Skeets not doubt the law is there, but how much waiting and fighting takes place to get the machine back in operation at no cost to the owner? All over a few dollars I can save NOW.
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Mattwithcats, what's your interest with Fram filters? You always bring up cross reference numbers and defend them, even when no one is looking?
You the manufactures rep?
You the manufactures rep?
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Fram would be at the very bottom of my list of choices for sure. I won't use them on anything of mine. JMHO
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LOL...... ouch!
Seems to be a Fram-awl-agest!
I used to use Fram all the time myself, bet I have placed more filters on by fram than any other brand..........
But that ended about 15 years ago, no real reason other than many have showed online the "weakness" inside the can and "cheaper materials" used.
I would love to see a filter/pressure over time test, take a hydraulic lab, take 100 gallons of "dirty oil" and run it through a machine that constantly increases the psi as it cleans........after a unit of time, check the canister and the filtration of the oil. THAT would be a test that would sell a shyt ton of filters!
here is one by.......FRAM!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7P5iUArbJw
Not a pressure test but............. very informative
https://www.yourbestpicks.com/best-oil-filters-reviews/
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Like others have said it's not worth it to cheap out on filters after paying that much for your tractor.
No offense meant to anyone, just curious.
The quality on any test, whether it's about oil filter, oil, coffee, paint, siding, or other goods can be determined by who PAYS for the test.
Somehow, those who do the testing come up with the results the ones paying for the research want, in many cases!
As I'm drinking my coffee this morning, I'm not sure if it's good or bad for me. Depends on which study I take to heart (pun intended).
The quality on any test, whether it's about oil filter, oil, coffee, paint, siding, or other goods can be determined by who PAYS for the test.
Somehow, those who do the testing come up with the results the ones paying for the research want, in many cases!
As I'm drinking my coffee this morning, I'm not sure if it's good or bad for me. Depends on which study I take to heart (pun intended).
I doubt that there is a manufacturer in the world who doesn't want you to believe that their product is the best for you. As long as you are installing the right filter and changing it at the required interval you won't have a problem with any brand name filter. But that said, the warranty on Kubota's isn't that long that it will be a huge economic hardship to use their approved oil and filter until the warranty has expired. It just takes one more variable out of the question of what contributed to the failure.
D2CAT I agree with you, however many dealers either do not know about it, or fain ignorance. And yes it can be a major PIA, but if something major goes south say motor, or transmission and the filter or oil matches or exceeds the OEM requirements then its your friend. For small stuff your right it aint worth the BS
In the end, we all make our own decisions. For those who feel confident taking on the manufacturer, may the wind be at your back. Be prepared for all of your maintenance procedures/intervals to come into question. The burden of proof will be on you. So, if you know more about procedure than the service department, more about filters than the tech department, more about law than the legal department and keep excellent records, you shouldn't have any problems at all.
One does not need to know any of that stuff. The lawyers do.
And they can find that info with nary a problem.
And they will take the case without a penny downgleefully as they know big bucks $$$$$$$$$$$ are waiting for them.
A company would be insane to deny a claim for stuff like that. They would be broke by now if they did.
And they can find that info with nary a problem.
And they will take the case without a penny down
gleefully as they know big bucks $$$$$$$$$$$ are waiting for them.A company would be insane to deny a claim for stuff like that. They would be broke by now if they did.
One does not need to know any of that stuff. The lawyers do.
And they can find that info with nary a problem.
And they will take the case without a penny down
A company would be insane to deny a claim for stuff like that. They would be broke by now if they did.
Okay, what do I know anyway. In the last 15 years I have SEEN four different owners denied warranty due to fluid and/or filter issues. At least one of them was savvy enough to have his lawyer write letters although they never made it to court and he still did not get anywhere. He still had to pay after the better part of a year.
Gleeful lawyers? All you will get, at best, is expenses plus cost of repairs. Gonna get them for suffering and PTSD? Not much in it for a law firm other than their hourly rate.
How about we just agree to disagree on this. I can only try so hard to save a body from potential hardship. Much better things to discuss here on OTT.
Jon
Okie doke, guys. I can't tell you all of the 'how and the why's', because I do not know ALL of the details. I just know the claims and the outcome. Do what you like with the information. I have nothing left to offer.
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