Is the problem both forward and reverse? As I asked before is the PTO engaged or disengaged when this occurs? If you lift the travel pedal and lightly apply again does travel come back?
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Follow the troubleshooting in the manual.
I dug up the manual and looked at the diagram. I see where the HST gets its oil from now. Makes more sense what the poster above indicated RE the PTO and charge pressure.
14 is the power steering pump, which pressure not used by power steering is directed at the PTO clutch and then through the filter, and into the HST. I would assume you already replaced the filter. If power steering is OK and PTO engages all the time, but still have loss of power, I still suspect the PRV is the cause. There could also be a restriction between the filter and HST.
I dug up the manual and looked at the diagram. I see where the HST gets its oil from now. Makes more sense what the poster above indicated RE the PTO and charge pressure.
14 is the power steering pump, which pressure not used by power steering is directed at the PTO clutch and then through the filter, and into the HST. I would assume you already replaced the filter. If power steering is OK and PTO engages all the time, but still have loss of power, I still suspect the PRV is the cause. There could also be a restriction between the filter and HST.
PTO seems to rob some power
Tractor can not overcome the brakes in either direction.
I removed both relief valves, nothing remarkable about them!
Why one is $250 and other is $140, no noticeable difference. Spring is the only thing that could be different. I can mic them and lay side by side to compare? I’m not sure if there’s any benefit to be gained from that but I will probably do that tomorrow.
I tried adjusting in both directions, got worse when I loosened or released spring tension and increased its length!
seemed to be a slight bit better when I tightened the tension and shortened it.
My observation was, make it longer to push it in deeper, if you tighten it, it becomes shorter and I believe it would allow fluid to bypass sooner.
The spring that is behind it is a very weak spring that pushes it in the hole.
When theplug is removed, the spring just pushes the plug out. I just touched my megnent to it and the valve main body came out. Less then 2 ounces of fluid came out of each hole.
Tractor has power with very little rpm, above idle it drops out. If power drops out the pedal is free, only mechanical tension on it.
It feels like it dropped out of gear when it happens, the tractor just lunges and starts to slow unless I’m on a hill and then it rolls free fwd or backwards.
it feels like something breaks every time.
But it doesn’t! All I do is release the pedal and drop the rpm and it kicks back in! I also come to a full stop so nothing in the drive train is damaged, it is not a “Shift on the fly” tractor lol
Steering has gotten worse over the last couple of days.
3pt still unaffected
Bucket power is good, just very slow because rpm is low and it can be jerky at times.
I might need a big white board to lay it all out!
I own the manual, I have ran troubleshooting tables. Not seemed to resolve anything?
I only have a post hold driller and a bush hog that uses the PTO and also a landscape mower sorry. I have use the postal driller without any issues. I’m going to use it again tomorrow.
Today I used a ripper to lay UF wire, it was slow but it got it done.
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If power steering is failing, I think you solved your problem. The pump is bad. According to the diagrams I posted above, power steering is supplied by an engine driven pump that is inline with the power beyond pump that drives the FEL and 3PH. The power steering pump also supplies pressure for the HST to function.
Since the power steering is before the HST, check pressure going to the steering unit first, if good pressure, then it could very well be the steering gear causing it.
I didn't catch that the power steering isn't working, I thought it was, sorry to mislead.
Since the power steering is before the HST, check pressure going to the steering unit first, if good pressure, then it could very well be the steering gear causing it.
I didn't catch that the power steering isn't working, I thought it was, sorry to mislead.
Please see comments above.
I still see a common theme in the charge pump circuit. You may either have insufficient flow to the charge circuit or internal leakage. Either way you still need gauges in the forward and reverse test ports to diagnose the problem