Picked it up yesterday. The bucket seemed to be level on the concrete pad at dealer. Tech said he readjusted the loader saddles, and to get the levelness of bucket within spec that he put 20lbs air in right tire and 17lbs in left tire. He was able to adjust the fender some so it doesn't rub on the right side seat base. Lastly, he shimmed the hydraulic pressure up to 1900psi( it was only around 1690psi when I took it in), he said it should break in to the 1800psi range where it should be. So we'll see how it is... I also ordered some wheel spacers on ebay . I also dropped my set of R4's off at dealer when I picked tractor up, they are giving me credit toward a set of R14t tires. They had to order them, so we'll see how long it takes to get them....
New BX2380 bucket meets ground unevenly....
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North Idaho Wolfman
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What tires are on it now.
Can you give me pictures of all around?
Put the level on the top of the ROPS and on top of the fenders cross ways, and on the top back of the bucket, comparing them to each other.
Can you give me pictures of all around?
Put the level on the top of the ROPS and on top of the fenders cross ways, and on the top back of the bucket, comparing them to each other.
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from the top picture, it looks like the loader frame NOT the bucket isn't level.
Is your garage floor 'flat and level' ? Mine isn't ! But the pad outside is.
Are both front tires the same make/model ?
Both fronts need the same air pressure !
Are both rear tires the same make/model ?
Both rears need the same air pressure !
As NIW says, you need a LOT of measurements,so make a drawing and write them down.
Get someone else to ALSO do it, compare the numbers.
You posted a picture with the SSQA frame pointing down and IT wasn't level, so take the bucket off and make a few more measurements !
Maybe post 'overall' pix from all sides. perhaps someone with eagle eyes will SEE what's wrong ?
BTW I KNOW 1/2 PSI difference in the rears makes my BX23S 'lean' ,really noticeable at the sunshade.
Is your garage floor 'flat and level' ? Mine isn't ! But the pad outside is.
Are both front tires the same make/model ?
Both fronts need the same air pressure !
Are both rear tires the same make/model ?
Both rears need the same air pressure !
As NIW says, you need a LOT of measurements,so make a drawing and write them down.
Get someone else to ALSO do it, compare the numbers.
You posted a picture with the SSQA frame pointing down and IT wasn't level, so take the bucket off and make a few more measurements !
Maybe post 'overall' pix from all sides. perhaps someone with eagle eyes will SEE what's wrong ?
BTW I KNOW 1/2 PSI difference in the rears makes my BX23S 'lean' ,really noticeable at the sunshade.
There’s some pics on 2nd page of this thread with bucket off. The ssqa plate has looked bent back slightly on left side. When I pointed it out to tech at dealer last June when it was there, he pretty much dismissed it. Right now the R14T tires are on it. I put 24psi all way around. I put the level across my garage floor, looks good to me. I need to get one of those tape measures that people who sew clothes use, so I can measure circumference of tires. Set of R4 tires that originally came on tractor were way off, 2 different years IIRC for the 2 rears. Dealer adjusted to the turf tires in June, their fix was 17 psi in right and 20 psi in left tire….first pic is rops bar, 2nd is top of bucket, 3rd is across loader arms…
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well your floor's level, loader frame isn't ( bubble high on the driver's side )
re ssqa on 2nd page... yes, something is wrong there ! it should be FLAT or parallel to the floor
really need to measure ..here ,there ,everywhere to see what's wrong
simple high school math will give you circumference after you measure the diameter (height) of tire...
re ssqa on 2nd page... yes, something is wrong there ! it should be FLAT or parallel to the floor
really need to measure ..here ,there ,everywhere to see what's wrong
simple high school math will give you circumference after you measure the diameter (height) of tire...
I would still say at this point to not focus so much on tire circumference, air pressure equal, etc. but instead just focus on getting the rear axle level....parellel with the floor. See post #26. If your floor is flat and all on the same plane (as in a sheet of glass) then getting the rear axle parellel (level) to the floor is the starting point for all the other measurements.
Leveling the rear axle using the center point of each side to the floor will then get the main frame of the tractor parallel to the floor.
Even identical tires with identical air pressure can be different due to defects, different dates of manufacture, etc. etc. Use the tires air pressure to accomplish leveling by either adding or subtracting air. But focus on getting the axle height equal above the floor on each side..... Not the tire diameter or circumference until you've made your other measurements to determine where the issues lie. Whether that issue is with the loader mounts, loader frame, QA, bucket, or the tires.
Leveling the rear axle using the center point of each side to the floor will then get the main frame of the tractor parallel to the floor.
Even identical tires with identical air pressure can be different due to defects, different dates of manufacture, etc. etc. Use the tires air pressure to accomplish leveling by either adding or subtracting air. But focus on getting the axle height equal above the floor on each side..... Not the tire diameter or circumference until you've made your other measurements to determine where the issues lie. Whether that issue is with the loader mounts, loader frame, QA, bucket, or the tires.
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Thanks for the pic's they helped a lot!
The issue is not in the tires or the loader arms or loader mount.
It's in either the SSQA attachment on the end of the loader arms, the SSQA plate on the back of the bucket or the bucket it's self.
If you would do a couple more with the bucket off.
Level across the loader arms again and level across the tops of the SSQA attachment plates.
And just a picture of the back of the loader bucket.
Measure from the front of the cutting edge to the front of the back of the bucket, on both sides (right and left).
The issue is not in the tires or the loader arms or loader mount.
It's in either the SSQA attachment on the end of the loader arms, the SSQA plate on the back of the bucket or the bucket it's self.
If you would do a couple more with the bucket off.
Level across the loader arms again and level across the tops of the SSQA attachment plates.
And just a picture of the back of the loader bucket.
Measure from the front of the cutting edge to the front of the back of the bucket, on both sides (right and left).
Straightest thing I could compare ssqa to- my aluminum trailer- first pic is left side, see the gap. Second picture is right side, flush with rail
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Forgot to get picture of rear of bucket while it was off. Measured circumference of all tires, each put at exactly 24psi. Rear tires- right- 81-1/8”, left-81-5/8”. Front tires- right-57-1/4”, left 57-1/8”. I forgot to measure axle to ground distance, do that on next day off on Friday…
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I need a picture of a level on top of the SSQA latch plates and a picture of the level on the loader arms just behind it to compare the two.
Picture of the back of the bucket and measurements from the cutting edge right and left to the front edge of the bucket top. Maybe middle too.
The faces of the latch plates have no bearing on the bucket being level.
Picture of the back of the bucket and measurements from the cutting edge right and left to the front edge of the bucket top. Maybe middle too.
The faces of the latch plates have no bearing on the bucket being level.
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My thinking was that if the left side of ssqa plate wasn’t level with right side, that wouldn’t allow bucket to fully seat into slot. My snow pusher does same thing, not sure if it’s worn any now being I have the poly edge…
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May also put the turf tires back on ( what
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What does that have to do with the actual gap of bucket meeting ground? I'll try another level , but unfortunately it's another Pittsburgh one
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hmm, i've only seen a level in the pix, no tape measure with numbers
35 years ago, I found out that my $$$$ level was NOT level, after an addition was built
since then I check every level anyone hands me to use
35 years ago, I found out that my $$$$ level was NOT level, after an addition was built
since then I check every level anyone hands me to use