Hey Joe, this is going to go on and on with your welts breaking, till you get a MIG or arc welder you can get Harbor freight cheapest for around $125 plus a helmet and you’ll do much better, much stronger. Watch a YouTube on welding.
Fixing hole in side of block
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You have to remember, this project is not about doing it correctly or quickly..... it's a version of Saturday Night Live for OTT. It's pure entertainment. Only come to this thread when you're bored.
@joesmith123 If you want to use your torches to weld, try to bevel the edges you're joining, so the filler material can penetrate better, and use a smaller/tighter neutral flame. Also make sure everything is as clean as possible (bright shiny metal), including your filler rod. Be sure to remove any galvanization if you're using nails as you can get zinc poisoning from the fumes. Once you're done welding, clean the weld up and check that it actually worked. Looking at the backside of the weld can often tell you if you did a good job.
I've read this entire amazing thread, and I don't think Joe is doing this for performative reasons, he just has a very different budget and attitude to many people who can afford to own a tractor. I've enjoyed seeing how far he has been able to come on pure determination.
I've read this entire amazing thread, and I don't think Joe is doing this for performative reasons, he just has a very different budget and attitude to many people who can afford to own a tractor. I've enjoyed seeing how far he has been able to come on pure determination.
made a mistake, experiment with even bigger flame
articulate mistake: you didnt have to introduce those thin plates, that added height, messing with the bolts/placement/everything
no, take off those plates and just mate the 2 massive thick plates using crazy flame
a bit nervous: but turn up the acetylene even higher at the tank control, turn thick steel into molten with insane flame
current problem: to get it to molten would be an hour of holding still that flame, you get tired about 4 hours of holding still
slowly turn up acetylene and experimenting with making it work
make some effort to capture magic trick in video
i show you what you did: put the entire bracket complex back on the chassis, put you in the bolts, put you a clamp to hold it perfectly,
get you that entire steel complex onto the cinderblock,
calm you down and clear your mind, zero clenching of heart, make you some molten for a few hour
do each side using gravity, always where you want the puddle to form, do one side, twist 90 degrees, until the entire thing is all one entity
@Vagabond
yes thank you for tip on acetylene below 15
right now I am at 5 psi acytelene, might take it up to 7-8 psi
and yes, the trick is to move super slow, with a crazy flame, along a path so that your area you hit is always molton/close to it
very good statement
grind you down all area you want magic down to bare metal
hillbilly filler: put you some nails where you want filler, gravity will melt it right where you need it
its nicer to not have to deal with the filler so you can have both arms on flame control
declare you some key point:
the flame has to be way bigger than you think, as big as possible, strong flame
the less clench your heart, the better control you have of the puddle
hit the high spots dead center very close, make you a puddle, spread the high points,
sometimes a hole forms and its hard to push molten into it, sometimes it fills the hole
you rise the molten in the direction opposite of the flame, use this trick to control how you want the molten to rise and connect with the surrounding area
by the end of your weld, you are fully grounded, barely holding yourself up from fatigue,
flame searing steel instantly turning it to molten
narrative keep revealing itself: when you turn the two entities into molten and they become one,
your brain also experience similar feeling,
something in your brain also melt and reconnect with another side it has been separated for long time
keep you errupting that molten, and keep you an eye on that narrative
articulate mistake: you didnt have to introduce those thin plates, that added height, messing with the bolts/placement/everything
no, take off those plates and just mate the 2 massive thick plates using crazy flame
a bit nervous: but turn up the acetylene even higher at the tank control, turn thick steel into molten with insane flame
current problem: to get it to molten would be an hour of holding still that flame, you get tired about 4 hours of holding still
slowly turn up acetylene and experimenting with making it work
make some effort to capture magic trick in video
i show you what you did: put the entire bracket complex back on the chassis, put you in the bolts, put you a clamp to hold it perfectly,
get you that entire steel complex onto the cinderblock,
calm you down and clear your mind, zero clenching of heart, make you some molten for a few hour
do each side using gravity, always where you want the puddle to form, do one side, twist 90 degrees, until the entire thing is all one entity
@Vagabond
yes thank you for tip on acetylene below 15
right now I am at 5 psi acytelene, might take it up to 7-8 psi
and yes, the trick is to move super slow, with a crazy flame, along a path so that your area you hit is always molton/close to it
very good statement
grind you down all area you want magic down to bare metal
hillbilly filler: put you some nails where you want filler, gravity will melt it right where you need it
its nicer to not have to deal with the filler so you can have both arms on flame control
declare you some key point:
the flame has to be way bigger than you think, as big as possible, strong flame
the less clench your heart, the better control you have of the puddle
hit the high spots dead center very close, make you a puddle, spread the high points,
sometimes a hole forms and its hard to push molten into it, sometimes it fills the hole
you rise the molten in the direction opposite of the flame, use this trick to control how you want the molten to rise and connect with the surrounding area
by the end of your weld, you are fully grounded, barely holding yourself up from fatigue,
flame searing steel instantly turning it to molten
narrative keep revealing itself: when you turn the two entities into molten and they become one,
your brain also experience similar feeling,
something in your brain also melt and reconnect with another side it has been separated for long time
keep you errupting that molten, and keep you an eye on that narrative
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JRHill
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Orange: B7100 Std and Woodmizer; Green/yellow JD Buck, Gator and 410j.
The above is the only possible reason that this thread keeps going.You have to remember, this project is not about doing it correctly or quickly..... it's a version of Saturday Night Live for OTT. It's pure entertainment. Only come to this thread when you're bored.
@joesmith123 remember to keep your acetylene pressure under 15PSI on the regulator or the acetylene can become unstable and explosive. Just get your flame neutral and take your time getting the material hot, once you get one spot hot enough, the adjacent areas are going to be much closer to working temperature anyway.
For what your spending on acetylene probably could find a mobile welder that would come to your place and do it right. All that extra heat you add can change the metal strength causing more problems later. But on the other hand, sounds like it will just be used to play in your sandbox so let's see if your way works. Maybe a big magnifying glass would work to preheat the metal with all your sunshine.
I think he mentioned somewhere that he does not have mains electricity. But an engine driven mobile welder should work.
melt rebar where the tear was on your bracket
i show you what you fixing to do:
cut you a piece of rebar where your tear was on your bracket, clean it real good hit grinding wheel
flux the area you want it to sit and set the bracket using gravity to even out the puddle in the shape you want
give it INSANE direct flame for dedicated 30-40 minute
see if you can get your tear to strengthen using rebar
(I looked around the shop could not find any thick steel plates, in the background search you for tons of steel plate for good deal, scrap metal)
cut your rebar to size, grind your rebar with grinding wheel
setup where you want your puddle to go down with gravity, aiming where it goes
point you the most insane flame downward for long duration
melt half of your rebar onto the bracket with insane flame
bend down the rebar while it is molten with hammer to accomodate shape of your bracket
flame keeps shutting off, aceteylene valve open, something off with your adjustment at the cylinder
one side done, flip bracket 90 degree and do the other side,
sear the high point into molten and let it fall into the other crevice
there is nothing wrong with your adjustment, your just running out of acetylene
thats the best you got it with the low aceytelene pressure
your all out of aceteylene, thats the best you got it
arrange to get acetylene, give the bracket a shot the way it is, expecting it to break
when acetylene flowing, you have immense power turning thick steel into molten, you using magic to change your reality
when aceytelene not flowing, superman lose his superpower, you can't do the magic trick, you are deflated
fill you up that aceytelene tank asap
this new challenge is fatiguing you, your heart/mind turning to molten to accommodate the challenge, let your heart and mind turn to molten temporarily while it rearranges your skill,
just like the molten erupting, letting go of its strength when it is liquid so it can connect with the other entity
i show you what you fixing to do:
cut you a piece of rebar where your tear was on your bracket, clean it real good hit grinding wheel
flux the area you want it to sit and set the bracket using gravity to even out the puddle in the shape you want
give it INSANE direct flame for dedicated 30-40 minute
see if you can get your tear to strengthen using rebar
(I looked around the shop could not find any thick steel plates, in the background search you for tons of steel plate for good deal, scrap metal)
cut your rebar to size, grind your rebar with grinding wheel
setup where you want your puddle to go down with gravity, aiming where it goes
point you the most insane flame downward for long duration
melt half of your rebar onto the bracket with insane flame
bend down the rebar while it is molten with hammer to accomodate shape of your bracket
flame keeps shutting off, aceteylene valve open, something off with your adjustment at the cylinder
one side done, flip bracket 90 degree and do the other side,
sear the high point into molten and let it fall into the other crevice
there is nothing wrong with your adjustment, your just running out of acetylene
thats the best you got it with the low aceytelene pressure
your all out of aceteylene, thats the best you got it
arrange to get acetylene, give the bracket a shot the way it is, expecting it to break
when acetylene flowing, you have immense power turning thick steel into molten, you using magic to change your reality
when aceytelene not flowing, superman lose his superpower, you can't do the magic trick, you are deflated
fill you up that aceytelene tank asap
this new challenge is fatiguing you, your heart/mind turning to molten to accommodate the challenge, let your heart and mind turn to molten temporarily while it rearranges your skill,
just like the molten erupting, letting go of its strength when it is liquid so it can connect with the other entity
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JRHill
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Orange: B7100 Std and Woodmizer; Green/yellow JD Buck, Gator and 410j.
Somewhere down the road these problem areas are gonna be a real mess to repair properly. Or if you call someone they'll say "Ain't no way I'll try to fix that."
Pretty sure this is a stage 4 case of "previous owner syndrome" anyway.
It has been a few years, maybe 15, since I have done brazing or O/A welding. I don't recall using brazing flux for steel welding. Just the properly set neutral flame. Am I wrong?
JRHill
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Orange: B7100 Std and Woodmizer; Green/yellow JD Buck, Gator and 410j.
No, you are not wrong. Don't you remember overheating brazing flux and it impleaded the flow? And that was for brazing....
Ridiculously expensive, but made for this job. I have not tried it but I’m sure I will someday. Maybe glue it in with JB and tack it with Crown Royal:
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You need welding gases, try bracket as it is
your massive welding tanks are showing 0 on the main gauge but still putting out tiny gas
you see 0 on acetylene and oxygen
will your rebar welding massive bracket complex hold? definitely no
you point: the magic trick successfully binded them but the heating/cooling formed a crack in your magic trick
melted on rebar hit it with some grinding wheel
mock bracket back onto your tractor, and you can see:
you can melt a massive piece of steel along the path of the socket extension later once you get gas that would not interfere with the bolt holes
for now: put it back together and move you your realm a bit since you cant get gas for few days
put you on all the fender, big bolts onto your bracket contraption
you shape realm for 30 minute, woah, somehow your bracket molten contraption holding, unbelieveable
but another major tear forming now, this was welded 10-20 year ago and now it is kaputt
once one tear closes in your steel another tear open
40 minute of lugging around your realm, your molten bracket rebar contraption break
your massive welding tanks are showing 0 on the main gauge but still putting out tiny gas
you see 0 on acetylene and oxygen
will your rebar welding massive bracket complex hold? definitely no
you point: the magic trick successfully binded them but the heating/cooling formed a crack in your magic trick
melted on rebar hit it with some grinding wheel
mock bracket back onto your tractor, and you can see:
you can melt a massive piece of steel along the path of the socket extension later once you get gas that would not interfere with the bolt holes
for now: put it back together and move you your realm a bit since you cant get gas for few days
put you on all the fender, big bolts onto your bracket contraption
you shape realm for 30 minute, woah, somehow your bracket molten contraption holding, unbelieveable
but another major tear forming now, this was welded 10-20 year ago and now it is kaputt
once one tear closes in your steel another tear open
40 minute of lugging around your realm, your molten bracket rebar contraption break
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tire finally throw a white flag, one weld break and your entire japan robot out of service
tire finally come off the bead, still run it til your on bare metal
this weld holding on for dear life, once it break,
both major connections of left side of loader completely disconnected from tractor,
making your robot completely out of commission
have you wondered if its possible to make big thick steel come back together permamently?
you've come to right channel, your fixing to test with crazy flame if you can make molten out of thick steel and it hold permamently
the segment of this thread is brought to you nobody, because
if they told you how to do this, you would gather gold and that would harm the corporate profit/bottom line
lug around your realm with your diesel robot barely held together
steel molten level land connection:
where you point that big flame is similar to where you lug around your big steel bucket, in that
point your flame at the high spot make molten and it fall and even your weld out,
lug around big steel bucket on the high point of your realm, and they will fall and plain you out your realm
you thought those two skills werent connected, wrong
ride your 45 year old tractor til the wheel fall off, and you still keep going
lug your diesel robot back to your shop
list of all things wrong: busted weld at front support, major bracket on back left, front major support tearing, and busted weld at FEL valve,
loader cylinders still leaking not being used
install you another busted tire and fix none of those problems,
churn you more earth
tire finally come off the bead, still run it til your on bare metal
this weld holding on for dear life, once it break,
both major connections of left side of loader completely disconnected from tractor,
making your robot completely out of commission
have you wondered if its possible to make big thick steel come back together permamently?
you've come to right channel, your fixing to test with crazy flame if you can make molten out of thick steel and it hold permamently
the segment of this thread is brought to you nobody, because
if they told you how to do this, you would gather gold and that would harm the corporate profit/bottom line
lug around your realm with your diesel robot barely held together
steel molten level land connection:
where you point that big flame is similar to where you lug around your big steel bucket, in that
point your flame at the high spot make molten and it fall and even your weld out,
lug around big steel bucket on the high point of your realm, and they will fall and plain you out your realm
you thought those two skills werent connected, wrong
ride your 45 year old tractor til the wheel fall off, and you still keep going
lug your diesel robot back to your shop
list of all things wrong: busted weld at front support, major bracket on back left, front major support tearing, and busted weld at FEL valve,
loader cylinders still leaking not being used
install you another busted tire and fix none of those problems,
churn you more earth
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The narrative of all narrative
in this thread so far, we took you back to 1970 something, when
L295DT awaken from the dead, lug around your realm, swinging big steel bucket
Now, we fixing to you back to 1680 something, before english language,
Ignite memory of your ancestor on a cold dreary day in some mountain village shop, where
your ancestor was making molton out of big steel, shaping and fabricating the steel to meet your customer need
you thought you got all that good popcorn, and made a special trip to get the perfect fatty meat,
and there would not be a show?
your wait is over, today is the day
Arguably the most important narrative that this whole thread been barreling toward
the narrative you been wondering since your childhood:
"Can we get a big flame, turn steel into molton, and it hold successfully?"
fill you up two massive tanks of the magic gas
The weld that lasted about 40 minute of earth moving:
notice on this side the rebar did not melt into the other half of bracket
on other side: you can see rebar successfully melted into bracket
articulate the event:
Hit all area with grinding wheel, put them all close together firm
set them exactly how you want them to hold
heat you up both entities with more aceteylene and less oxygen for 5-10 minute
once everything hot,
turn you up that aceteylene slowly and test out how you feel about it, get comfortable with it without any hurry or pressure
then melt you serious molten along the path of the tears, have you maybe some nails close by to use as filler
test out the theories where you stay on one area, errupting it into moulton,
waiting for it to heal/close, your not in a hurry, your heart NOT clench
name one reason you need to clench your heart? you cant
setup bracket properly, melt it back together where it tear, then later do the other side with the rebar
spend you some time with your adjustment:
turn valve you point to all the way loose, open main tank valve, then turn this valve clockwise/tight to engage the gas into your torch
put both pressures at around 11 psi when running full
anytime you dont feel like making moulton, do not forget narrative:
make you some moulton and your brain will also become moulton and bind better with your heart
you might've done it
it really was the flame, it needs an insane flame, scary
hit you that thick steel with that big flame, take you back to your ancestor, forget you about english language
when your gas run out, superman lose his superpower
when those tanks full, you cut through thick steel like butter,
unclench your heart, forget you about all your issue, go you deep deep into that moulton
feel you that power of that big flame
at this stage in your journey, experiment you with different angle to see the nature of the lava
to understand how to manipulate it, sometimes it does not want to go where you want it,
be patient with it and give a second for the narrative to come in using your natural instinct
experiment you with that big flame, try new angles and areas to get the narrative on the moulton manipulation
flip bracket other side, get you ready bind rebar and bracket
yes, turn you that steel into moulton, bind your two entity
the angle you point that big flame matter
sign that your two entity binding:
When you are pushing molten successfully into your other entity,
It will have a resistance since it is binding two different temperature metals, and
sparks will start to fly of a differen color, giving you the knod that you
are successfully binding the two entity
wow
low spot and you want the lava to puddle there:
point the flame at the high point at an angle pushing lava into your lower area where you wanted the lava to go
learning narrative appear to you after 4/5 hour of playing with moulton
you learn best when there is no pressure on you and there is no deadline
when you are lost in the lava, studying how to manipulate it
with a clear mind and suspension of time/worry/hunger/clench heart/all statement
when you are with your ancestor, in that dreary shop, conducting magic trick
english language not in sight
in this thread so far, we took you back to 1970 something, when
L295DT awaken from the dead, lug around your realm, swinging big steel bucket
Now, we fixing to you back to 1680 something, before english language,
Ignite memory of your ancestor on a cold dreary day in some mountain village shop, where
your ancestor was making molton out of big steel, shaping and fabricating the steel to meet your customer need
you thought you got all that good popcorn, and made a special trip to get the perfect fatty meat,
and there would not be a show?
your wait is over, today is the day
Arguably the most important narrative that this whole thread been barreling toward
the narrative you been wondering since your childhood:
"Can we get a big flame, turn steel into molton, and it hold successfully?"
fill you up two massive tanks of the magic gas
The weld that lasted about 40 minute of earth moving:
notice on this side the rebar did not melt into the other half of bracket
on other side: you can see rebar successfully melted into bracket
articulate the event:
Hit all area with grinding wheel, put them all close together firm
set them exactly how you want them to hold
heat you up both entities with more aceteylene and less oxygen for 5-10 minute
once everything hot,
turn you up that aceteylene slowly and test out how you feel about it, get comfortable with it without any hurry or pressure
then melt you serious molten along the path of the tears, have you maybe some nails close by to use as filler
test out the theories where you stay on one area, errupting it into moulton,
waiting for it to heal/close, your not in a hurry, your heart NOT clench
name one reason you need to clench your heart? you cant
setup bracket properly, melt it back together where it tear, then later do the other side with the rebar
spend you some time with your adjustment:
turn valve you point to all the way loose, open main tank valve, then turn this valve clockwise/tight to engage the gas into your torch
put both pressures at around 11 psi when running full
anytime you dont feel like making moulton, do not forget narrative:
make you some moulton and your brain will also become moulton and bind better with your heart
you might've done it
it really was the flame, it needs an insane flame, scary
hit you that thick steel with that big flame, take you back to your ancestor, forget you about english language
when your gas run out, superman lose his superpower
when those tanks full, you cut through thick steel like butter,
unclench your heart, forget you about all your issue, go you deep deep into that moulton
feel you that power of that big flame
at this stage in your journey, experiment you with different angle to see the nature of the lava
to understand how to manipulate it, sometimes it does not want to go where you want it,
be patient with it and give a second for the narrative to come in using your natural instinct
experiment you with that big flame, try new angles and areas to get the narrative on the moulton manipulation
flip bracket other side, get you ready bind rebar and bracket
yes, turn you that steel into moulton, bind your two entity
the angle you point that big flame matter
sign that your two entity binding:
When you are pushing molten successfully into your other entity,
It will have a resistance since it is binding two different temperature metals, and
sparks will start to fly of a differen color, giving you the knod that you
are successfully binding the two entity
wow
low spot and you want the lava to puddle there:
point the flame at the high point at an angle pushing lava into your lower area where you wanted the lava to go
learning narrative appear to you after 4/5 hour of playing with moulton
you learn best when there is no pressure on you and there is no deadline
when you are lost in the lava, studying how to manipulate it
with a clear mind and suspension of time/worry/hunger/clench heart/all statement
when you are with your ancestor, in that dreary shop, conducting magic trick
english language not in sight
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North Idaho Wolfman
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Ditch the gas welding, it's not going to do it!
You need arc or Mig, either will do it.
You can get a 110/120 Volt mig welder that will weld that.
A 220/240 volt welder would be better if you have the service for it.
You need arc or Mig, either will do it.
You can get a 110/120 Volt mig welder that will weld that.
A 220/240 volt welder would be better if you have the service for it.
I think he's got power, think he's been using an angle grinder before, plus charging his phone and who knows what else.