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gee, you live ON an ACTIVE volcano, build your house out of WOOD, and then figure you can sue others ???
Poor geographic reference!
Maui's volcano (Haleakala) has not been "ACTIVE" since 1480 - 1600
Wrong island to reference "ACTIVE" volcanic activity!
 

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iirc the roads in / out of Lahina are VERY limited. The main road runs N/S (more or less) and the south route is really the only option. Going north takes you on a wonderful adventurous ride around the northwest corner of the island. There are several areas that 2 cars can't pass. I don't remember seeing any 'wetlands' on Maui. There are plenty on Kauai.
 
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Poor geographic reference!
Maui's volcano (Haleakala) has not been "ACTIVE" since 1480 - 1600
Wrong island to reference "ACTIVE" volcanic activity!
An ACTIVE volcano is any volcano that has had eruption in the past 10,000 years.
 

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Clipped.
I don't remember seeing any 'wetlands' on Maui. There are plenty on Kauai.
Interesting read on Maui wetlands and watersheds.
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I can not see out running a fire that fast and that hot. Sirens or not, the bottle neck to get put was like sands in an hour glass.
 

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Interesting read on Maui wetlands and watersheds.
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I can not see out running a fire that fast and that hot. Sirens or not, the bottle neck to get put was like sands in an hour glass.
It is an interesting read about their watershed areas. There are plenty of streams / waterfalls on the island that I have seen. Never really thought of them as wetlands though. The east and west watershed areas look to be in places tourists (or much of anyone for that matter) don't go .
 

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Joe Biden Has Sent Over $113,000,000,000 to Ukraine, which has a population of about 43,000,000. EQUALING MORE THAN $3,000 PER PERSON! Meanwhile, Joe Biden Has Sent Just $700 Per Person To Maui Fire Victims.
Why are U.S. citizens treated worse than Ukrainian citizens?

 

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I was sent a post stating the fire was started by a direct energy weapon from space. I sent back this:

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I know it shouldn't surprise me, but it amazes me how quickly people will believe anything as long as they read it on the internet.
 
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I was sent a post stating the fire was started by a direct energy weapon from space. I sent back this:

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I know it shouldn't surprise me, but it amazes me how quickly people will believe anything as long as they read it on the internet.
Well I don't know about that but a lot of weird things have happened like...

Oprah Winfrey Has A Luxury Mansion in Maui; It’s Completely Fine
Jeff Bezos Has A Luxury Mansion in Maui; It’s Completely Fine
Lady Gaga Has A Luxury Mansion in Maui; It’s Completely Fine
Bill Gates Has A Luxury Mansion in Maui; It’s Completely Fine
Morgan Freeman Has A Luxury Mansion in Maui; It’s Completely Fine
Will Smith Has A Luxury Mansion in Maui; It’s Completely Fine
Julia Roberts Has A Luxury Mansion in Maui; It’s Completely Fine

How did the fire know to avoid the most expensive mansions??? Oprah, Bezos and other elitist/globalists have already started making offers on prime real estate. I don't know about you but it sure looks nefarious to me and not just a fire that went amuck.
 

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Poor geographic reference!
Maui's volcano (Haleakala) has not been "ACTIVE" since 1480 - 1600
Wrong island to reference "ACTIVE" volcanic activity!
'Technically' if it has erupted in the 10,000 years it is considered 'Active', after that period...then 'dormant' (if expected to erupt again).

There is evidence showing it has erupted (resulting in lava flow) at least 10 times in the last 1,000 years.

IF we take 'active' to mean 'currently' erupting or flowing....then no, but scientifically speaking, it is an active volcano (fully capable of...and expected to erupt again).
 

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Well I don't know about that but a lot of weird things have happened like...

Oprah Winfrey Has A Luxury Mansion in Maui; It’s Completely Fine
Jeff Bezos Has A Luxury Mansion in Maui; It’s Completely Fine
Lady Gaga Has A Luxury Mansion in Maui; It’s Completely Fine
Bill Gates Has A Luxury Mansion in Maui; It’s Completely Fine
Morgan Freeman Has A Luxury Mansion in Maui; It’s Completely Fine
Will Smith Has A Luxury Mansion in Maui; It’s Completely Fine
Julia Roberts Has A Luxury Mansion in Maui; It’s Completely Fine

How did the fire know to avoid the most expensive mansions??? Oprah, Bezos and other elitist/globalists have already started making offers on prime real estate. I don't know about you but it sure looks nefarious to me and not just a fire that went amuck.
To be fair, the island is a bit bigger than just the part that burned. Approximately 25 miles wide and 50 miles long. I would expect anything upwind of the fire to have escaped damage.
 
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Well I don't know about that but a lot of weird things have happened like...

Oprah Winfrey Has A Luxury Mansion in Maui; It’s Completely Fine
Jeff Bezos Has A Luxury Mansion in Maui; It’s Completely Fine
Lady Gaga Has A Luxury Mansion in Maui; It’s Completely Fine
Bill Gates Has A Luxury Mansion in Maui; It’s Completely Fine
Morgan Freeman Has A Luxury Mansion in Maui; It’s Completely Fine
Will Smith Has A Luxury Mansion in Maui; It’s Completely Fine
Julia Roberts Has A Luxury Mansion in Maui; It’s Completely Fine

How did the fire know to avoid the most expensive mansions??? Oprah, Bezos and other elitist/globalists have already started making offers on prime real estate. I don't know about you but it sure looks nefarious to me and not just a fire that went amuck.
If my research is correct, the Maui island is like 460,000+ acres and around 2,500 acres burnt in the fire. So, it is a small percentage of the island that burnt, so many places would of survived.

Yet, when it is your house that burnt, it is 100% devastating.
 
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Well I don't know about that but a lot of weird things have happened like...

Oprah Winfrey Has A Luxury Mansion in Maui; It’s Completely Fine
Jeff Bezos Has A Luxury Mansion in Maui; It’s Completely Fine
Lady Gaga Has A Luxury Mansion in Maui; It’s Completely Fine
Bill Gates Has A Luxury Mansion in Maui; It’s Completely Fine
Morgan Freeman Has A Luxury Mansion in Maui; It’s Completely Fine
Will Smith Has A Luxury Mansion in Maui; It’s Completely Fine
Julia Roberts Has A Luxury Mansion in Maui; It’s Completely Fine

How did the fire know to avoid the most expensive mansions??? Oprah, Bezos and other elitist/globalists have already started making offers on prime real estate. I don't know about you but it sure looks nefarious to me and not just a fire that went amuck.
Wow ! Going full tinfoil hat on this !
 
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Joe Biden Has Sent Over $113,000,000,000 to Ukraine, which has a population of about 43,000,000. EQUALING MORE THAN $3,000 PER PERSON! Meanwhile, Joe Biden Has Sent Just $700 Per Person To Maui Fire Victims.
Why are U.S. citizens treated worse than Ukrainian citizens?
Maybe the Hawaiians weren't "connected"? You don't need to go that far. Why are some US citizens not treated like other US citizens?
 

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Below is a link to an interesting video discussing the fire. I don't know anything about the presenter, but I did enjoy how he presented the topic.

He covered the possibility of the power lines causing the fire. He explained about invasive grass, which I seen mentioned in an earlier post. He hits several interesting points and talks about some of the theories going around, but as noted, the facts still haven't been completely gathered.

 

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Joe Biden Has Sent Over $113,000,000,000 to Ukraine, which has a population of about 43,000,000. EQUALING MORE THAN $3,000 PER PERSON! Meanwhile, Joe Biden Has Sent Just $700 Per Person To Maui Fire Victims.
Why are U.S. citizens treated worse than Ukrainian citizens?
This is the part that makes my skin crawl. The fire themselves are a disaster, and its not likely there is any one cause of what happened but several factors which at this point we will likely only be able to speculate about.

I'm not a fan of taxes in general. But what I find the most irritating is how they are spent. How our politicians on BOTH sides do the same crap of funneling billions of dollars overseas when we can't even pay down our debts, then have the audacity to pinch their pennies when our citizens need help. Every single time we have a disaster like this in our nation its the same shit regardless of whos administration it is. I'd be curious which we generates the greater loss of life in this country; the "assault weapons" they like to cry about on the news so much or our government directly as they fumble around like idiots every time there's a disaster.

Atleast people have learned help isn't coming and just like every disaster we've seen since Katrina, there are thousands on the area taking it upon themselves to make supply runs into the affected parts of the island using their own vessels.
 
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On a more positive note:

Lahaina’s beloved, 150-year-old banyan was critically burned by the devastating Maui fires. But hope remains that the tree has not been lost.

Live tissue remains under the bark, which does not appear to be charred or cracked on the trunk or most aerial roots. A protective fence has been raised around the massive tree, which shades nearly three-fourths of an acre, and a daily watering program begun.

Many are pulling for its survival: Planted in 1873, when Hawaii was ruled by its native monarchy, the tree is a symbol of Lahaina’s history, but also of a shared community.
 
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