Rollover! Bucket arms or mounts bent. Looking for advice

[Mark_BX25D]

Well, it's allll better!

I got the pin yesterday, and popped it in place this morning. I had to start it up and move the bucket and curl it a bit, and it just fell into place. I inserted the pin, and did a few raises and lowering of the bucket all the way up and down, and everything looks fine!

I htink I may take the loader off and carefully inspect the mirror pin on the other side, just to make sure it's not tweaked, but it looks like I got off easy on this one.

Boy AND loader intact. That's a win!

 

[ki4dog]

Roll it the other way

 

[SidecarFlip]

No one ever runs either of my M9's but me, not even my wife but then she don't know how to shift them anyway (both are gear drive, hydraulic shuttle), both have loaders and neither have loaded rear tires. I don't want loaded rears. The loaded rears on my tractors equate to a helluva lot of weight per tire (over 1000 pounds) each and that weight bearing down on my hay plants crushes them and reduces yield plus it compacts the ground they roll over and any tire work then becomes the realm of the ag tire repair truck which isn't an issue as I don't screw with them anyway, they are almost as tall as I am (6 feet).

I do run cast centers on both units and the cast centers add about 500 pounds to each side, which is more than adequate to handle the 1000-1200 pound round bales I move in the field and load on trailers and if I feel I need a bit more, I put on a rear 3 point bale spear and add a round bale to the back end for 'temporary ballast' that can be removed in a flash.

I never operate either of my units on a side slope or a hill of any sort. Tractors, by inherent design have a higher CG and even more so with a cab and the lack of any suspension acerbates a roll over condition, IOW, over in a flash. I never put myself in that scenario. Ever.

If I have an uphill or downhill scenario (like say a ditch bank), I always approach it obliquely, never any other way. Don't have an issue going down or up but never, never sideways. Sideways is inviting disaster.

Kids should not not be operating any equipment unless instructed on the correct way to handle it and and deal with unforseen situations.

Kind of eliminates kids in my view. My son is grown but when he was younger, I never let him operate any of my tractors or earth engaging equipment without close supervision.

Kids and equipment don't mix well. JMO.

 

[hagrid]

Do you wear your seatbelt?

 

[GeoHorn]

12 year old kid was killed nearby when his grandmother let him shred the pasture. Grandmother still had Granddads tractor after he passed, and let the kid who lived in “town” mow with it.
Kid drove underneath tree branches and leaned back, falling off and run over by the shredder.

Children do NOT belong on Ag equipment. Period. Adults kill themselves every year by themselves.
74 year old friend of ours, a life-long rice-farmer who recently retired had moved his SIX tractors out to the highway with “For Sale” signs on them. He was re-positioning one of them along the drainage ditch in front of their house and was late coming in for lunch, so she went out to call him inside.... She found him underneath the rolled-tractor in the water.... This was a man who’d spent an entire life on tractors in rice fields.

Keep your kids OFF the tractor.

 

[BigG]

12 year old kid was killed nearby when his grandmother let him shred the pasture. Grandmother still had Granddads tractor after he passed, and let the kid who lived in “town” mow with it.
Kid drove underneath tree branches and leaned back, falling off and run over by the shredder.

Children do NOT belong on Ag equipment. Period. Adults kill themselves every year by themselves.
74 year old friend of ours, a life-long rice-farmer who recently retired had moved his SIX tractors out to the highway with “For Sale” signs on them. He was re-positioning one of them along the drainage ditch in front of their house and was late coming in for lunch, so she went out to call him inside.... She found him underneath the rolled-tractor in the water.... This was a man who’d spent an entire life on tractors in rice fields.

Keep your kids OFF the tractor.

I have looked at this in the opposite direction. I have mowed the banks and under the trees myself. The long straight flat areas my boys did the work. I wanted to teach them before they became smarter than me. All 3 can drive the tractors but the youngest at 17 has mastered the tractor in most places and types of work. They have learned from and with me instead of on their own.

I worked at a granary in Ill. There were kids sitting on pillows so the could see over the dash dragging the grain wagons from the fields. Two or there wagons behind a truck and the kids were better drivers then a lot of the adults. They could spot the trucks much better then the grown men.

 

[D2Cat]

Geo. I'm guessing with your ideas of never put yourself/others at ANY risk you stop and scold parents who ride their lawnmower with a child on their lap. You never took a risk in your life, so you probably never jump started a vehicle 'cause it may cause the battery to explode, or air up a bicycle tire it may explode also! Don't fuel up a lawnmower until the engine has completely cooled off. Surely you've never seen someone ride a bicycle, or a horse without a helmet. Risk is in everything we do. We're all miracles to be here!

I understand your point, equipment can be dangerous, but everyone is different in there level of understanding and competency at various ages. I actually know adults who don't know a wood chisel from a flat bladed screwdriver. Perhaps they should be refused a toolbox with objects in it, because they would not know what/how to use them.

 

[Mark_BX25D]

Kids who are sheltered from every possible danger get older and become useless "adults".

Notice I did NOT say they grow up, because they never really do.

 

[hagrid]

Horses should come with seatbelts.

 

[BAP]

There are many adults, including some on here, that shouldn’t be allowed on a seat of a tractor because they don’t have enough brains and common sense to operate them safely. Many know or learn how to operate a tractor properly. There are a lot of 12 year old or older farm kids that can run those tractors safer and better than those adults who have too much money in their pockets so they bought something that they have no idea what to do with. So those that don’t think kids should be allowed near a tractor, figure out which category you belong in.

 

[Fordtech86]

So my 5 yr old shouldn’t be digging holes with the backhoe, helping me pull t posts, lifting me up in the loader to get on the roof??? Hmm. I trust him more then anyone else.

I grew up on a real farm, spent a lot of time riding on the fenders of grandpas tractors wether running hay, plowing/planting fields, riding the combine. I know the risks and obviously watch my kids and safety is very important, but teaching them young will go a long ways. My son at 5 taught my wife how to drive the zero turn

 

[GeoHorn]

You guys criticisms should be directed at the Grandmother who ignorantly and without any risk-assessment skills allowed an inexperience CITY KID to get on a 8N tractor and pull a shredder around a field... something he had never before done and had no understanding of the possible dangers.
The illustration of the 74 year old experienced farmer was to show that these activities are dangerous. Children do not possess the judgment and experience to operate dangerous equipment without supervision by experienced adults was my only point. You guys are spring-loaded for criticism when you should be reflecting on the safety issues represented in the story. IMO

 

[chim]

Regardless of age, everyone has different abilities when it comes to mechanical aptitude and the ability to work with tools and machinery. Our youngest son, now with children of his own, has always had an exceptional ability to understand and operate machinery. Our first tractor was a Cub 154 LoBoy and one day it had an issue with the clutch. I wanted to tow it closer to my tools, so I hooked a chain to it and pulled it through the yard with the Bronco II. Wifey said she was surprised to look out the kitchen window to see the operation, and asked why 6 year old "Mowgli" was on the Cub steering and braking instead of the older brothers or her. I told her that he was the best one in the family for the job.

My wife's family's farm borders one side of our property, and the kids spent a lot of time there. The two older boys enjoyed being there but had no interest in the operation. The youngest wanted to do everything. He took care of a 50,000 bird laying chicken house by himself on weekends from the age of about 10. He knew what was going on with the egg packing machine by the sounds it made. He earned enough to buy his own slightly used and peppy Z28 (below) while a junior in high school. He never had any mishaps with it and when he sold it he cautioned the kid who bought it about the HP. That kid wrecked it twice. He could operate any of the equipment on the farm better than most of the hired help and was one of the few who could run the combine without bending up the sheet metal on the header.

He's now an engineer at a candy factory after working as a product engineer at an investment casting foundry for about 10 years. The other two boys are also good with tools and understanding mechanical stuff. While it was natural for the youngest son, the other two had to work harder at developing it. The one is a senior system computer analyst at a college, who recently rebuilt his own trans in a Jeep Cherokee. The oldest decided to be an electrician after completing college and teamed up with a friend to buy, rehab and rent apartments.

Now it pains me some to have grown men at work who can't grasp the whole concept of a variable speed trigger on an impact driver. How difficult should it be to ease up before stripping threads or twisting something off? Our company stopped loaning the Montana tractor to the guys who "have a little topsoil to spread this weekend" because something frequently gets broken.