Thieves Can Steal Modern Cars By Tapping Into a Headlight Wire

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yawn... just another example as to why CANbus is a PITA....
A $1 microchip can access it no problem.....
 
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I am waiting for the "interconnected cars", when a hacker commands all of them at the same time to make a hard left turn. o_O
 

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Yeah, automakers couldn't be bothered to use encryption or any other types of security on the internal networks, that might make them difficult to work on.
 

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It's not 'they couldn't be bothered' more of a 'logistics' nightmare. Say you buy a car that has 'internal security via encryption'. Only the owner ( you ) wold have the access encryption 'key' to your car. Local dealer won't, local mechanic won't,the OBD-II reader won't, let alone the guy in the small town where you're broken down doesn't. Then it's not just ONE key... EACH CANbus device would have to have it's own key, and they all have to be allowed to talk to each other, on various 'levels' of access, can't have a 'master' or 'supervisor' key as that defeats the whole 'security' aspect. Then there's what kind of encryption tech do you use. DES128, DES256 are easy to hack with today's fast computers, so a portable PC can do it. Heck with wireless being in everything new, you don't need to be IN the car,can be done remotely.
99.999% of all 'data' files on a PC or smart device are not encrypted, so why should a car be ?
 

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Almost all auto manufacturers are protecting their cars with secure gateway modules. It's been working well so far. Like anything though, I'm sure it'll be defeated eventually.
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I am waiting for the "interconnected cars", when a hacker commands all of them at the same time to make a hard left turn. o_O
I want an always online car so the manufacturers can turn off functions at will so they can charge subscription fees to use the items you paid for.


This is theft IMHO

When apple starts selling cars they will slow down when an update is available. Then they will suddenly stop working just out of warranty and you will just go buy a new one and throw away the old one.