which diesel fuel is best?

[filix]

I know this a stupid question. But it gets kind of confusing. At the different gas stations in my area there is at least 3 if not 4 kinds of diesel. Off road, on road, in between. Yellow nozzel, green nozzel. ect... I was using the green in my B7800. Thanks for the help in advance. Filix.

 

[Bulldog777]

Mine says "use only low sulphur diesel". It's not off road diesel. Look near your fuel cap, or your owner's manual.

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[85Hokie]

I know this a stupid question. But it gets kind of confusing. At the different gas stations in my area there is at least 3 if not 4 kinds of diesel. Off road, on road, in between. Yellow nozzel, green nozzel. ect... I was using the green in my B7800. Thanks for the help in advance. Filix.

There is NO difference other the a dye in it or the cost of it!
Now.....if you were to go back a dozen years or more, there would be, OFF road diesel had a higher sulfur content than it does now. Depending on HOW old your machine is, by the off road diesel and then add a lubricator to it. Sulfur was a great lubricator for injectors and everything else!! But it pollutes the air!

Here is some info gathered from WIKI (pertaining to north america)

concentration of sulfur in diesel fuel produced or imported for use in off-road engines shall not exceed 500 ppm from 1 June 2007 until 31 May 2010, and 15 ppm after that date.

concentration of sulfur in diesel fuel sold for use in off-road engines shall not exceed 500 ppm from 1 October 2007 until 30 September 2010, and 15 ppm after that date.

concentration of sulfur in diesel fuel sold in the northern supply area for use in off-road engines shall not exceed 500 ppm from 1 December 2008 until 30 November 2011, and 15 ppm after that date.

concentration of sulfur in diesel fuel produced or imported for use in vessel engines or railway locomotive engines shall not exceed 500 parts per million (ppm) from 1 June 2007 until 31 May 2012, and 15 ppm after that date.

 

[D2Cat]

"There is NO difference other the a dye in it or the cost of it!" 85Hokie is right on.

But, to answer your question, which diesel fuel is best.... I usually buy from a Phillips 66 station, because it's closer!

 

[skeets]

Your just not paying the road tax on off road is all

 

[bucktail]

We've usually got road diesel, and a few stations sell kerosene. Get more rural, and there's off road diesel sometimes as well. The kerosene isn't good engine fuel. You used to be able to get straight #1 in the winter, but I haven't seen it in quite a while. You just get winter blend in the winter.

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

I know this a stupid question. But it gets kind of confusing. At the different gas stations in my area there is at least 3 if not 4 kinds of diesel. Off road, on road, in between. Yellow nozzel, green nozzel. ect... I was using the green in my B7800. Thanks for the help in advance. Filix.

Filix, Your in Arundel, England right?

If you are then you probably do not have the same fuels we do in the states.
Normally here it's #1, #2, Bio Diesel and Off road (off road will be dyed red and change per the season or local to be either a summer or winter blend, and it is cheaper because you are not paying over the road tax).
Ask a local station what they offer as it varies from area to area.

 

[filix]

Thanks for all the responses. I live in new england U.S.A. So its all the same? except maybe in the winter up here in the north. Filix

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

Most gas stations don't give you a choice on summer or winter blend they just change depending on the season.

 

[Redlands]

Beware using bio diesel, many engines can not use it safely and the labels are often times small and not real noticeable on the pumps

 

[Bulldog777]

Okay, now my dumb question. If a gas station sold 87 in the 93 tank, wouldn't that be illegal? So the ONLY difference is the dye? Why would they even bother with dye, except off-road/no tax diesel, in the different diesel fuels?
Okay, that was two questions......

 

[D2Cat]

The dye in diesel fuel is to leave traces in your tank and fuel system that is traceable. Inspection probably most often take place at livestock auctions. Many farmers are there buying and selling livestock and haul the animals in trailers being pulled by their trucks. If they take fuel from a storage tank for off road (dyed) and the troopers check, your fine will break you of repeating the offense! And they don't ask, they just start dipping tanks!!

The idea of not paying road tax is because the fuel is to be used in off road vehicles. Off road vehicles are not wearing/degrading the roads which are maintained by road fuel tax.

Your question about grades of gasoline...I would surly say if the product is mislabeled when the state comes to inspect the owner will be notified, and penalized. That is why the state inspect gas pumps, to be sure the customer is getting the correct amount and type of product.

 

[Bulldog777]

Gotcha, I figured the tax was the off road issue. But it sounded like there are several different dyes. I was only aware of two. Maybe a different blend up North due to low temps? Maybe the winter blends are different ?

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[North Idaho Wolfman]

Gotcha, I figured the tax was the off road issue. But it sounded like there are several different dyes. I was only aware of two. Maybe a different blend up North due to low temps? Maybe the winter blends are different ?

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Red dyed fuel has NO road tax, it's off road use only.
It doesn't matter if it's #1 or #2.

 

[NEPA Guy]

The best diesel fuel, is the cheapest diesel fuel.

 

[WFM]

Are you like in Arundel Maine ???Fix your location so we know where the hell you are. I'm in Maine, we have "on road low sulfur", or "off road diesel" . So where are you seeing 3 or 4 kinds ???

 

[Kurtee]

The best diesel fuel, is the cheapest diesel fuel.

We are all looking for lowest cost which is great, but pay attention to turnover. I look for a fuel stop that sells lots of fuel. That way it stays fresh and has less chance of problems.

As far as bio diesel goes, soy based bio diesel does not pose issues. In one article I read it was stated that the soy replaces the lubrication lost to the removal of the sulfur in diesel fuel. I had one customer put 100% soy diesel in his bulk tank and never told his drivers who never noticed any difference.

 

[lilguy]

Looking at new tractor, dealer strongly suggested I stay away from Biodiesel.
Modern tractors are not as forgiving as my 30+ year old units I'm replacing.
One Mobil dealer within an hour of me carries non bio low sulfur. This is the issue
that concerns me. Tech says Kubota frowns on Bio when it comes to any warrenty issues. So I can get non bio, just want to hear you folks experiences with Bio in new tractors.

 

[skeets]

Hes not telling you a story, old diesels run on BIO but you need to add some stuff i forget what it is. Anyway, even if you have to use over the road fuel use it not much point is spending 20 bucks in gas to save 30 cents a gallon on off road, if you get my meaning

 

[200mph]

I see Skeet's lives in PA, therefore the spread between On-road and Off-road diesel is a lot more than 20 cents/gal. State tax alone is a $0.75 per gallon, so it can add up.

If there are two pumps at a station. One selling diesel at $2.75 and the other is $2.00. Which one do you pick?

Below is an example from one supplier....