Just adding a little something to a post earlier for good ole
@PoTreeBoy for whatever its worth.
Just an idea of how 2 different "a/c not cooling" situations can go. I got both of these in pretty quick this morning.
First a 19' rogue. A/C not cooling. New compressor installed by the dealer last tuesday.
This one could be somewhat "diaged" on the 30ft test drive from parking spot to my bay.
On start up, I could hear the clutch engage on the compressor. She would cool for about 40-45 seconds, then just before I shut her down, I heard the clutch disengage. The entire time not once did I hear anything in the form of a cooling fan.
Plug the ole solus in, bidirectionally control the cooling fan module. Nothing. Bad fan? Well, at this point probably, but if we called it without a meter or atleast a test light coming out on seen, we'd be guessing.
A quick, light, not too intrusive backprobe into the signal wire at the fan, test light to battery negative, command the fan back on, a NOW we definitively know the ciruit is attempting to power the fan. Swap our test light to battery positive so we can verify ground is present, and bam we have quickly yet definitively proven the cooling fan is bad. We confirm this even further by giving the fan the ole tonya harding and got her working back again. She'll still get fan though.
View attachment 158722
But without it, Head pressure was getting too high, a high side pressure switch would detect this, and disengage the clutch. This is an INTENTIONAL shut down. Chances are the OG compressor was just fine but who knows.
Victim #2 whose hot morning started off A/Cless was a 10' CRV. Customer has supplied their own a/c compressor courtesy of Rock Auto. Now hondas you gotta be careful. These days when these dudes are approaching 15+ years old, the failure rate on their relays is crazy high. Bad enough that if she looks ok on the gauges, i'll "attack" the a/c clutch relay first.
Again, driving her in, im listening, feeling, sensing LOL whatever.... But I don't hear the clutch even attempting to engage.
Gauges mostly pointing to the system having atleast "operational" levels of freon. And like previously mentioned about the relay, I already know its bad, but i'm gonna go through a quick "basic" procedure for y'all anyways.
View attachment 158724
Test light to ground, signal wire at clutch backprobed, we can see there is no power at the compressor. Put that new compressor on at this point, and someone's feelings are going to be hurt. My test light is jumped to the signal wire at the clutch underneath the car.
View attachment 158725
So now we (my preference) need to back up to the relay. This is usually my "left or right" point when on the electrical diag road. I'll bypass the relay on the load side (old style relays pins 30&87 newer ones generally 3&5, but as well see on this honda its pins 1&2) to confirm the suspect component (a/c compressor in this case) is capable of working or not. This will rule it out being a component issue and further verify it as a control issue.
View attachment 158728
If the component works when jumped at the load side of the relay, then we back up to the control side of the relay. At this point, most control side circuits are ground side switched through the relay. So she will have a constant power on the control side just like on the load side, only the pcm is going to supply the ground to close the contact, engage the relay, and power the component. This is why its dangerous to start jumping powers and grounds around in your relay box, jump 12v back to the pcm and you got problems. Here she is working when bypassed
View attachment 158726
Everything tested as it should and in this case confirmed the relay had mechanically binded (contacts weren't closing) wasn't engaging the armature to contact the load side of the relay. This is why we "test don't guess". Compressor engaged, pressures normal, system cooling as it should. Shes gettin a $15 relay.
View attachment 158727
Just a grease monkeys take on a/c issues this morning..... Here's a diagram if it helps
View attachment 158729