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[Trimley]

What a shocker that some manufacturers use smoke and mirrors to sell their products. I admire Kubota's conservative and understated approach. It seems that they consider the system in its entirety and have a sense of how the equipment "should" be used.

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I'm completely satisfied with my little tractor, it serves my needs very well. I spoil it, in a strong sense. I pet it and pat it and rub it's belly. In return, it's always there and ready in my time of need.

A little Spinach will help it along the way.

 

[RCW]

What a shocker that some manufacturers use smoke and mirrors to sell their products. I admire Kubota's conservative and understated approach. It seems that they consider the system in its entirety and have a sense of how the equipment "should" be used.

True - this fellow is no stranger to tractors but he was hung up on the loader rating.

I tried to explain to him that I was dubious about it and my rationale, but he was fixated on it.

I never saw the spec in writing; just his explanation. He’s a smart guy…very smart guy.

He did ask me to go look at it with him before he bought it.

He has been happy with it and recently bought another larger cab model Mahindra to probably spread manure and plow his long driveway. Seems pleased with it also.

I doubt I would ever follow suit, but it works for him.

 

[WI_Hedgehog]

I remember Good Works Tractors doing a video on Kioti and Mahindra out-lifting Kubota by a longshot, and eventually he switched to Kioti because of the additional features, greater capacity, and lower price of Kioti.

About a month later I think I remember reading a thread about how it became difficult to get Kioti parts--though I could be mistaken. It's probably good to look into these things first regardless....

 

[Bearcatrp]

My son in law bought a Mahindra a couple years ago. Getting parts is a bitch and real expensive. He tried to convince me to go Mahindra when I was looking. Glad I didn't.

 

[mcmxi]

I remember Good Works Tractors doing a video on Kioti and Mahindra out-lifting Kubota by a longshot, and eventually he switched to Kioti because of the additional features, greater capacity, and lower price of Kioti.

About a month later I think I remember reading a thread about how it became difficult to get Kioti parts--though I could be mistaken. It's probably good to look into these things first regardless....

Courtney switched to Kioti because it's easier to sell cheaper used tractors, and Kioti are most likely the closest product to Kubota in terms of quality. Courtney loves Kubota products and owns a couple that he uses, but he's an astute businessman and understands that most of his customers are more comfortable at the Kioti price point because Kioti tractors are cheaper overall, and don't hold their value as well as used Kubota tractors. Since he sells used Kioti products it's in his best interest to convince potential customers that they're a better choice than Kubota. I can't fault him for that.

Whether or not Kioti offers better value for money, or is a better choice in the real-world rather than on paper is very much dependent on a number of subjective factors. I came close to buying a Kioti RX7320 but the lack of dealer support gave me pause. I wasn't concerned about the build quality, the features, the reliability or longevity, just the fact that Kioti was an unkown entity for me and I didn't have easy access to a dealer that's on par with the local Kubota dealer.

I've owned four Kubota tractors over the past nine years without a single issue with any of them. That's impressive to me and it's one of the reasons why Kubota is my first choice for just about any piece of equipment for agricultural or contruction type tasks.

 

[WI_Hedgehog]

@mcmxi : This post is an aside from the main topic and related to your previous post:
I learned long ago no matter how good a machine or tool is, if it breaks and you can't get parts for it the whole thing is (usually) a write-off. If I buy a $30K Chinese machine instead of a $40K Japanese machine and 10 years from now a critical part is No Longer Available the whole $30K investment is now worth scrap value and at that point I'm faced with buying a now $80K machine (or no longer having that machine). If that machine is for business use and is expected to last 7 years and parts are available for 10 years that's well and fine, but if it's a buy-once/cry-once lifetime purchase that really sucks when it becomes a landscape feature you have to pay to get rid of.

This happens even with name brands when a standard changes. Say a mainstream flail mower manufacturer switches to a standardized flail and flails for your older mower are phased out, your whole mower is going to become less useful as flails break. Or as happened to me a major chainsaw manufacturer standardized on 3/8" chain and dropped 1/4" chain, the $1,000 saw powerheads no longer have a source of consumables. Or a major battery powered tools manufacturer changes from NiCd to Lithium and the NiCd batteries are NLA, the expensive multi-bay chargers are useless and the power tools require clunky plastic eBay adapters--not so handy now. The manufacturers could have made these things compatible, but didn't, and the consumer pays the price.

As attractive as Chinese brands are their governmental system doesn't lend itself to long-term company/brand stability, so all politics aside five to seven years from now a broken machine is likely and unfixable machine and for me that's not a good investment.

 

[Trimley]

@mcmxi : This post is an aside from the main topic and related to your previous post:
I learned long ago no matter how good a machine or tool is, if it breaks and you can't get parts for it the whole thing is (usually) a write-off. If I buy a $30K Chinese machine instead of a $40K Japanese machine and 10 years from now a critical part is No Longer Available the whole $30K investment is now worth scrap value and at that point I'm faced with buying a now $80K machine (or no longer having that machine). If that machine is for business use and is expected to last 7 years and parts are available for 10 years that's well and fine, but if it's a buy-once/cry-once lifetime purchase that really sucks when it becomes a landscape feature you have to pay to get rid of.

This happens even with name brands when a standard changes. Say a mainstream flail mower manufacturer switches to a standardized flail and flails for your older mower are phased out, your whole mower is going to become less useful as flails break. Or as happened to me a major chainsaw manufacturer standardized on 3/8" chain and dropped 1/4" chain, the $1,000 saw powerheads no longer have a source of consumables. Or a major battery powered tools manufacturer changes from NiCd to Lithium and the NiCd batteries are NLA, the expensive multi-bay chargers are useless and the power tools require clunky plastic eBay adapters--not so handy now. The manufacturers could have made these things compatible, but didn't, and the consumer pays the price.

As attractive as Chinese brands are their governmental system doesn't lend itself to long-term company/brand stability, so all politics aside five to seven years from now a broken machine is likely and unfixable machine and for me that's not a good investment.

Very true. In many ways. Now days even more so, everything is made to only last short term. The days of American Built/American Strong is long since in the past.

I've always had the mentality, Buy Once-Cry Once. The convenience of having that, that's also become "less" as a whole.

One of my friends had two Kiotis, both lemons. Given that, I bought a Kubota.

 

[Yotekiller]

I was the guy who was smoking the Korean tractor fluff as well. I researched all the different brands with open eyes but but really planning on a kioti. Definitely bang for your buck on the Korean tractors. I talked to a few independent tractor repair shops and heard horror stories about repairs and parts availability. That was enough for me. I chose the 2502 for a couple of reasons. There is no emissions, and Kubota sells a LOT of this model. That told me parts will be around for years and years.
I wanted to buy one tractor and be done with it. That played heavily in my decision. I struggled hard between the 2502, 3560, and the mx. wasn’t drastic enough $ to sway me either way. I had a cash budget $15k more than what I spent, the 2502 was what I thought I could get by with mostly problem free. That itself is worth a lot.