Reached the 200 filter change and service. What does everyone use to get these filters off? These are a bear to loosen up for some reason. I don't want to crush the filter and get fluid all over the place. Any suggestons would be appreciated.
L4701 hst Filter removal
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TheOldHokie
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L3901/LA525, B7200DT/B1630, G2160/RCK60, G2460/RCK60
I just purchased a Lisle fluted end cap wrench to fit the new L3901. Cost about $8 and works great with 3/8 drive ratchet/breaker bar.
Dan
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I use an oil filter strap wrench on my HST filters. Buy one that is a couple of inches wide.
I use an air hammer with chisel tip. Grabs the serrations. Just have to be careful with that tool as it can screw some stuff up quickly.
You won't crush that filter with a pair of pliers, or pipe wrench, or filter wrench. Once you get it off you will see what I mean. It's thick, and quite well built.
You won't crush that filter with a pair of pliers, or pipe wrench, or filter wrench. Once you get it off you will see what I mean. It's thick, and quite well built.
NCL4701
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L4701, T2290, WC68, grapple, BB1572, Farmi W50R, Howes 500, 16kW IMD gen, WG24
Reading some of the stories of low hour services, I have been prepared an epic battle spilling oil and blood every time a filter has to come off. So far my plain Jane 40 year old standard filter wrench has taken them all off with no issue. Thankfully hasn’t lived up to the hype thus far for me.
85Hokie
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bought this a while back - works well, the little grit stuff helps quite a bit
fried1765
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That looks easy!
Just super glue some relatively coarse sandpaper strips to the inside of a standard filter wrench?
i've used those filter "wrenches" in the past.
On the HST filters, they aren't a standard square cut o-ring seal, with a flimsy filter can. They are super thick canister, with an aluminum base, and a standard round o-ring. The aluminum base is tightened against the (usually) iron transmission housing. When you have ferrous and non ferrous materials in contact and/or threaded together, it's almost invariable that they'll get STUCK. And HST filters on the standard L's are no exception.
I have, in the past, put several hundred pounds of force on a filter "wrench", broken the wrench, then grabbed a "spare", broke the cheater off, and the filter didn't even begin to laugh at it. They can get really, really stuck! Hence, the air chisel. From that point on tractors that had the original HST filter still on them, I'd almost always grab the chisel tip and bust it loose. Once it's loose, it comes right off. Takes seconds; not minutes fiddling with a slipping wrench. Some of them I could get off with a big pair of channel locks, mostly B series. L's were almost always air hammer time!
Saving time is how a tech gets paid....if flat rate for a filter R&R is 0.5 hour and I can do it in 0.2, I can save the customer money AND I can make a little too (can do more of them in a day).
On the HST filters, they aren't a standard square cut o-ring seal, with a flimsy filter can. They are super thick canister, with an aluminum base, and a standard round o-ring. The aluminum base is tightened against the (usually) iron transmission housing. When you have ferrous and non ferrous materials in contact and/or threaded together, it's almost invariable that they'll get STUCK. And HST filters on the standard L's are no exception.
I have, in the past, put several hundred pounds of force on a filter "wrench", broken the wrench, then grabbed a "spare", broke the cheater off, and the filter didn't even begin to laugh at it. They can get really, really stuck! Hence, the air chisel. From that point on tractors that had the original HST filter still on them, I'd almost always grab the chisel tip and bust it loose. Once it's loose, it comes right off. Takes seconds; not minutes fiddling with a slipping wrench. Some of them I could get off with a big pair of channel locks, mostly B series. L's were almost always air hammer time!
Saving time is how a tech gets paid....if flat rate for a filter R&R is 0.5 hour and I can do it in 0.2, I can save the customer money AND I can make a little too (can do more of them in a day).
Vise Grips oil filter wrench…
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Locking Oil Filter Wrench
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I prefer this style. Just be sure to get the right size for the filter.
Lugbolt, this is not a criticism…it’s a genuine request for an education….
If the shop works on a “flat rate”…. HOW does the mechanic who can do a half-hour job in ten minutes ”save the customer money”…??
When I worked as a mechanic on the Flat-Rate… the point was that the customer ONLY paid a “flat rate”….not the time the job actually took. The purpose of a “flat rate” is (or was) so that both the Shop and the Customer knew what any particular job would pay…no more…no less.
How does a talented mechanic who can beat the flat rate save the customer money?
I promise…I‘m not tryin’ to be a smart-azz…. just wonderin’ if you’s jus speakin…. “off the cuff”.. ?
(or is there something I’m missing in more modern times…it’s been about 40 years since I worked as a mechanic officially.)
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