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Nicksacco

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I like Neal's videos and I thought this one was quite interesting.
I must confess I've done this move when in a hurry, but never will again!

 
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Am I to understand that a foil seal or bits thereof caused an engine to seize?
 

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Am I to understand that a foil seal or bits thereof caused an engine to seize?
Seems like the suction strainer should have prevented foil debris from entering the pressure lubrication system. Unless the strainer was packed full of it?
 
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Am I to understand that a foil seal or bits thereof caused an engine to seize?
Seems like there is even more to the story. The oil pickup has a screen similar to the photo below and it would have taken more than one or two foil seals to close it off.

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Seems like the suction strainer should have prevented foil debris from entering the pressure lubrication system. Unless the strainer was packed full of it?
Whatever the situation,......... I will never again push in one of those seals to break it open.
Wouda....coulda.....shouda....is not a satisfactory explanation for me.
 

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Always push them in to break the seal but peel them off too!
 
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I've always been SUPER paranoid of getting the foil in the engine, and I never knew exactly what damage it could do. I use my knife and cut the foil around the rim of the container. I've always hated the foil on the oil bottles, even though it does provide an extra seal.

I feel a bit vindicated now for being so fussy about it.
 
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I think someone did a bad analysis. Not that I put foil in my engines, but I also don’t believe it was the cause of the engine failure.
 
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Nicksacco

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Here's a thought I had while watching this; if I drop foreign matter into the engine via a "top of the engine" filler bung, that matter will try and find its way down to the oil pan via gravity. But if it gets caught in an oil passage and clogs it up, is it possible that whatever moving part the oil passage goes to will starve for oil? I've never seen the inside of the particular engine Neal had, but perhaps that's the deal.

On the other hand, like my L35, one fills the oil just above the oil pan - so if I were careless and dropped material there, I would think that the oil pump screen would catch it. If I drop a lot of stuff, I'd think that the screen would have at least a partial blockage lessening the overall oil flow.

I thought moving parts such as cranks and rods were pressure lubricated directly from the oil pump under pressure and not gravity. However, not to make light of Neal's video - dropping foil or other foreign matter into an engine is easily prevented.
 
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fried1765

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Interesting…I think I usually peel the foil off but probably have just pushed it in many times too.
I KNOW that, fact or fiction, I will be more observant of this potential issue with all of my engines in the future.