Need Advice (Desperately)

Snakebit12

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@Snakebit12, thanks for this thread. You might very well prevent others such as myself from facing a similar situation.
I am glad to have helped ;).

I do not want to give the impression that it was parked either uphill or downhill. It was parked on the side of a slope (traverse if you will). Once it started rolling, it literally made a 90 degree right turn (the path of least resistance) and headed for the woods. I usually bury the forks into the ground and back off a bit. Must have backed off a tad too much.

It was a sickening feeling watching it roll away. I've watched runaway hay bales at the same location but we're talking about a $75 bale of hay, not a $35k tractor.

I believe that I have reached the "acceptance" stage.

The insurance companies have been top-notch so far. Although nobody has directly said it, I get the feeling that they will total it. The appraiser comes tomorrow after the monsoon predicted for Virginia today.

I've started looking around for used equipment...need a similar size to run an 8' pull-type Land Pride mower.
 
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GBJeffOH

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I have a 2012 M7040 that ran away from me (unattended) down a hill before crashing into the woods. It stopped when it reached a tree that would not give way.

I had parked perpendicular to the slope of the hill with the parking brake on (it is still on :(). Must require some adjustment.

It is not a pretty site (pics attached). The font axle is toast as are both front wheels...they literally are both horizontal The loader and tractor frames (may)/(may not) be bent. Hard to tell in the woods.

It is insured which is good given the cost that will be required to fix this. But that isn't my big concern.

My big concern is how the hell to get it out of the woods without causing even more damage. It effectively created the sole access point - it can only come out the way that it went in. I have a neighbor with a 166hp IH that can probably pull it out by connecting to the back end but I don't know how to deal with the front end given that there is no longer a front axle.

The question becomes...what drags on the front end when it is pulled probably 150-200' uphill before reaching flat ground? The frame? What's left of the front axle? The loader? I am afraid that just hooking on some chains and pulling it out will cause even more damage.

It starts and I have full hydraulics.

Any suggestions?

Signed,

Depressed in VA

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It looks like the front axle is ok. Just broke loose from the tractor. This may be fixable.
 

Snakebit12

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It looks like the front axle is ok. Just broke loose from the tractor. This may be fixable.
Yes, the front axle broke loose on impact with the trees. Had it moved down to level ground using the loader as a substitute axle so it can be loaded and transported for possible repair. All in all, it survived the journey down the hill much better than I feared.

Starts right up...no warning lights. Hydraulics show no sign of leaking aside from the curl function on the joystick where the hose broke off.

The axle obviously came down the hill on a separate trip.

I really do hope that it is fixable. At a bare minimum, two new front rims and tires plus whatever is necessary with the front axle. I had assumed that it was totaled but now, I am not so sure.
 

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GBJeffOH

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Yes, the front axle broke loose on impact with the trees. Had it moved down to level ground using the loader as a substitute axle so it can be loaded and transported for possible repair. All in all, it survived the journey down the hill much better than I feared.

Starts right up...no warning lights. Hydraulics show no sign of leaking aside from the curl function on the joystick where the hose broke off.

The axle obviously came down the hill on a separate trip.

I really do hope that it is fixable. At a bare minimum, two new front rims and tires plus whatever is necessary with the front axle. I had assumed that it was totaled but now, I am not so sure.
I hope it is good news.
 

Snakebit12

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Can you safely get snaps of the area where the front axle mounts to the tractor?
Pics Attached.

What I "think" happened is that the right front tire hit a tree and basically stopped. The left front tire kept going and effectively forced a severe right turn which was beyond the turning radius of the tractor.

Something had to give.

There are, per the diagram, two axle cylindrical housings that are part of the Front Differential Case. They fit inside assembly brackets, both front and rear (IMG150). The rear bracket (IMG 151) looks OK. The front bracket (IMG152) still has part of the housing attached. The housing that fit into the front assembly bracket simply snapped off.

I removed the broken housing and placed in where it was on the Front Differential Case before last Saturday (IMG155).

So, at a minimum...A new Front Differential Case and two new front tire rims plus labor. I'll be the luckiest man on earth if that is the extent of the damage.
 

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@Snakebit12, @PoTreeBoy & @JasonW, I'm in your debt. I just got the QH on the back of the M6060, removed the PHD and put on the land leveler in preparation for running up and down the lower driveway a few times this afternoon. I stopped on a very steep hill and decided to test out the holding ability (or lack thereof) of the transmission and hydraulic clutch. They don't do a darn thing in terms of keeping the tractor where it is which is very sobering to be honest. In my head I assumed that the hydraulics were used to disengage the clutch but clearly hadn't put enough thought or effort into understanding the drivetrain.

@Snakebit12, I feel your pain and thanks again for this thread and for the education and reminder. I usually lower the loader all the way and lower the rear implement if present, and put the parking brake on, but I'm going to be more diligent in the future.