NAPA and Others Class Action Lawsuit on 303 - 20 weight Hydraulic Fluil

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A prime example of why it's best to stick with factory recommended fluids for your tractor whatever the brand.
 
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And I had always thought Warren Oil was reputable. :(
 
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Cathy Liebchen said:
It’s the folks with equipment damage who will file claims. And great for the lawyers they get $4mil
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Yep. As usual, the only people who really win a class action are the plaintiff attorneys and the original plaintiff who “represents” the class. All the other class members almost always get peanuts.
 
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No one wins in court except the lawyers.
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Don't get me wrong - I am not advocating for anyone but I have ambivalent feelimgs about these (more than one) 303 class actions.

  1. The stuff is horrible and why anyone would produce or sell it is beyond me. But then people do own antique tractors, people do buy it, and it does dispose of the dregs in a cost effective / ECO fashion.....
  2. The labeling is actually pretty clear - it is not suitable for use in "modern" tractors and there is no claim that it is acceptable for use in applications requiring any even remotely modern specification/reccomendation. I don't see that as deceptive.
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TheOldHokie said:
Don't get me wrong - I am not advocating for anyone but I have ambivalent feelimgs about these (more than one) 303 class actions.

  1. The stuff is horrible and why anyone would produce or sell it is beyond me. But then people do own antique tractors, people do buy it, and it does dispose of the dregs in a cost effective / ECO fashion.....
  2. The labeling is actually pretty clear - it is not suitable for use in "modern" tractors and there is no claim that it is acceptable for use in applications requiring any even remotely modern specification/reccomendation. I don't see that as deceptive.
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I’ve read that “303” fluid is often the “scrub” residuals refineries use to clean-out equipment. It basically is a way for them to sell their bath-water.
 
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I have a Farmall H and a Kubota L4701. I might put 303 in the H. Don’t run it much and that’s probably about what was available when it was built in the early 50’s. No way I’d put it in the Kubota. Like others have said, read the label on the product, follow manufacturer recommendations, and problems like this are avoided.

So far as manufacturer recommendations, I’m convinced some are money grabbing crap. When it comes to fluids I know I’m not smart enough to second guess the manufacturer on oil weights, oil types, fuel requirements, weight capacities, etc. Maybe someone out there is smart enough and can shave some money off their maintenance costs or tweak their machine for better performance. I suspect that group is rather small. Probably smaller than the group that thinks they’re smart enough to second guess the manufacturer.
 
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Would really need to see the label on the container as to WHY. I suspect 'they' said 'meets xxx company specs for yyy oil' ?? when it really didn't.

That 'Coastal 303' seems like a GREAT summer oil, based on temperature rating.

Now if someone used it in ,say, Alaska,in winter , THEY would be at fault NOT the oil company.
 
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GreensvilleJay said:
Would really need to see the label on the container as to WHY. I suspect 'they' said 'meets xxx company specs for yyy oil' ?? when it really didn't.

That 'Coastal 303' seems like a GREAT summer oil, based on temperature rating.

Now if someone used it in ,say, Alaska,in winter , THEY would be at fault NOT the oil company.
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The Coastal Oil is CRAP at any temperature and the label makes no claims of meeting any OEM or industry specification.

The yellow bucket oils all contain little in the way of virgin base oil and little to no additives. Yellow bucket oils cannot pass any of the basic qualifying tests used across the industry. I posted a link to a comparative quantitative and qualitative analyisis in the other oil thread. Go read it to see whats in those pails and how they actually perform.

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