Alright in about to lose my mind

[Code2medic]

Anyone have insight on how to get the belt over the ac pully its in the proper spot on the bottom just not enough to get it over the ac pully.

as you can see in the pictures the belt is around the pully at the bottom just not enough to get it to get over the top

any tips would be great so my hands and arms can spot getting chewed up from the limited space

 

[85Hokie]

there is no "adjustment" bolt/nut?

Is it possible to turn the engine over by hand? Or place large socket on AC nut and turn it?

 

[Russell King]

I don’t understand how your pictures are arranged but usually the compressor can be loosened and moved towards the belt, then the belt is installed and compressor is pulled out to tighten the belt.

Another style is that the belt goes over a third (idler) pulley that can be moved to loosen or tighten the belt

You may want to look at a illustrated parts list to see if that shows how the belt is routed.

 

[Code2medic]

I don’t understand how your pictures are arranged but usually the compressor can be loosened and moved towards the belt, then the belt is installed and compressor is pulled out to tighten the belt.

Another style is that the belt goes over a third (idler) pulley that can be moved to loosen or tighten the belt

You may want to look at a illustrated parts list to see if that shows how the belt is routed.

Not sure how moving the ac compressor towards the belt will allow me to get it on the pulley it has two bolts one on the bottom in front and one in back that i wouldnt be able to get to

the third pulley to the mid left idler is adjustable still doesnt help getting it onto the bottom and top pulleys tho

 

[woodman55]

Is it the right belt ? If you can't get it on the second pulley and it's not even on the adjuster just, than something is way off. Compare you new belt to your old one to start with.

 

[jkrubi12]

Try looping onto the 'bigger' pulley first, if possible. The smaller pulley should be easier to 'mount'.

 

[GreensvilleJay]

this... You may want to look at a illustrated parts list to see if that shows how the belt is routed.

was my first idea, went to online parts..NO mention of air conditioning,sigh.maybe i missed it ?

agree there has to be a 3rd pulley or adjustable AC unit.
could try putting belt on the 2nd pulley first, then wiggle 'top' of belt up and over ?
curious as to what the 1st pulley powers ?

googled, founda 3rd party place, THEY show the compressor bracket, and it's slotted !

 

[Chanceywd]

It doesn't maybe go on the smaller crank pulley behind the large one instead? maybe check to see if that one is lined up with the compressor one not the front one.

Hard to tell from the picture but that smaller one looks like it has wear pattern on it.

Bill

 

[Code2medic]

Is it the right belt ? If you can't get it on the second pulley and it's not even on the adjuster just, than something is way off. Compare you new belt to your old one to start with.

its the same belt. Checked that when the new one came in.

there are just two pulley's the third is just the tensioner. Its blowing my ming i will say that.

and i did take pics of my buddies which is the same tractor just to make sure it wasnt me

here is his you can see it better

 

[GreensvilleJay]

Ok, with belt past the fan blade...release the tensioner all the way...
I'd wiggle it onto the lower pulley,then up over the top one, then adjust the tensioner
I KNOW it'll be a LOT easier than the fanbelt on my forklift was !!!

If all else fails...take your buddies off and practice on his

 

[woodman55]

Check the alignment of the pulleys, I think you have it on the wrong lower pulley. Put it on the inner lower (smaller) one.

 

[Chanceywd]

Check the alignment of the pulleys, I think you have it on the wrong lower pulley. Put it on the inner lower (smaller) one.

I thought that might be the case but he posted pictures of his friends identical tractor and that one appears to be out on the larger front one.
Said the belt is the same as the original one too.

I am headed back to the sidelines to see what happens as it appears I was wrong.

Hope he get's it figured out.

Bill

 

[Code2medic]

Ok, with belt past the fan blade...release the tensioner all the way...
I'd wiggle it onto the lower pulley,then up over the top one, then adjust the tensioner
I KNOW it'll be a LOT easier than the fanbelt on my forklift was !!!

If all else fails...take your buddies off and practice on his

The tensioner has nothing to do with getting the belt on the lower pulley and ac pulley thats where the issue is. The tension pulley is for left right play not up and down

 

[GreensvilleJay]

I was thinking it might be in the way to actually get the belt onto the pulleys. I know my FL is a bear and you have to hold your tongue the right way and 'magically' if flops on.....

In looking at the pictures again, the belt goes on the rear lower pulley first, then the AC pulley. I'd probably remove the tensioning pulley as it appears to interfere with getting the belt on

One of those 'have to be there and do it in person' deals....
..wonder what the WSM says....?

 

[Russell King]

Do you have the belt around two pulleys or all three?

Here is how I think you should proceed
1. Loosen the bolt in the center of the adjustable pulley.
2. Loosen the bolt that will be used to tighten the adjustable pulley quite a bit.
3. Get the adjustable pulley to move so that the head of the adjustment bolt is again against the bracket or at least closer to the bracket. You may have to persuade it.

4. Get the belt only onto the two non adjustable pulleys in the correct grooves.
5. Get the belt onto the third adjustable pulley.
6. Grab the adjustable pulley (if you can) and pull it against the belt.
7. Tighten the adjustment bolt a little bit getting the head of the bolt back against the bracket.
8. Snug the center bolt on the adjustable pulley center (not tight but snug)
9. Adjust the belt tension but tightening the adjustment bolt but not too tight.
10. Tighten the center bolt of the adjustable pulley
11. Make sure you have all tools and lights out of the area
12. Start tractor and make sure everything looks good with the belt but don’t get near any moving parts or belts
13. Turn on the AC and enjoy the cool air from the vents.
14. Consider the job complete if you’re satisfied with the operation and belt noise.
15. Run belt for a few hours over a few days and check the belt tension again and adjust as required.

Remember that you can have a lot of belt tension with that adjustable pulley so don’t over tighten the adjustment bolt

 

[Fordtech86]

Turn the crank pulley by hand like hokie said. Using the compressor bolt to turn it is not gonna happen if the clutch isn’t engaged (not that it may hold even if it was engaged to turn it there)

won’t mention another option that requires no tools

 

[Code2medic]

Do you have the belt around two pulleys or all three?

Here is how I think you should proceed
1. Loosen the bolt in the center of the adjustable pulley.
2. Loosen the bolt that will be used to tighten the adjustable pulley quite a bit.
3. Get the adjustable pulley to move so that the head of the adjustment bolt is again against the bracket or at least closer to the bracket. You may have to persuade it.

4. Get the belt only onto the two non adjustable pulleys in the correct grooves.
5. Get the belt onto the third adjustable pulley.
6. Grab the adjustable pulley (if you can) and pull it against the belt.
7. Tighten the adjustment bolt a little bit getting the head of the bolt back against the bracket.
8. Snug the center bolt on the adjustable pulley center (not tight but snug)
9. Adjust the belt tension but tightening the adjustment bolt but not too tight.
10. Tighten the center bolt of the adjustable pulley
11. Make sure you have all tools and lights out of the area
12. Start tractor and make sure everything looks good with the belt but don’t get near any moving parts or belts
13. Turn on the AC and enjoy the cool air from the vents.
14. Consider the job complete if you’re satisfied with the operation and belt noise.
15. Run belt for a few hours over a few days and check the belt tension again and adjust as required.

Remember that you can have a lot of belt tension with that adjustable pulley so don’t over tighten the adjustment bolt

russell its around only two well 1 and 3/4 the tension pullinghas been loosened andout of the way till i solve getting it completely on the ac pulley

 

[GreensvilleJay]

Hmm, is it on the bigger lower pulley or the smaller lower pulley ?
In your picture, you have it on the bigger pulley, while your friend's engine has it on the smaller pulley.
Looking at his etup, there's more than enough 'length' to wrap belt ove rhte 2 correct pulleys and then tension it. You should never 'force' a belt on..too easy to damage it.

 

[Russell King]

Or just get a slightly longer belt since you have plenty of room to tension it.

Could you have gotten a belt that has the wrong cross section for the pulley??

 

[ve9aa]

Same thing happens to me when I buy a belt. It never seems to fit as loose around my Levi's as the previous one.

Sorry ! No help from here at all....Just a little levity so you don't lose your mind.