Tractor shed for L3901 - do you have dirt or ccrt floor?

[ArtinAz]

I ordered my L3901 tractor with a 4in1 bucket, box blade cutter (BB1266), and eventually will have BH77 backhoe after shed is built.

I was wondering if anyone has a dirt or ccrt floor for their shed. For economysake, I was thing of having a dirt floor with gravel added for more stability. Any thoughts / recommendations on this?

 

[Fordtech86]

Mine lives under a carport on gravel. Would love to build a shop one day.

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[mickeyd]

I park mine in the old horse barn along with my mower and implements. Since one half of the barn was dirt to walk and ride horses, that is where the equipment is now.

I took out half of the stables on one side and now use it for my shop.

 

[SidecarFlip]

No shed here, too small. I have a 45 x 16 x 100 foot truss arch building with an engineered sand floor because we erected it on a grade (with retaining wall). Have no issue with sand, drains well and other than tracking it into my tractors when getting in (whisk broom takes care of that), in 15+ years never been an issue.

Don't want concrete, it cracks and gravel might be an option if I wasn't happy with the sand.

Being a farmer and paying enough real estate as it is. I prefer a truss arch building with a sand floor because in this state at least, it's considered a moveable building and as such is not taxable.

Which is some thing everyone needs to consider when erecting a 'tractor home' Stick built structures with rat walls are considered a permanent structure and can be taxed accordingly (depending on your state law of course) and don't assume just because you erect one without a building permit that it won't be taxed because your local assessor is always looking at various properties for new revenue. It's their job.

 

[ArtinAz]

Mine lives under a carport on gravel. Would love to build a shop one day.

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That's the type of shed I was thinking of but with walls. Do you keep your backhoe attached?

 

[ArtinAz]

No shed here, too small. I have a 45 x 16 x 100 foot truss arch building with an engineered sand floor because we erected it on a grade (with retaining wall). Have no issue with sand, drains well and other than tracking it into my tractors when getting in (whisk broom takes care of that), in 15+ years never been an issue.

Don't want concrete, it cracks and gravel might be an option if I wasn't happy with the sand.

Being a farmer and paying enough real estate as it is. I prefer a truss arch building with a sand floor because in this state at least, it's considered a moveable building and as such is not taxable.

Which is some thing everyone needs to consider when erecting a 'tractor home' Stick built structures with rat walls are considered a permanent structure and can be taxed accordingly (depending on your state law of course) and don't assume just because you erect one without a building permit that it won't be taxed because your local assessor is always looking at various properties for new revenue. It's their job.

Thanks.
I live in rural America about 15 miles from town on 42+ acres and totally off grid & bad road leading to my ppty. I don't think any assessor wants to drive out here.
My ground is super hard (clay) when dry & like a mud bog when wet. I wasn't sure I wanted ccrt due to cost so needed some good input on this.

 

[GreensvilleJay]

All my A-C D-14s have there own 9 by 12 shed, with gravel floors. ANy bigger and I'd need building permits($100s), eng. dwgs($1,000), eng stamp( $700+) and NO complaints from neighbours.....
I'd really like everything to be under one roof but...that ain't happening..

Sheds only cost me 500 Canucks, sitting on 4by8 pavers, been 5-6 years now...
Jay

 

[Fordtech86]

I usually put it on to store it. When the weather is good and dry I will leave it sit out in the yard. I do a lot of swapping between the hoe and 3 pt implements. Been a little wet here lately so I have it on to keep it out of the mud.

 

[ArtinAz]

I usually put it on to store it. When the weather is good and dry I will leave it sit out in the yard. I do a lot of swapping between the hoe and 3 pt implements. Been a little wet here lately so I have it on to keep it out of the mud.

That's what I was thinking, to keep it on for storage. How long is tractor with backhoe attached? Need to see what size shed I'll need so it can store the tractor with fel, backhoe, box cutter (bb1266), and a 21'x7' A-Frame camper.

 

[CaveCreekRay]

The place I bought down the hill from you was a horse property that came with a pretty nice horsey setup. I turned the stalls in to storage and park my tractor on the concrete pull-through inside the building, just outside of the stalls.

We have a clay layer down here and caliche (natural concrete layer common to AZ) as well. My barn used to drain and the water would get between the slab and caliche layer and my tools would rust in my workshop. I improved my runoff with drains and no more humidity.

The question is, where is the nearest concrete plant from you and what do they charge. I noticed your trailer... What are you doing for security when you are on the road for a couple of weeks? Sure would be nice to put siding on your shed and a door. My key operates your tractor like your ignition key operates mine. If you concrete a long pad you could park your trailer on concrete as well.

Gravel is not cheap and if you drop anything like a screw, it's often game over. Your call.

 

[Fordtech86]

That's what I was thinking, to keep it on for storage. How long is tractor with backhoe attached? Need to see what size shed I'll need so it can store the tractor with fel, backhoe, box cutter (bb1266), and a 21'x7' A-Frame camper.

Just measured it, it is just over 18 ft from front edge of loader bucket (has toothbar that adds a couple inches) to the back of the backhoe in its stowed position. My tractor is the previous series as yours, I don’t know if the dimensions changed much with the added emission equipment on yours. I’m pretty sure you are getting the same LA525 loader I have and the BH77 will be the same.

 

[Fordtech86]

The place I bought down the hill from you was a horse property that came with a pretty nice horsey setup. I turned the stalls in to storage and park my tractor on the concrete pull-through inside the building, just outside of the stalls.

We have a clay layer down here and caliche (natural concrete layer common to AZ) as well. My barn used to drain and the water would get between the slab and caliche layer and my tools would rust in my workshop. I improved my runoff with drains and no more humidity.

The question is, where is the nearest concrete plant from you and what do they charge. I noticed your trailer... What are you doing for security when you are on the road for a couple of weeks? Sure would be nice to put siding on your shed and a door. My key operates your tractor like your ignition key operates mine. If you concrete a long pad you could park your trailer on concrete as well.

Gravel is not cheap and if you drop anything like a screw, it's often game over. Your call.

Ray, I think you are referring to my pic and not the OP’s. The camper is a friends and will be gone next week lol. Can’t wait! As for security, I don’t worry much where I’m at.

 

[ArtinAz]

The place I bought down the hill from you was a horse property that came with a pretty nice horsey setup. I turned the stalls in to storage and park my tractor on the concrete pull-through inside the building, just outside of the stalls.

We have a clay layer down here and caliche (natural concrete layer common to AZ) as well. My barn used to drain and the water would get between the slab and caliche layer and my tools would rust in my workshop. I improved my runoff with drains and no more humidity.

The question is, where is the nearest concrete plant from you and what do they charge. I noticed your trailer... What are you doing for security when you are on the road for a couple of weeks? Sure would be nice to put siding on your shed and a door. My key operates your tractor like your ignition key operates mine. If you concrete a long pad you could park your trailer on concrete as well.

Gravel is not cheap and if you drop anything like a screw, it's often game over. Your call.

When I had my floor poured for my garage, it cost $20k for a 30x40, which I thought was quite expensive. Was hoping to go the cheaper route with steel shed & sidings.
What trailer are you talking about, my camper or were you looking at someone else's post? I used to live in Chandler & now in Snowflake since May.

 

[fruitcakesa]

The M sits in a dirt floored drive shed off the rear of my barn with open ends and lumber, pallets and roof metal leaning along and up the open side wall. The entire barn and shed are timber framed on 8x8 PT timbers sitting on sand and 3/4 crush stone. My town still taxes the structure even though it is notx hrd founded to the ground

 

[NWAZL3560]

I'm fortunate since the property we bought came with a large steel garage with concrete floor. I'm older, and concrete is a huge bonus for me since I can move the implements around on a dolly by myself to put them on the tractor.

 

[SidecarFlip]

Thanks.
I live in rural America about 15 miles from town on 42+ acres and totally off grid & bad road leading to my ppty. I don't think any assessor wants to drive out here.
My ground is super hard (clay) when dry & like a mud bog when wet. I wasn't sure I wanted ccrt due to cost so needed some good input on this.

So do my wife and I. We have a working farm at the end of the powerline on the end of a long dirt road that I have to plow in the winter if I want to get out so I'm in the same boat just like you

However, this is the 21st century and assessors don't come 'visit; your place anymore. They use aerial photography aka: Goggle maps, powerline photography and other air borne tools to see your property and outbuildings and then they compare older pictures with recent ones and if a building suddenly springs up, then they may make a visit or they may assess through the photographs only.

You cannot hide today, big brother is always watching.

When I put up my big Clearspan years ago. I didn't say anything to the township because I knew it wasn't a taxable structure under Michigan law but about a year later n assessor did come out and look because it showed up on an aerial survey.

 

[SidecarFlip]

The M sits in a dirt floored drive shed off the rear of my barn with open ends and lumber, pallets and roof metal leaning along and up the open side wall. The entire barn and shed are timber framed on 8x8 PT timbers sitting on sand and 3/4 crush stone. My town still taxes the structure even though it is notx hrd founded to the ground

Some do and some don't but here in Michigan it's not up to the local entities to set the rules, it's a state thing. I just operate within those parameters.

Did that for my wife when she was raising draft horses too. Put up a 6 stall horse barn that was entirely moveable (took a couple big Steigers to move it) but it was not fastened to the ground in any way so no RE taxes.

Horses are long gone but the cattle sure like it.

 

[biglefty]

When I had my floor poured for my garage, it cost $20k for a 30x40, which I thought was quite expensive. Was hoping to go the cheaper route with steel shed & sidings.
What trailer are you talking about, my camper or were you looking at someone else's post? I used to live in Chandler & now in Snowflake since May.

20k for a 30x40 concrete floor is not only expensive its down right robbery. I just got 2 prices to have a 30x30 floor done 5" thick with wire both at between 4500 to 5000. I thought that was a lot now I feel like what a deal.

 

[ArtinAz]

So do my wife and I. We have a working farm at the end of the powerline on the end of a long dirt road that I have to plow in the winter if I want to get out so I'm in the same boat just like you

However, this is the 21st century and assessors don't come 'visit; your place anymore. They use aerial photography aka: Goggle maps, powerline photography and other air borne tools to see your property and outbuildings and then they compare older pictures with recent ones and if a building suddenly springs up, then they may make a visit or they may assess through the photographs only.

You cannot hide today, big brother is always watching.

When I put up my big Clearspan years ago. I didn't say anything to the township because I knew it wasn't a taxable structure under Michigan law but about a year later n assessor did come out and look because it showed up on an aerial survey.

Lol, I know what you mean. I had my home built end of May this year & looked at Google maps in September, I saw my house.

 

[K.P.]

I have a neighbor that used asphalt grindings in his pole building as well as entry ramp. I believe he paid $150 per 8 cubic foot load. Delivery cost more than the grindings. He used a tamper to compact it and it’s a pretty solid surface.