ex (I’m sure I could learn) and also wouldn’t even know where to start the conversation on what size unit I would need. Is there a ‘typical’ size, or is it all dependent on what you plan on doing with it?
Tell the dealer that you want to run a stump grinder. Give him your property and stump details and he will set you straight.
You will learn the mini ex with a short time and realize it's value in time.

If you have BH experience, once you operate a Mini Ex, you will not want to go back to a BH.
 

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I just had a quick call with the dealer. Based on what I want to do, he thought the KX-033 or KX-040 would be the right size. Then he told me the prices. Wow. 😮 He then said they rent those out by the day/week/month and thought I may want to just go that route. The dealer is only 15 min from me (and they deliver). He also said that if I was going to forgo the backhoe, the MX6000 cab would be a good machine for me.