New Kubota or Kioti

[TheOldHokie]

Anyway, I know that isn't relevant to the OP...so, my apologies for the derail. My post above about the fancy loader control knob is legit. I like it much better than the Kubota knob.

Carry on...

I was judt looking at them and I do too. It was one of the things that jumped out to me.

Dan

 

[dirtydeed]

I was judt looking at them and I do too. It was one of the things that jumped out to me.

Dan

Got mine from ebay. works like a charm on my Kubota

 

[Mitjam]

LMAO. A large percentage of the people here put 40 to 50 hours on their tractor.

This conversation intriqed me and since I had to tske a tire in for service I decided to visit one of the local Kioti dealers thats 15 minutes down the road.

I was faborably impressed on three fronts. The showroom was neat, clean, and packed with bright shiney power equipment from Stihl, Ariens, Gravely, Cub Cadet, and a few others. Indistinguishable from the big name dealers in the area.

The service department was not as flashy or spotless as the high dollar dealers but they werecworking on a number of different machines lsrge and small including on Kioti compact. The owner and head mechanic was friendly and helpful.

The lot had an assortment of Kioti tractors which were a little dirtier than the big names (we had a hige storm last night) but if you had put Kubota badging on them I would have believed it. Fit snd finsh comparable to Kubotas.

A few things caught my eye:

1. The operators platform on all models is flatter
2. The fuel tank is down low and much more accessible
3. All models had floor or console mounted loader joysticks with prewired third function buttons.

Here are a few pics I snapped while I was kicking the tires.

Dan

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That was what I was looking at when buying my lx

 

[Mitjam]

LMAO. A large percentage of the people here put 40 to 50 hours on their tractor.

This conversation intriqed me and since I had to tske a tire in for service I decided to visit one of the local Kioti dealers thats 15 minutes down the road.

I was faborably impressed on three fronts. The showroom was neat, clean, and packed with bright shiney power equipment from Stihl, Ariens, Gravely, Cub Cadet, and a few others. Indistinguishable from the big name dealers in the area.

The service department was not as flashy or spotless as the high dollar dealers but they werecworking on a number of different machines lsrge and small including on Kioti compact. The owner and head mechanic was friendly and helpful.

The lot had an assortment of Kioti tractors which were a little dirtier than the big names (we had a hige storm last night) but if you had put Kubota badging on them I would have believed it. Fit snd finsh comparable to Kubotas.

A few things caught my eye:

1. The operators platform on all models is flatter
2. The fuel tank is down low and much more accessible
3. All models had floor or console mounted loader joysticks with prewired third function buttons.

Here are a few pics I snapped while I was kicking the tires.

Dan

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They have come along way. I know about 8 years ago we looked and compared them to Kubota there was no comparison basically same price and a very basic tractor was a no brainer for me, skip ahead to now little different. Would kioti dk series compare to the grand L then? Sorry I thought your pic was of the kioti ck series

 

[TheOldHokie]

They have come along way. I know about 8 years ago we looked and compared them to Kubota there was no comparison basically same price and a very basic tractor was a no brainer for me, skip ahead to now little different. Would kioti dk series compare to the grand L then? Sorry I thought your pic was of the kioti ck series

I took some pics of the CK but did not post them.

Based on a cursory look the DK it is phsically a standard/grand L class machine. Its better featured than a standard L at a little lower price. I dont think it has any thing equivalent to the computerized powertrain management (HST Plus) that you get with a Grand L.

I have been a Kubota fan for decades but if I had a do over on my L3901 I am not sure which I would choose. The L3901 is a fine tractor but I have been very disappointed at the way Kubota bare boned the current Standard L lineup.

Dan

 

[Mitjam]

I took some pics of the CK but did not post them.

Based on a cursory look the DK it is phsically a standard/grand L class machine. Its better featured than a standard L at a little lower price. I dont think it has any thing equivalent to the computerized powertrain management (HST Plus) that you get with a Grand L.

I have been a Kubota fan for decades but if I had a do over on my L3901 I am not sure which I would choose. The L3901 is a fine tractor but I have been very disappointed at the way Kubota bare boned the current Standard L lineup.

Dan

I understand where you’re coming from hence this post. My dad has had kubotas since 1999 and this hx1115 kioti impressed him that’s for sure

 

[rc51stierhoff]

All I know is the price differences mentioned that started this thread are huge. Frankly speaking that is good for us. Competition is healthy. Keeps everybody honest. If Kioti is priced that much less, it will get attention of other companies and it will cause a reaction one way or another. Are they trying to steal market share on price or have a better product? TBD. Either they gain some share and challenge other companies do better, or they gain share and have product issues and seal their fate. For consumer this is great IMO. I hope they do challenge K and keep them honest. Companies get sloppy without competition.

 

[Sidekick]

All I know is the price differences mentioned that started this thread are huge. Frankly speaking that is good for us. Competition is healthy. Keeps everybody honest. If Kioti is priced that much less, it will get attention of other companies and it will cause a reaction one way or another. Are they trying to steal market share on price or have a better product? TBD. Either they gain some share and challenge other companies do better, or they gain share and have product issues and seal their fate. For consumer this is great IMO. I hope they do challenge K and keep them honest. Companies get sloppy without competition.

It's not just price difference that's causing people to switch. The Grammer seat, ergonomics of the loader control, ease of access, fit and finish, higher hydraulic flow, and advertised loader capacities that caused me to switch. Plus 2 long term dealers within 20 miles that have a diversity high end products besides Kioti with good reputations. My experience with Kubota service reps has not been great and I don't see how Kioti could be worse.

 

[Mitjam]

All I know is the price differences mentioned that started this thread are huge. Frankly speaking that is good for us. Competition is healthy. Keeps everybody honest. If Kioti is priced that much less, it will get attention of other companies and it will cause a reaction one way or another. Are they trying to steal market share on price or have a better product? TBD. Either they gain some share and challenge other companies do better, or they gain share and have product issues and seal their fate. For consumer this is great IMO. I hope they do challenge K and keep them honest. Companies get sloppy without competition.

I agree competition drives change. Not saying kioti is the perfect tractor either but if kioti can make money selling equal or more of a tractor at almost half the price that’s got to spark some attention for sure

 

[mcmxi]

1. The operators platform on all models is flatter

The thought "I wish the operators platform on my MX or M was flatter" has never crossed my mind. Flat is flat. That said, I'm sure I'd be just as happy pulling the RC3712 with an RX7320 as I am with the M6060, and possibly even happier.

 

[TheOldHokie]

The thought "I wish the operators platform on my MX or M was flatter" has never crossed my mind. Flat is flat. That said, I'm sure I'd be just as happy pulling the RC3712 with an RX7320 as I am with the M6060, and possibly even happier.

Speaking as an old guy with an L3901 and arthritic knees it was one of the first thinks I noticed when getting on the Kioti.

Dan

 

[mcmxi]

Speaking as an old guy with an L3901 and arthritic knees it was one of the first thinks I noticed when getting on the Kioti.

Dan

Oh yeah, that's quite the hump! The MX6000 open station I sold had a slight hump in the center of the operating platform, but I don't remember it being an issue. The larger the tractor the smaller the center hump perhaps. Here's the MX6000 that I had. I don't have a photo of the operators platform in the M or MX cab but I'm sure that the floor is flat in the M, and close to it in the MX.

 

[TheOldHokie]

Oh yeah, that's quite the hump! The MX6000 open station I sold had a slight hump in the center of the operating platform, but I don't remember it being an issue. The larger the tractor the smaller the center hump perhaps. Here's the MX6000 that I had. I don't have a photo of the operators platform in the M or MX cab but I'm sure that the floor is flat in the M, and close to it in the MX.

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That looks almost exactly like the Kioti. The old Fords came in "flat floor" or "straddle mount".

Dan

 

[mcmxi]

Here's a screenshot of the M6060 cab from the factory brochure. All knees welcome!! No doubt I'll appreciate that in a few years.

 

[Mitjam]

The thought "I wish the operators platform on my MX or M was flatter" has never crossed my mind. Flat is flat. That said, I'm sure I'd be just as happy pulling the RC3712 with an RX7320 as I am with the M6060, and possibly even happier.

Or a kioti hx1115 then tell me how you like it haha

 

[Sidekick]

My Kioti finally arrived. Went up today to watch them put it together and add the 3rd function. Everything was perfect except for a scratch in the hood paint probably from the trucker strap . Luckily it's a easy to swap out panel. Fit and finish looked great. Was able to get the old style loader that has 2 ft reach at 8 ft dump height. Even their hats are better then the cheap Kubota hats that fade in days you get when buying a tractor. My first and last other orange tractor picture on here so I don't get banned . There are no good Kioti forums that I have found yet.

 

[jimh406]

There are no good Kioti forums that I have found yet.

It's ok. I hear they have no issues and nobody does any mods to them.

Seriously. though, you could try FB or start your own.

 

[TheOldHokie]

My Kioti finally arrived. Went up today to l them put it together and add the 3rd function. Everything was perfect except for a scratch in the hood paint probably from the trucker strap . Luckily it's a easy to swap out panel. Fit and finish looked great. Was able to get the old style loader that has 2 ft reach at 8 ft dump height. Even their hats are better then the cheap Kubota hats that fade in days you get when buying a tractor. My first and last other orange tractor picture on here so I don't get banned . There are no good Kioti forums that I have found yet.
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I would not trust any dealer with a shop that is that clean

Dan

 

[Sidekick]

It's ok. I hear they have no issues and nobody does any mods to them.

Seriously. though, you could try FB or start your own.

I Don't do Facebook anymore and that seems to be where most companies have theirs these days. Would be nice to have a dedicated one.

 

[jyoutz]

It's ok. I hear they have no issues and nobody does any mods to them.

Seriously. though, you could try FB or start your own.

He can go to TBN and join the Kioti discussion there.