Oil Extractor Recommendation

[GeoHorn]

The CBP still handles that and are very good at documenting fakes without the deadwood. Actually AI is making them more efficient at tracing supply now. Nothing has really changed over the last year. I think having cheap available Nike knockoff sneakers made side by side in slave factories making the real ones for low income families is a win. Many Chinese companies put their own name on products they export that are made to higher standards and do not use slave labor.

Respectfully,… if YOU created a fine product and went to the expense of production …and found someone producing “copy-cat” product and not paying proper wages/benefits to increase their profits making those unlicensed copies….. you wouldn’t feel that way.

By “copy-cat”, I don’t mean making good tennis-shoes of a unique design incorporated similar un-patented features…. Example: Shoe-Strings are not patented. Hook and Loop fasteners are legal once “Velcro” patents expired.…. but the copyrighted trademark “Velcro” should not be used.

IMO

 

[Tarmy]

OP, I have a manual/air extractor that works great…but the best thing I have found is this. It gets used a lot and has been very handy. Not cheap…

 

[McMXi]

When I was in charge of the shops at work, cost was important but was much less of a consideration than quality. With that said, I did buy some equipment from across both oceans. In some cases what we needed wasn't even made in the USA.

Now I'm retired. My tools aren't for commercial use. My purchases are made largely by considering cost heavily in the cost/benefit scenario. I'm a hobbyist. I don't have acres of pieces of equipment, a business, a YouTube channel, farm 1000's of acres, have employees - or for that matter, even get paid for what I do. If there's a used or "cheap" tool that meets my needs I buy it.

We're all free to buy what we want, but I try to buy products made in countries that don't have a well-established and well-known habit of stealing intellectual property, so that means products from the US, Japan, Taiwan and Europe wherever possible. Those countries/regions follow international standards pertaining to the quality of materials, the safety and well-being of the employees and adherence to international law regarding intellectual property.

 

[WI_Hedgehog]

I bought a 6 in 1 trimming tool set from Vevor. ....
Yes, it is cheap stuff but in this case I only need it to work till I get the property under control.

 

[Sidekick]

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Gonna take a backhoe to fix that .

 

[GeoHorn]

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[WI_Hedgehog]

Gonna take a backhoe to fix that .

A Coo.boat.ah.

I looked into inexpensive Chinese knockoffs of a variety of products over the past 20 years and they're generally "cheap." Soft steel is easy to form and machine (costing far less in time and tooling to manufacture), though they wear out way faster, at least for the stuff I own. Do I for instance want a 3-ton Chinese excavator with jerky controls that has the strength of a 1.5-ton and mild-steel bucket teeth where the whole machine will last 5 years of homeowner use then have no parts availability for $20K, or a Kubota for $60K?

I see why Chinese excavators, chainsaws, combination units, and the like are popular, but owning STIHL professional series chainsaws and Kombi-unit there's a pleasure that comes from using them that makes work enjoyable, plus they don't tend to break when the unexpected happens. Plus I can sell them used for near what I bought them new when I'm done using them. Can't say that about the Chinese stuff.

Very plastic saw, $130

Vevor, $90

STIHL MS201 TC-M, $960
Is it worth it? When I'm in a tree, you bet.

 

[Sidekick]

A Coo.boat.ah.

I looked into inexpensive Chinese knockoffs of a variety of products over the past 20 years and they're generally "cheap." Soft steel is easy to form and machine (costing far less in time and tooling to manufacture), though they wear out way faster, at least for the stuff I own. Do I for instance want a 3-ton Chinese excavator with jerky controls that has the strength of a 1.5-ton and mild-steel bucket teeth where the whole machine will last 5 years of homeowner use then have no parts availability for $20K, or a Kubota for $60K?

I see why Chinese excavators, chainsaws, combination units, and the like are popular, but owning STIHL professional series chainsaws and Kombi-unit there's a pleasure that comes from using them that makes work enjoyable, plus they don't tend to break when the unexpected happens. Plus I can sell them used for near what I bought them new when I'm done using them. Can't say that about the Chinese stuff.

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Very plastic saw, $130

I recently bought a $20k true 2 ton commercial rated Chinese excavator with a Kubota engine from Japan, load sensing italian piston pump, high end Italian valves, and a 3 year warranty with parts avaliable on the US mainland. Couldn't afford the Kubota and this is a very equivalent machine that impressed my Kubota salesman with better specs. You have to do your homework and not buy the cheap auction machines. It will definitely outlast me. I couldn't be happier with it. I got the first one imported and zero issues yet. It is amazing how the recent changes in quality from manufacturers seeking to build reputation in the US markets.
I also have spent quite a bit on solar components, batteries, from China the last year because that's where they all come from. I bought high quality panels from Vietnam because of better specs at lower prices then anything available made in the US. We were pushed to a global economy by leaders the last 20 years and it may get a little costlier from tarrifs but isn't going to go away overnight. Heck, I even bought a new Kioti tractor last year because of a 33% savings over the Kubota I also priced. I am tickled pink with it and it starts at 20 below zero better than any diesel I have owned in the past. Also has a 6 year drive train warranty at my local dealer that has awesome mechanics. Brand loyalty is no longer used in my decision making as It used to be. I no longer see quality differences like there used to be with offshore equipment if you do your homework. Let's face it, I have found US manufacturers quality and value has slipped since the pandemic where offshore has gone up if you select the right manufacturer. Heck, I just bought a high end gaming computer and as 98% of all computers it was made in China. Only part in it from the US was the Nvidia graphics chip on the RTX 5080 video card. I used to be anti Chinese products but now accept them as a normal part of our life and I no longercare about the source if the quality is there.
Supposed to be about oil extractors, mine is also from China and works fine for me. Country of origin definitely no longer defines product reliability and quality if you do your research I have found.

 

[chim]

I recently bought a $20k true 2 ton commercial rated Chinese excavator with a Kubota engine from Japan, load sensing italian piston pump, high end Italian valves, and a 3 year warranty with parts avaliable on the US mainland. Couldn't afford the Kubota and this is a very equivalent machine that impressed my Kubota salesman with better specs. You have to do your homework and not buy the cheap auction machines. It will definitely outlast me. I couldn't be happier with it. I got the first one imported and zero issues yet. It is amazing how the recent changes in quality from manufacturers seeking to build reputation in the US markets.
I also have spent quite a bit on solar components, batteries, from China the last year because that's where they all come from. I bought high quality panels from Vietnam because of better specs at lower prices then anything available made in the US. We were pushed to a global economy by leaders the last 20 years and it may get a little costlier from tarrifs but isn't going to go away overnight. Heck, I even bought a new Kioti tractor last year because of a 33% savings over the Kubota I also priced. I am tickled pink with it and it starts at 20 below zero better than any diesel I have owned in the past. Also has a 6 year drive train warranty at my local dealer that has awesome mechanics. Brand loyalty is no longer used in my decision making as It used to be. I no longer see quality differences like there used to be with offshore equipment if you do your homework. Let's face it, I have found US manufacturers quality and value has slipped since the pandemic where offshore has gone up if you select the right manufacturer. Heck, I just bought a high end gaming computer and as 98% of all computers it was made in China. Only part in it from the US was the Nvidia graphics chip on the RTX 5080 video card. I used to be anti Chinese products but now accept them as a normal part of our life and I no longercare about the source if the quality is there.
Supposed to be about oil extractors, mine is also from China and works fine for me. Country of origin definitely no longer defines product reliability and quality if you do your research I have found.

I remember having a laughing fit when I saw the first Honda car at a Pontiac dealership in Lancaster. All these years later guess which brand isn't sold there.

It wasn't that long ago a used car dealer friend was telling me that " those Hyoondays" were going to be a flash in the pan. Today they have 10/100000 warranties and are getting excellent reviews.

 

[TheOldHokie]

I remember having a laughing fit when I saw the first Honda car at a Pontiac dealership in Lancaster. All these years later guess which brand isn't sold there.

It wasn't that long ago a used car dealer friend was telling me that " those Hyoondays" were going to be a flash in the pan. Today they have 10/100000 warranties and are getting excellent reviews.

Advancing age has one clear benefit - it provides some historical perspective that younger people are missing. For some reason my youngest son comes to mind....

Dan

 

[McMXi]

I used to be anti Chinese products but now accept them as a normal part of our life and I no longercare about the source if the quality is there.

I'm still anti Chinese products but it's got nothing to do with the quality that may or may not be there. It's the fact that a company spends a lot of time and money designing and developing a product, pays for patents and copyright, goes through the teething process of refining the product which might mean covering warranty claims, only to have the product copied and sold at a price point that undercuts the original product.

The Chinese company doesn't need to recoup any of the development cost, and even uses the already established perception of the original product to sell their version. This is where trade dress and design patents are supposed to protect companies from this flagrant theft, such as Kioti tractors trying to look like Kubota tractors, but these days the horse hasn't just bolted, it's over in the next county and jumping fences.

 

[McMXi]

By the way, if you've ever sent out drawings to get prototype parts made (I do this regularly), many companies will now charge a huge amount of money upfront to encourage you to have them make production parts for you down the road. Some will roll the upfront charge into a discount once you go to production with them. They do a lot of work getting prototype parts made and figuring out all of the steps that now have the acronym DFM (design for manufacturing), and many have seen the contract for mass produced parts go to another company who reaps all the benefits of the hard work that's been done.

 

[TheOldHokie]

Nobody owns orange

 

[Sidekick]

By the way, if you've ever sent out drawings to get prototype parts made (I do this regularly), many companies will now charge a huge amount of money upfront to encourage you to have them make production parts for you down the road. Some will roll the upfront charge into a discount once you go to production with them. They do a lot of work getting prototype parts made and figuring out all of the steps that now have the acronym DFM (design for manufacturing), and many have seen the contract for mass produced parts go to another company who reaps all the benefits of the hard work that's been done.

I used to send out parts for quotes over 25 years ago when manufacturers started getting greedy and profits on large systems were dropping. Actually discovered our company could have identical complex sheet metal parts made in large quantities in China for less then just the cost of the box alone from the current US vendor was charging. Plus no upfront tooling or setup costs. The parts actually came in identical quality, material, inserts, finish spec thickness and composition, packing and protection plus always on time when we switched over to China. That was only smaller orders of 25,000 each to start but the savings was in the millions per order. Then it ramped up. You have to make changes like that to compete in the market. Yes we do have specialty manufacturers that can't be replaced, but to be cost competitive just about all US manufacturers purchase custom made parts from China and just put a sticker on things they sell that says Assembled in the USA from globally produced parts. It's not like back in the early 1990s buying harbor freight wrenches that if you were lucky lasted past the first bolt. I think over half the parts on my Ford have made in China stamps so they're affordable.

 

[Spam Bot]

Vevor sells thru Amazon…Yes…and Amazon “Prime” accepts Free-Returns if the customer has an issue. I’ve had very few problems with either.

I just wish Our current Pile-of-Mis-Representative Politicians would do as well as Vevor.

Is this a "political statement" which isn't allowed under the "terms of service"?

 

[lmichael]

Well this discussion certainly has "evolved" Listen I will report back on the new extractor once it arrives here. Good or bad.
Another reason I think the first one I had was a "problem child" is I saved a few $$$ and bought it from Amazon Outlet. (An)other thing(s) I already noted the air check valve was laying in the box, and lastly was the pump was very difficult to operate. Needing a lot of muscle to move it, whereas I saw all the positive reviews showing it moving with literally finger pressure on the handle.
This time I did not buy from the outlet. Brand new from the Vevor Store on Amazon

 

[McMXi]

Nobody owns orange

True, but a color can be trademarked when the color is significant in distinguishing a product. Try launching a new tractor line in John Deere green and yellow and see what happens.

 

[Sidekick]

True, but a color can be trademarked when the color is significant in distinguishing a product. Try launching a new tractor line in John Deere green and yellow and see what happens.

Kioti was hit for using a similar color about 2018. That's why they added some red to it 19 on.

 

[McMXi]

Well this discussion certainly has "evolved" Listen I will report back on the new extractor once it arrives here. Good or bad.
Another reason I think the first one I had was a "problem child" is I saved a few $$$ and bought it from Amazon Outlet. (An)other thing(s) I already noted the air check valve was laying in the box, and lastly was the pump was very difficult to operate. Needing a lot of muscle to move it, whereas I saw all the positive reviews showing it moving with literally finger pressure on the handle.
This time I did not buy from the outlet. Brand new from the Vevor Store on Amazon

Nothing wrong with evolving discussions. I do have one comment re the EWK oil extractor though. The pump handle can rotate while pumping, and if you're not cafeful, you can pinch your fingers between the handle and the air valve. You might only do it once though. I'm curious as to whether the VEVOR extractor has the same "feature".

 

[Sidekick]

Well this discussion certainly has "evolved" Listen I will report back on the new extractor once it arrives here. Good or bad.
Another reason I think the first one I had was a "problem child" is I saved a few $$$ and bought it from Amazon Outlet. (An)other thing(s) I already noted the air check valve was laying in the box, and lastly was the pump was very difficult to operate. Needing a lot of muscle to move it, whereas I saw all the positive reviews showing it moving with literally finger pressure on the handle.
This time I did not buy from the outlet. Brand new from the Vevor Store on Amazon

I hope you realize the Vevor stuff on Amazon isn't always the same stuff you get directly from Vevor. Different business using the same name.