Gents....give me some guidance/opinions/experience here please.

[Flintknapper]

It is time for new rear tires on my L2350DT. But I have a few questions first...perhaps the members here can help me with.

A little background info on the tractor and its usage.

Its a compact tractor (25 hp), 4wd, gets no more than 50-60 hrs use a year (at most).

Tractor is 27 years old and is just now about to turn 1,000 hrs use. I use it mostly where my bigger tractor won't fit (down in the woods, between trees or for quick projects not requiring more HP).

My property is mostly Sandy Loam soil BUT I also have some wet, muddy spots and this is where the smaller tractor is most apt to have to go. With that in mind.....I am thinking I'd like to have a tire with a pretty deep tread.

BUT.....I don't know if I will regret that or not. The two tires I am looking at right now (open to other suggestions) both have tread depths of about 2". Plenty deep enough for mud and soft soil, but I also go across exposed roots sometimes, on occasion gravel roads on the ranch.

I am judicious in how I drive the tractor and try NOT to spin the tires. However I am wondering if the deeper treads are prone to 'chunking'. They won't do me much good if they tear away.

Both tires am I currently looking at are the same price, both 8 ply, both tube type, both same load capacity, but they have different tread patterns.

Looking at these, is there anything about one over the other that would make you choose that tire (or stay away from it).

Thank you in advance.

Flint.

Second tire type:

 

[GeoHorn]

I‘d go for the Turkey-Tread myself.

 

[Flintknapper]

I‘d go for the Turkey-Tread myself.

That one appears to have more tread surface area overall and certainly through the center, but doesn't look like it would 'self clean' in mud as well....but who knows.

I am on dry (though loose) ground MUCH more than I am in mud....but I really, really need to make it through the soft spots.

I'd wager the Road Crew (Turkey Tread) would last longer, but hell.....either one is going to outlast ME.

So I don't know. Would like to hear your reason(s) for preferring one over the other. Thanks.

 

[mcfarmall]

I'd buy the Korean ones.

 

[fried1765]

It is time for new rear tires on my L2350DT. But I have a few questions first...perhaps the members here can help me with.

A little background info on the tractor and its usage.

Its a compact tractor (25 hp), 4wd, gets no more than 50-60 hrs use a year (at most).

Tractor is 27 years old and is just now about to turn 1,000 hrs use. I use it mostly where my bigger tractor won't fit (down in the woods, between trees or for quick projects not requiring more HP).

My property is mostly Sandy Loam soil BUT I also have some wet, muddy spots and this is where the smaller tractor is most apt to have to go. With that in mind.....I am thinking I'd like to have a tire with a pretty deep tread.

BUT.....I don't know if I will regret that or not. The two tires I am looking at right now (open to other suggestions) both have tread depths of about 2". Plenty deep enough for mud and soft soil, but I also go across exposed roots sometimes, on occasion gravel roads on the ranch.

I am judicious in how I drive the tractor and try NOT to spin the tires. However I am wondering if the deeper treads are prone to 'chunking'. They won't do me much good if they tear away.

Both tires am I currently looking at are the same price, both 8 ply, both tube type, both same load capacity, but they have different tread patterns.

Looking at these, is there anything about one over the other that would make you choose that tire (or stay away from it).

Thank you in advance.

Flint.

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I would say,...... your guess is as good as mine!

 

[PoTreeBoy]

Tie breaker - which one's cheaper ?
The bars on the Tiron look really tall. I think the Turkeys will ride smoother on hard surface. Spin 'em fast enough they'll clean out!

 

[NCL4701]

Either should do well in mud/loose dirt.

Turkey likely would ride better if you ever road it. Looks like a pretty typical agricultural R1 like I’d see on a tractor in this area. Quite similar to what we had on the right rear (left rear was a R1 but different pattern) of our 9N except not half worn out.

Korea may not technically be a rice paddy tire, but it’s getting close. Might limit your speed roading, and it’s likely to tear up the ground more than the Turkey tire. But it’s also likely superior in a swamp.

Unless the manufacturer is using very poor quality rubber compound, I wouldn’t expect either of them to chunk out or rip lugs off.

Comparing the two for mud shedding ability I’d suspect they’re similar enough the amount of sidewall flex has more to do with any differentiation than tread pattern. A R1 style tractor tire should have a pretty flexible sidewall. If one is a radial and one isn’t, I’d lean toward the radial for traction and mud shedding although it may not make a huge difference on a machine that size. Running tubes, you should be able to keep pressure low enough to keep them squishy for more bars on the ground and better mud shedding.

Depends on what you want. Max performance in the swamp with more damage to the ground and potentially limited road speed = Korea. Good (but not as good) performance in the swamp with a bit more balanced all around performance = Turkey.

Just an opinion, but that’s what you asked for.

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

Are you doing all 4?
If your only doing rears, DO NOT go with the bottom tread, as it will change the ratio outside the range where you want it.
I personally don't like rice tread (lower tire), they don't clean any better than the top tread.
They are rough on you and on the tractor (lots of bounce).

 

[Clint from Flint]

That one appears to have more tread surface area overall and certainly through the center, but doesn't look like it would 'self clean' in mud as well....but who knows.

I am on dry (though loose) ground MUCH more than I am in mud....but I really, really need to make it through the soft spots.

I'd wager the Road Crew (Turkey Tread) would last longer, but hell.....either one is going to outlast ME.

So I don't know. Would like to hear your reason(s) for preferring one over the other. Thanks.

Hey Flint...if you buy those from Turkey U will have turkey tracks all over your property...that can be a good thing around Thanksgiving time

 

[imnukensc]

I ain't gonna tell ya what tire to buy except buy something made in America if you can.

 

[Flintknapper]

Tie breaker - which one's cheaper ?
The bars on the Tiron look really tall. I think the Turkeys will ride smoother on hard surface. Spin 'em fast enough they'll clean out!

Cost is nearly identical. Agreed the Turkey's would ride smoother on hard surface, but I'm almost never on a hard surface (depending on how we define that).

 

[Flintknapper]

I ain't gonna tell ya what tire to buy except buy something made in America if you can.

I'd like that (Buy American) but when it comes to tractor tires....I've discovered very few are manufactured State Side and fewer still with a tread depth/pattern I am after. But yes, I share your sentiment.

And as stated from the onset, I am open to suggestions.

 

[Flintknapper]

Hey Flint...if you buy those from Turkey U will have turkey tracks all over your property...that can be a good thing around Thanksgiving time

Nicely played.........

 

[Flintknapper]

Are you doing all 4?
If your only doing rears, DO NOT go with the bottom tread, as it will change the ratio outside the range where you want it.
I personally don't like rice tread (lower tire), they don't clean any better than the top tread.
They are rough on you and on the tractor (lots of bounce).

Rears only. My fronts are new "well last summer'. So maybe 35 hrs on them, no appreciable wear.

They are about 29.25" in diameter or roughly 92" Rolling Circumference.

The rear tires that came on the tractor are Firestone (about 43" diameter), so neither tire I am looking at are an exact fit. The 'turkey' tire is about an inch shorter and the Tiron an inch over.

So maybe something else is in order? A Carlisle Farm Specialist R1 rear tire (8 ply) is a good match for the OEM diameter and rolling circumference....but doesn't have the tread depth (1.25") I think I would prefer. IDK.

 

[Flintknapper]

Either should do well in mud/loose dirt.

Turkey likely would ride better if you ever road it. Looks like a pretty typical agricultural R1 like I’d see on a tractor in this area. Quite similar to what we had on the right rear (left rear was a R1 but different pattern) of our 9N except not half worn out.

Korea may not technically be a rice paddy tire, but it’s getting close. Might limit your speed roading, and it’s likely to tear up the ground more than the Turkey tire. But it’s also likely superior in a swamp.

Unless the manufacturer is using very poor quality rubber compound, I wouldn’t expect either of them to chunk out or rip lugs off.

Comparing the two for mud shedding ability I’d suspect they’re similar enough the amount of sidewall flex has more to do with any differentiation than tread pattern. A R1 style tractor tire should have a pretty flexible sidewall. If one is a radial and one isn’t, I’d lean toward the radial for traction and mud shedding although it may not make a huge difference on a machine that size. Running tubes, you should be able to keep pressure low enough to keep them squishy for more bars on the ground and better mud shedding.

Depends on what you want. Max performance in the swamp with more damage to the ground and potentially limited road speed = Korea. Good (but not as good) performance in the swamp with a bit more balanced all around performance = Turkey.

Just an opinion, but that’s what you asked for.

Yes good info and opinion. I'm probably 85% on pasture/sandy loam, 5% travel on gravel road and 10% fairly deep (10") mud/red clay. Two wheel drive most of the time....but when I need 4wd (other than loader work) I really need it because I'm likely way back in the woods.

Maybe I should be looking at an electric winch and second battery....huh?

 

[Flintknapper]

Current rear tires have worn to less than 1/2 their original depth and its really starting to affect performance.

Its possible that I am overshooting on tread 'depth' and that tread pattern (number of bars and shape) might be more important.

I haven't any experience with really deep lug tractor tires so that is part of the reason for my soliciting opinions and experience.

 

[jyoutz]

I'd like that (By American) but when it comes to tractor tires....I've discovered very few are manufactured State Side and fewer still with a tread depth/pattern I am after. But yes, I share your sentiment.

And as stated from the onset, I am open to suggestions.

Have you checked with a truck and construction equipment tire dealer? They deal in these type of tires everyday and can order just about anything available.

 

[rc51stierhoff]

If the tires are made of same/similar compounds, then I think it comes down to traction, comfort, of country of origin preference. From the pics, sure looks like Korea has the traction. Comfort, I think it’s a Turkey trot, unless maybe one tire is a lot softer than the other but I would bet they are not too different….I am not sure on an ag tire but you could compare the numbers on the sidewalls if worried. Country of origin comes down to which ever cuisine or holiday or whatever you prefer.

 

[fried1765]

I ain't gonna tell ya what tire to buy except buy something made in America if you can.

Good luck with that!

 

[D2Cat]

Cut a coupe of grooves in the bars of the rears and call it good. Cut them 1/4" wide and 3/8" or so deep. You have nothing to loose.

Those deep lug tires were designed for rice paddies. You run them on anything but mud they'll bounce your gizzard out.