Jet fuel is more like diesel fuel and it will ignite with a wide range of fuel to air ratios. I believe that the flight 800 plane had overheated wiring that passed thru the fuel tank. Hard to believe they build planes that way.
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fried1765
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"Jet fuel"...... is essentially kerosene,.....definitely more volatile than diesel.Jet fuel is more like diesel fuel and it will ignite with a wide range of fuel to air ratios. I believe that the flight 800 plane had overheated wiring that passed thru the fuel tank. Hard to believe they build planes that way.
I am not aware of any wiring that "passed thru" fuel tanks. There is wiring to power in tank mounted fuel boost pumps.
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locally blue cans are for KEROSENE(STAMPED ON THEM..), though 'logically' you'd think they should be for WATER ??
The NTSB investigation ended with the adoption of the board's final report on August 23, 2000. The board determined that the probable cause of the TWA 800 accident was:[1]: 308
In addition to the probable cause, the NTSB found the following contributing factors to the accident:[1]: 308
During the course of its investigation, and in its final report, the NTSB issued 15 safety recommendations, mostly covering fuel tank and wiring-related issues.
TWA 800 would be a huge Hi-Jack of this thread and is unrelated, IMO, and should be moved to its’ own thread … perhaps in the “Off Topic” area. This thread is about putting gasoline into a fuel tank intended for a diesel engine…and has little to do with kerosene/jet-fuel in an airplane.
Link to my theory: https://www.orangetractortalks.com/...fuel-tank-explosion-theory.57890/#post-552598
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In a pinch, could kerosene be used instead of diesel. Asking for a friend. 
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In a pinch, could kerosene be used instead of diesel. Asking for a friend.
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in days of yore on the farm we would run a mix of kero in the winter to prevent gelling. Grand dad always dumped in some 2 stroke oil with the kero for lubricity.
I'd shy away from doing this with modern diesels unless it was a last resort.
Thanks for the reply. I don't intend to do it but I have "an inquiring mind.In a “pinch” yes, I believe so. But be aware it will have even LESS lubricity for your fuel pump than would even ULSD. Vegetable oil would also likely work….but who knows what the cetane level might be.
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Thanks for the tip! I still live in the "days of yore." They were the best.
I don't have anykerosene but with the fuel situation as it is, one never knows. Thanks again.
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If this discussion of igniting fuel vapor does not fit your comfort zone....... please feel free to stick it elsewhere!
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Benz did that, too, but fairly quickly said not to do it because it forms an explosive vapor in the tank.
What REALLY used to get me (because it's so hard to do and you literally have to TRY to be stupid) is putting diesel into a car (modern car). The fuel filler neck on a car is only about 5/8" diameter IIRC but a diesel fuel nozzle is about 1". Yet when I worked at a major rental car place in the local airport here, people managed to be this stupid.
The diesel nozzle at truck stops are the large diameter for quicker fill ups on large tanks. At stations that primarily serve smaller vehicles have nozzle diameter the same as gas.
I remember the time that I took my new pickup to a truck stop and watched the truckers laugh at me. Their mouths fell open when I inserted the large nozzle in the newly designed large fuel fill.
Actually this is not true. When unleaded gas came in a restrictor was added and been there since. I use an automotive style station that sells diesel where I buy my fuel and there is no way on earth you can get a diesel nozzle into a gas fueled vehicle. Even when the customers who did this were queried as to how. They said they thought something was wrong with the car but they got it in anyway
Nozzle sizes are:
unleaded 13/16"
auto diesel 15/16"
hi-flo diesel 1 3/16"
That said some vehicles have a flap that requires the exact size nozzle to open the door. For instance I have a 2020 Wrangle diesel, even though the gas nozzle is smaller it won't open the flap. I found this because I needed to put diesel in it with a fuel jug and the flap wouldn't open. there is a special adapter you use with a fuel jug that doesn't have a 15/16" nozzle. My wife has a Mecedes GLK diesel,,,, no flap or restriction,,,, you can use the hi-flo nozzle to fill up.
unleaded 13/16"
auto diesel 15/16"
hi-flo diesel 1 3/16"
That said some vehicles have a flap that requires the exact size nozzle to open the door. For instance I have a 2020 Wrangle diesel, even though the gas nozzle is smaller it won't open the flap. I found this because I needed to put diesel in it with a fuel jug and the flap wouldn't open. there is a special adapter you use with a fuel jug that doesn't have a 15/16" nozzle. My wife has a Mecedes GLK diesel,,,, no flap or restriction,,,, you can use the hi-flo nozzle to fill up.
Made me laughIt was a weak attempt at humor. (prior post, I was acting like a dirty old man wanting a pic of a pretty woman….who did not really exist (you were ”asking for a friend”)… being a double-entendre …the non existent ”friend” actually being your own pretty self…
… and the next thread a poor attempt at play-on-words….. I.E. “kerosene” being a near homophone of a possible name: “Carol Scene”
Sorry. It wasn’t even a near-miss…. was it…
