Flat face coupler won't connect.

[jmf78]

I had to replace a blown hydraulic line on my BX. Now, I can't connect the flat faced connector. I think the rigid part of the connection is hitting part of the cab not allowing the connector to go in straight.. Does anyone here have a potential remedy for this?

 

[rkidd]

I had to replace a blown hydraulic line on my BX. Now, I can't connect the flat faced connector. I think the rigid part of the connection is hitting part of the cab not allowing the connector to go in straight.. Does anyone here have a potential remedy for this?

Looks like if you had to you could loosen the bolt holding the bracket that holds the bottom hose to help align things. Sometimes it can help to pull down on the locking collar on the bottom hose when you try to put them together.

 

[jmf78]

Looks like if you had to you could loosen the bolt holding the bracket that holds the bottom hose to help align things.

Yeah, that would be a short term solution. Or maybe just leave that bolt loose for connecting the backhoe. Or just loosen it everytime. That won't be too bad.

Sometimes it can help to pull down on the locking collar on the bottom hose when you try to put them together.

I tried that. No dice.

 

[Fordtech86]

Where did your original hose blow at? Pictures in your other post show the crimped fitting on the hose appears to be hitting the cab much like the issue you are having now. It also looked like the hose was possibly rubbing the top link pivot or the top link was pulling on it when raised (looked really close in the pics). Think you need to route the hose different at both spots or it may be a never ending battle

 

[Fordtech86]

Also think the dealer should have noticed that when they put the cab on it.

 

[D2Cat]

Maybe you can remove the bolt holding the clamp at the connector. Then put a thick washer under the angled bracket to get it further from the cab.

 

[Fordtech86]

D2 beat me to it lol,but I also thought if you unbolt that bracket and put it on the other side of whatever is over it might get u enough clearance.

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[SidecarFlip]

Why not remove the male coupler and install a swivel elbow and then the coupler??

I spy teflon tape on the fittings. Big no-no with hydraulics. Always paste, never tape.

Never heard of flat faced couplers on anything but skid steers. Sure they aren't Pioneer?

I don't care for the vertical interface anyway. Just an invitation to get dirt in the coupler if not connected. I prefer my interfaces to be horizontal.

Just my thoughts on the situation.

 

[jmf78]

Where did your original hose blow at? Pictures in your other post show the crimped fitting on the hose appears to be hitting the cab much like the issue you are having now. It also looked like the hose was possibly rubbing the top link pivot or the top link was pulling on it when raised (looked really close in the pics). Think you need to route the hose different at both spots or it may be a never ending battle

I'm not sure but, now that you mention that, I think you're right. That probably was the point of failure.

Also think the dealer should have noticed that when they put the cab on it.

Yeah....agreed.

Maybe you can remove the bolt holding the clamp at the connector. Then put a thick washer under the angled bracket to get it further from the cab.

Good call! Will try that tomorrow.

D2 beat me to it lol,but I also thought if you unbolt that bracket and put it on the other side of whatever is over it might get u enough clearance.

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Why not remove the male coupler and install a swivel elbow and then the coupler??

I spy teflon tape on the fittings. Big no-no with hydraulics. Always paste, never tape.

Never heard of flat faced couplers on anything but skid steers. Sure they aren't Pioneer?

I don't care for the vertical interface anyway. Just an invitation to get dirt in the coupler if not connected. I prefer my interfaces to be horizontal.

Just my thoughts on the situation.

Not tape. It's paste. I think.

Flat faced couplers are on the BX80 series.

This connection is always in line. It connects to the tractor or backhoe. Never not connected during operation.

Thanks for your help guys!!!

 

[D2Cat]

It's amazing how you get answers when you have pictures of the situation! They really help.

Flip, flat face couplers are very common. On equipment that has hyd. cylinders the mfgr. will offer either as a choice..FF or Pioneer style.

 

[SidecarFlip]

It's amazing how you get answers when you have pictures of the situation! They really help.

Flip, flat face couplers are very common. On equipment that has hyd. cylinders the mfgr. will offer either as a choice..FF or Pioneer style.

Here in JD country, everything is Pioneer, so are both my Kubby's. Now my Bobcat Skid has flat faced couplers.

Think I'd install a right angle swivel fitting on the hose and then the male end. Eliminates the hose rub issue and allows the hose to move as well. Flat faced or Pioneer makes no difference.


I can see an advantage in a flat face in as much as you don't need a dust cap and no recess to collect crap. Like I said, have them on the bobcat but never used them. Just the bucket.

 

[jmf78]

It's amazing how you get answers when you have pictures of the situation! They really help..

As much info as possible helps to bring a resolution.

 

[rentthis]

With the hoses separated, can you move the center of the bottom hose down against the spring? If there is pressure on that hose, it won't connect. Wrap a rag around the fitting and tap it with a screw driver and hammer to release pressure in the bottom hose. if that's the problem, you will get a small gush of oil and it will clip together.

 

[1964vette]

Newbie here,I have a BX23s both hoses that connect to this fixed port have 90 degree elbows.?? Just my observation

 

[jmf78]

With the hoses separated, can you move the center of the bottom hose down against the spring? If there is pressure on that hose, it won't connect. Wrap a rag around the fitting and tap it with a screw driver and hammer to release pressure in the bottom hose. if that's the problem, you will get a small gush of oil and it will clip together.

I will give this a shot.

Newbie here,I have a BX23s both hoses that connect to this fixed port have 90 degree elbows.?? Just my observation

Yeah. That would make more sense. Unfortunately mine is straight.

 

[jmf78]

With the hoses separated, can you move the center of the bottom hose down against the spring? If there is pressure on that hose, it won't connect. Wrap a rag around the fitting and tap it with a screw driver and hammer to release pressure in the bottom hose. if that's the problem, you will get a small gush of oil and it will clip together.

The moving parts on both male amd female fittings move easily. I just cant get the last little bit in.

Not sure i have a wrench to get to that nut mentioned earlier either. Without removint the quick disconnect that is.

 

[jmf78]

Newbie here,I have a BX23s both hoses that connect to this fixed port have 90 degree elbows.?? Just my observation

Taking a 90 off of the backhoe. Thabks for the idea!!

 

[jmf78]

I'm able to get the connect that I'd taken off of the backhoe in with no issue so I think it is definitely an interference issue. The problem now is the line that I need to connect has male threads and the 90 is made by a male to male 90. So that plan is shot down.

I'm now thinking about just getting another female connector to come off of that 90 to make my connection. Anybody see anything wrong with that line of thought?

 

[jmf78]

Newbie here,I have a BX23s both hoses that connect to this fixed port have 90 degree elbows.?? Just my observation

Can you send me a picture of your connection here? I just modified mine to be on a 90° elbow and ended up bending the steel line that the fixed connector connects to when i raised the 3 point hitch. Also, does anybody have a part number for this line? It's not leaking but I don't like leaving it this way. Or, is it ok to bend this line back?

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

Well I kept quiet and wish I won't have.

I wanted to suggest you just bend the line so that the Quick connect fitting plane would clear the back of the cab.
In other words bend the line so that the fitting pointed towards the rear a little.

You should have no issue with bending the line back and then a little farther so it will clear the cab, the lines are made from soft steel giving them the ability to not just crack from sudden changes in hydraulic pressure.