What does everyone collect or do for a hobby?

[dirtydeed]

Have a 32 wspl on the wall. If memory serves, sn falls in somewhere in that black hole period of WWII. I never could get an exact year on it.

It's quite a shooter too.

 

[armylifer]

Have a 32 wspl on the wall. If memory serves, sn falls in somewhere in that black hole period of WWII. I never could get an exact year on it.

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It's quite a shooter too.

Try looking your serial number up on this document. Scroll down to page 9. It lists the serial numbers for model 94's

 

[dirtydeed]

Try looking your serial number up on this document. Scroll down to page 9. It lists the serial numbers for model 94's

Thanks. But, I fall into that black hole period (1943-1947). My best guess was 1944.

If anyone knows differently, my sn is : 1273027

 

[armylifer]

Thanks. But, I fall into that black hole period (1943-1947). My best guess was 1944.

If anyone knows differently, my sn is : 1273027

Just for fun I will try to find something about that rifle. If I find anything I will let you know.

 

[armylifer]

Just for fun I will try to find something about that rifle. If I find anything I will let you know.

In the interest of providing knowledge for everyone that is interested, I am posting the following links. In the first link, read post #2. The second link is for the website referenced by post #2 in the first link.

Forum -

winchestercollector.org

Choose the model number and enter the serial number. Your rifle was made in 1941.

Dates -

winchestercollector.org

 

[NorthwoodsLife]

Decades ago. Shot my dad's Marlin 30-30 carbine. Dad bet me and my brother that we couldn't put 20 rnds apiece through it without having lasting pain the next day.

No stock buffer pad on it, just 2 young men, 2 boxes of 170 gr rounds and a gorgeous lever carbine. Easy money. Wrong!

That beauty was a beast. We lost that bet.

No newbies, my brother and I were rootin tootin avid target shooters and reloaders back then too. 308, 30-06, no problem. That 30-30 was a shoulder puncher like no other.

 

[NorthwoodsLife]

I also have several Lionel O Gage trains/track and related. Went to a model train show in Syracuse this past weekend with the wife she feel in love with the little buildings/people. Now we are seriously talking about building a G scale track around our Koi pond and bog . Oh yeah another one of my hobbies that my wife is into too.

There's something about trains. And model trains. I love that stuff.

I think it was Paul Simon who had lyrics in a song....
"Everybody loves the sound of a train in the distance. Everybody thinks it's true".
Not relative, but I think of that song watching model railroads ..

 

[armylifer]

Decades ago. Shot my dad's Marlin 30-30 carbine. Dad bet me and my brother that we couldn't put 20 rnds apiece through it without having lasting pain the next day.

No stock buffer pad on it, just 2 young men, 2 boxes of 170 gr rounds and a gorgeous lever carbine. Easy money. Wrong!

That beauty was a beast. We lost that bet.

No newbies, my brother and I were rootin tootin avid target shooters and reloaders back then too. 308, 30-06, no problem. That 30-30 was a shoulder puncher like no other.

I don't get it. The 30-06 and the .308 are about 30% more powerful than the 30-30. How can the kick from the 30-30 be more powerful than the 30-06 or the .308? Maybe that was your perception because you were kids at the time.

 

[leveraddict]

That 20" Cowboy is an 1894 chambered in .45 Colt but still a thumper given how light it is and the payload!

I shot some pretty anemic loads out of my 45 colt cowboy although the Marlin action is capable of much more! After pulling the trigger I could hear the bullet hit the target!

 

[PHPaul]

I shot some pretty anemic loads out of my 45 colt cowboy although the Marlin action is capable of much more! After pulling the trigger I could hear the bullet hit the target!

Yup. I had a Henry in .45 Colt that was the same way. Made me giggle every time.

Sold it to help come up with the downpayment for the Cabota, wish I still had it.

.22 shorts are the same: Pop! Ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss tink!

 

[lynnmor]

I don't get it. The 30-06 and the .308 are about 30% more powerful than the 30-30. How can the kick from the 30-30 be more powerful than the 30-06 or the .308? Maybe that was your perception because you were kids at the time.

You need to consider the weight of the firearm.

 

[rc51stierhoff]

I don't get it. The 30-06 and the .308 are about 30% more powerful than the 30-30. How can the kick from the 30-30 be more powerful than the 30-06 or the .308? Maybe that was your perception because you were kids at the time.

Good day. I am not sure if this will help or that I am explaining correctly, but I’ll give it a go…

When you say ‘power’, that can mean a lot of things but…there is speed and bullet weight and the profile of the bullet contribute a lot to the speed and down range energy….a neck down cartridge with a high BC bullet in a .308 caliber are going to be more efficient. Bullet velocity and down range energy of the bullet are different than recoil.

There are quite a few variables that will impact / contribute to recoil…bullet weight and type to some extent, charge of powder, constriction of the barrel…ultimately the amount of the pressure created by those, and then also firearm weight and barrel length has some minimizing effect. There could be more but those are some of the basics.

I am not sure that helps or not?

 

[ken erickson]

I don't get it. The 30-06 and the .308 are about 30% more powerful than the 30-30. How can the kick from the 30-30 be more powerful than the 30-06 or the .308? Maybe that was your perception because you were kids at the time.

Stock design also has a big effect on FELT recoil. The amount of drop at the heel and toe, the type of recoil pad if any, the design of cheek piece if any and even the stock material, wood versus synthetic.

Felt recoil versus foot pounds of recoil generated by a firing a given round oftentimes will be perceived quite differently when all these variables are figured in, including the physical shape , bone structure, size of the shooter including shooting position.

 

[dirtydeed]

In the interest of providing knowledge for everyone that is interested, I am posting the following links. In the first link, read post #2. The second link is for the website referenced by post #2 in the first link.

Forum -

winchestercollector.org

Choose the model number and enter the serial number. Your rifle was made in 1941.

Dates -

winchestercollector.org

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Awesome! Thank you so much.

 

[NorthwoodsLife]

I don't get it. The 30-06 and the .308 are about 30% more powerful than the 30-30. How can the kick from the 30-30 be more powerful than the 30-06 or the .308? Maybe that was your perception because you were kids at the time.

It wasn't the cartridge, it was the gun and the action type. Both affecting recoil.
We shot mostly 30'06 thru the M1 Garand, and 308 thru my HK91 and M1A. All semi autos.

As for weight, heft, and size: Compared to those semi-autos the Marlin 30-30 lever carbine felt like a Red Ryder BB gun.
The Marlin felt thin. Stock was thin. Butt was thin. It was about as long as a yard stick and it felt almost as light as one too.

But, it was absolutely beautiful to look at, and the action was smooth. I loved my semi autos but a quality lever action rifle / carbine is the definition of firearm-beautiful.

My youngest son has a Henry 22 lever. Gorgeous too. I might have to buy one for the mantle... and the occasional squirrel.

 

[Flintknapper]

Stock design also has a big effect on FELT recoil. The amount of drop at the heel and toe, the type of recoil pad if any, the design of cheek piece if any and even the stock material, wood versus synthetic.

Felt recoil versus foot pounds of recoil generated by a firing a given round oftentimes will be perceived quite differently when all these variables are figured in, including the physical shape , bone structure, size of the shooter including shooting position.

^^^^^

Agreed.

I can shoot my .338 Win Mag pretty much all day, not too much worse for wear.

But a couple of 'Dixie Tri-Ball' from my Defensive Shotgun will give me a near permanent 'flinch'.

 

[armylifer]

^^^^^

Agreed.

I can shoot my .338 Win Mag pretty much all day, not too much worse for wear.

But a couple of 'Dixie Tri-Ball' from my Defensive Shotgun will give me a near permanent 'flinch'.

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I have never heard of the Dixie Triball. That looks like the perfect home defense round. Now I have to look them up. Thanks for sharing.

 

[armylifer]

It wasn't the cartridge, it was the gun and the action type. Both affecting recoil.
We shot mostly 30'06 thru the M1 Garand, and 308 thru my HK91 and M1A. All semi autos.

As for weight, heft, and size: Compared to those semi-autos the Marlin 30-30 lever carbine felt like a Red Ryder BB gun.
The Marlin felt thin. Stock was thin. Butt was thin. It was about as long as a yard stick and it felt almost as light as one too.

But, it was absolutely beautiful to look at, and the action was smooth. I loved my semi autos but a quality lever action rifle / carbine is the definition of firearm-beautiful.

My youngest son has a Henry 22 lever. Gorgeous too. I might have to buy one for the mantle... and the occasional squirrel.

I get it now. Several people have shared their perspective and I have thought about all those points. They are all valid and taken as such.

I was looking from the point of view of when I first shot a 30-40 Craig and a 30-30 Winchester that my father owned. The 30-30 Winchester had a lesser recoil for me at 12 years old than the 30-40 Craig had. I was in the Army for a very long time and the weapons that I used had buffer Springs to reduce the recoil and so I was looking at it from that point of view. There are several people on this website that have very much experience with civilian weapons and the points that they made are well taken by me. I just never thought about those particular aspects of Civilian weapons. I know very well that semi-automatic rifles have much less recoil than lever action rifles. I thought that you were referring to bolt action rifles. That is my mistake and I apologize for it.

As for buying a Henry 22, you cannot go wrong. I own one and I love that rifle as much as I do my Marlin 1894. There is almost nothing as sweet as shooting a lever action rifle. The Henry rifles are the cream of the crop today. I do not think that there is a better rifle on the market in lever action than the Henry, no matter what caliber.

 

[Flintknapper]

I have never heard of the Dixie Triball. That looks like the perfect home defense round. Now I have to look them up. Thanks for sharing.

No longer being produced....I am pretty sure.

They are a specialty 'hunting round'. I would not recommend them for home/self defense.

I use 00 or #1 'Buckshot' in my home defense shotgun. I simply shot some Dixie Tri-Ball out of that shotgun because it has an extremely thick barrel and is cylinder bore. In that particular weapon (short and lightweight) the recoil is brutal.

You wouldn't want 3 (320 gr.) hard-cast projectiles over-penetrating a perp and several walls in your home.

 

[WFM]

I guess I spoke too soon. I do collect something that has little to no value.
It started with getting a hand me down
16 ga Long Tom shotgun from my grandfather. 36" barrel, as a teen it killed on both ends. Then as got older and made it a wall hanger in the living room. I would buy them as I ran across them.
My grandfather's was shipped to him USPS from the Sears catalog. The other side of the living room I have a 12ga Long Tom with 40" barrel. And a bunch more upstairs and downstairs in the house. Paying mostly $75-$100. Bucks apiece for them. Made by several different gun makers in the early 1900's and all branded Long Tom. Some have the makers name, others do not.