Don't buy a bigger tractor than you need.

Yotekiller

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Kubota L2502, LP 60" BB, LP pallet forks, 60" KK Tiller, 55" HSI root grapple
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A small machine on anything over 10 acres isn’t much fun, no matter what your uses.
I will have to disagree. I think your uses dictate the tractor you need, not the size of your property. I have well over 10 acres and my 2502 does everything I need it to do. I don't mow with it but do till deer plots and a large yearly garden and it handles those fine. It brings huge trees out of the woods with the grapple, it moves massive amounts of brush at a time, it dug a 30x50' hole for our swimming pool, it clears several hundred feet of blacktop driveway with no issues. I made a trail through a certain section of my woods that was steep hills and most guys would have never even attempted with their tractor, The 2502 was stable and did it perfectly.
But with that said, there are times I think about a MX series, I just hate the emissions. But some day I may buy an MX and delete it. I would like to have the extra lifting capacity but I have some giant logs still to deal with.
 
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airbiscuit

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New Holland T2310, New Holland TC21D, Kubota l3010 GST, Farmall H
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I will have to disagree. I think your uses dictate the tractor you need, not the size of your property. I have well over 10 acres and my 2502 does everything I need it to do. I don't mow with it but do till deer plots and a large yearly garden and it handles those fine. It brings huge trees out of the woods with the grapple, it moves massive amounts of brush at a time, it dug a 30x50' hole for our swimming pool, it clears several hundred feet of blacktop driveway with no issues. I made a trail through a certain section of my woods that was steep hills and most guys would have never even attempted with their tractor, The 2502 was stable and did it perfectly.
But with that said, there are times I think about a MX series, I just hate the emissions. But some day I may buy an MX and delete it. I would like to have the extra lifting capacity but I have some giant logs still to deal with.
Your L2502 is 2 frame sizes up from a BX series. I think you would be less happy doing your tasks with a BX.
 
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Yotekiller

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Kubota L2502, LP 60" BB, LP pallet forks, 60" KK Tiller, 55" HSI root grapple
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Your L2502 is 2 frame sizes up from a BX series. I think you would be less happy doing your tasks with a BX.

That's why I said choose the tractor for your intended use, not amount of acres. I put in months of research on what I "needed" at a minimum to accomplish my tasks. The L series fit the bill because it was more about tractor weight and lift capacity for me and not about HP. If my land was all field and I was mowing it, the L series would not have been chosen.
 

GreensvilleJay

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BX23-S,57 A-C D-14,58 A-C D-14, 57 A-C D-14,tiller,cults,Millcreek 25G spreader,
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Heck I don't 'need' my BX23S but my neighbours sure KNOW I do !!!
I can just get the D-14/tiller between the garage and deck.just, and that's with some serious 'armstrong exercises'.

I agree tractor should be bought based upon ACTUAL requirements of what it's supposed to do.Seriously doubt a picture framer uses a sledge hammer in his workshop...
 
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Hammarhead

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meh. Any compact tractor is a joy to use. That said, I see way more comments from people wishing they bought bigger for their first tractor, than wishing they bought smaller.

Here is my rule of thumb +

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It's funny how the perception regarding equipment sizing changes over time. I found this early Gravely ad interesting. I wonder how many people would agree with their point of view in 2025?
 

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nyawkpat

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Hi folks,I I'm a new member here.
My wife and I of a house on 16 acres of mostly hardwood on a mountainside at about 2200 ft. Our driveway is approximately 600 ft curving back and forth through the woods.
My wife enjoys gardening but digging through the hard pan and stone is torturously difficult. I would also like to get in to the woods more and harvest wood for our wood stoves.

I have considered looking for a used tractor (preferably diesel) that has capabilities for snow removal,hauling harvested firewood as well as excavating.(We have a 20 HP Craftsman tractor mower for lawn cutting which is pretty much useless for anything else.
I have a pretty limited budget so new is out of the question.
Thus I certainly would consider used however I'm apprehensive about where to look for something that doesn't turn out to be a money pit.
Thanks for any suggestions.
 

nbryan

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B2650 BH77 LA534 54" ssqa Forks B2782B BB1560 Woods M5-4 MaxxHaul 50039
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Hi folks,I I'm a new member here.
My wife and I of a house on 16 acres of mostly hardwood on a mountainside at about 2200 ft. Our driveway is approximately 600 ft curving back and forth through the woods.
My wife enjoys gardening but digging through the hard pan and stone is torturously difficult. I would also like to get in to the woods more and harvest wood for our wood stoves.

I have considered looking for a used tractor (preferably diesel) that has capabilities for snow removal,hauling harvested firewood as well as excavating.(We have a 20 HP Craftsman tractor mower for lawn cutting which is pretty much useless for anything else.
I have a pretty limited budget so new is out of the question.
Thus I certainly would consider used however I'm apprehensive about where to look for something that doesn't turn out to be a money pit.
Thanks for any suggestions.
Anything not a "money pit" , with new pricing being out of the question, good luck with that!

It took me a couple of years constantly shopping used to realize that a Kubota with the attachments or implements that I needed was nearly the same price of new. They're incredibly good at holding their value.

So for a used quality manufactured CUT that's in good shape, been well maintained, and has what you need? You almost always spend nearly what a new unit costs. Or are very lucky.
 

BobInSD

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It's funny how the perception regarding equipment sizing changes over time. I found this early Gravely ad interesting. I wonder how many people would agree with their point of view in 2025?
I actually used a Gravely L to “maintain” about 10 acres 20 or so years ago. It worked, but it wasn’t pretty. I have had real tractors since then, but still use the gravely for certain tasks. I enjoy using it and enjoy using the Kubota. The gravely was my dad’s so there’s some nostalgia there also.

I sometimes wonder if I went too big w/ my Grande L, but I already had some
Cat II implements & didn’t want to have to rebuy those. I really appreciate the weight and the HST when trying to blow heavy, deep snow though.
 
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bird dogger

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My Grandpa said he was in "Hog Heaven" when he replaced his horses with an IH "A" to farm their 160 acre homestead in the earlier 1900's. Less than 20 HP and it didn't try kick him, either!! :LOL:
 
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BX25D Rookie

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2011 BX 25LB-R (dirt work, snow, and brush hogging) & 2013 BX 2370 (mowing lawn)
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I have two locations separated by about 30 minutes driving time distance where I do tractor tasks.

My home has a ~ 1 acre lot. If you subtract the area of the house, driveway, and Morton Building type barn storage/shop building, it's maybe 2/3 of an acre. You don't really need much in the way of a tractor for mowing lawn and tractor tasks at the house. Anything larger than a BX is wasteful at the house.

My second property is ~ 69 acres. Of the 69 acres in total, 61 acres is forest, and all of the 61 forested acres are enrolled in the New York State 480a Forestry Tax Law program. The 480a program has strict regulations clearly specifying what you can do on the enrolled acreage, and what you cannot do. The goal of the 480a program is to encourage responsible/sustainable timber growth. Some examples of things not allowed, building/cutting new roads in the enrolled forest, erecting buildings on the enrolled acreage, building ponds on the enrolled acreage, unscheduled timber harvests on the enrolled acreage.

The previous owner of my piece of property enrolled the place in the 480a program long before I purchased it. Once a piece of property is enrolled in the 480a program, it stays in the program even after the property sells to another owner. I knew the property was enrolled in the 480a program when I purchased it. The "only" way to remove a property previously enrolled in the 480a program, is to pay back ALL tax breaks received since the beginning of time when the property was initially enrolled in the 480a program, and some penalties.

So next is the why. The enrolled timber acreage has a significant reduction in property taxes.
94% reduction to be exact. At some point in the future, my contract Forester, and my state Forester
will tell me, it's time for a timber harvest, your maple & cherry trees in the hardwood sections in the forest are mature. At that pre-scheduled harvest moment in time, 6% of the total value of the pre-scheduled timber harvest will be distributed to the local town &county municipalities in leu of the massive tax breaks that I have received over more than 20 years. The large mature hemlock trees on the 61 enrolled acres have been ready for harvest for a long time, but no loggers will come in and harvest the mature hemlock trees without maple/cherry being harvested at the same time. So the hemlock trees just continue growing.

Now back to tractors. If you subtract the forested enrolled acreage from the total, about 8 acres remain.
At the non house recreational property, I have a 1.5 to 2.0 acre field that I mow with a finish mower.
The field surrounds the cabin which we use as base camp during hunting season, and weekend getaways where we hunt/hike/play/ATV/SxS or even do some light bush hog/food plot activities.

Down in the center of the property there is a "field" surrounded by the enrolled forest where we have a mobile heated hunting shack set up and multiple ladder stands surrounding the food plot area.

That interior field is about 2 acres. Subtract the cabin field from the total, and the interior field,
and now you are down to around 4 acres. I have a 4 acre brush lot near the public road, below the cabin
and we don't do anything with it. It has many old farm apple trees, heavy brush, and holds deer.
Having the recreational property enrolled in the 480a program, consider it like owning your own personal "State Park" that you do not have to pay for out of your own personal wallet.

So I actually only use tractors on about 4 acres of the 69 total.
Owning the property is practically free, as the property tax is so low.
If the recreational property was not in the 480a program, I likely could not afford keeping it during retirement.

My primary concern with owning the property was the ability to get tractors to the location and doing projects. It's quite hilly/mountainous as far as the roads between the house and recreational property even though they are both within about 100' in actual elevation. I would love a Kubota L2502 or perhaps slightly larger, but the reality is, a pair of Kubota BX tractors will do everything that I need done at both of my properties. And the BX machines are ever so much easier to haul to the recreational property and back. If I got a L2502, I would be in the same situation as Forum Member McMXi and spending vast sums of money on larger trailers and tow vehicles.