Kubota T1880 Won't Drive

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There are 3 wheels on the left side; which one is the pulley?
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This is the area I'm interested in. It may just be a wet spot.

Edit: nevermind, 3074 is what I was interested in, looks ok.
 
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This is the area I'm interested in. It may just be a wet spot.

Edit: nevermind, 3074 is what I was interested in, looks ok.
Yes, it rained this morning.
I took several pictures before reading the post—there can never be too many photos for future reference.
I captured various angles for you to see.
 

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Yes, I think what looked odd about it at first was just some water sitting in it.

As for the new/used parts, I would not be overly concerned. If they rebuilt the spindle, then the outer casing part would be old with new internals like shaft and bearings. It would not be unheard of the reuse the old spindle pulley either.

I can't recall what you said the original agreement was, and if they charged you for a new pulley specifically, then yes, a dispute may be in order. But review your bill carefully to see exactly what was charged.
 
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You are right. I thought it was supposed to be a new pulley, bolt, and washer, but it turned out to be used parts, including four bolts, yet they charged me as if they were new. I believe they billed $10 for the bolt and $5 for the washer, similar to before, with the total coming to $36x.xx. I removed the bill from the bag that had the old shaft and belt, and if I can’t find it, I’ll have to ask them to email it to me. Should I dispute the charges or also file a complaint with the BBB and Attorney General? This might damage my relationship with them, but they should be honest when using old parts while charging new part prices. The only new thing is "One Blade"

What else is there besides what I discovered above?
I think there was a misunderstanding somewhere. I posted in post 120 that a complete new spindle cost over $600, and that didn't include labor or pulley, as I recall. So, if it is repaired correctly, and it appears it is, for $300-400 I think you came out well.

After you've run it some you may want to retighten the nuts on top and bottom. Remember, the ones on the left are left-hand thread.
 
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Here are close-up shots of the cracks: three photos of the bottom sides and two of the top side, which is a bit tricky to capture.
If it was me and I saw those cracks on my deck, I would get them welded by a professional welder before putting the deck back on. I think if you leave them as is, they will cause more trouble in the future.

I am assuming the cracks are near some support or pulley that will continue and eventually rip out of the deck.

But the deck looks good otherwise.
 
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Sorry, I was so busy with many things, I think I might have found the receipt. I will take the picture or scan it tomorrow.
 
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Here is the receipt from Kubota.
They charged me $35.80 for the belt but refunded me $31.25 when I brought it back.
So they charged me $70.73 for the pre-owned shaft & $195 for labor.
 

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@Pat_USA I looked at the invoice, and to me all looks pretty good. Not cheap but all in all I think you came out okay.

So are you ready to reinstall the deck or are you planning to take it to a welder to repair the cracks?
 

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I don't know yet because I have so many things to do.
Will JB Weld help in this case?

My biggest problem, which I have been encountering for over 20 years, is that the police do not believe me and refuse to take any action, even when I offered to pay for the DNA test and cover all expenses. If I lied to them, they could arrest me—that was my challenge to the police.

Now I have realized that my water bills have been sabotaged for many years, so I have been overpaying for the bills, which also affects my sewer bills. I live alone and do not use that much water. Some billing statements are missing, and I have never thrown away my bills or any documents. The water company can only send me records from November 2024, which is fine. From the records I do have, I know I used less than 20 gallons per day—possibly even less than that—but I would accept 20 gallons based on the old records. I never looked at the details of my billing until this past Saturday and Sunday.

I mentioned before that I have a serious theft problem, which most people do not believe. I understand that my stories seem unrealistic, but I know they are real. I will show you how the billing reflects high usage, especially in February and March 2026, when everybody knew it would affect the sewer bills. I plan to file a police report tomorrow and see what happens. Will they believe me, or will they treat the theft reports as just incident reports like they always do? How could I have used 68, 139, 103, 87, 68, and 64 gallons per day? I don't know how they (the thieves) did it.

As I mentioned, my alarms never go off. I have over 30 cameras, and I have never caught them on tape. I have a system that records 24/7, and I have also tried trail cameras and hidden cameras. I have never caught them on tape, and the police would not do anything. That's why I am offering a BIG REWARD (talk to me privately) if someone can help me catch the thieves so I know who they are.

What did I do with water from January to March, and why did the volume decrease when the weather got nicer? Does that make sense? I had breast cancer surgery on June 1, 2026, so I didn't even do any gardening this year. Whatever grew by itself, I let nature take care of it. I watered my fruit trees, which I started last year, only a few times when the weather was extremely hot because it's the second year, so I don't really need to water them. It rained earlier this year & they all still survived.

I intended to build a barrier from scrap lumber as posts and attach metal wire with 1.5-inch staples (kind of my priority). I have a big yard, so I can adopt a guard dog to run and play in the backyard. If my belongings are still missing or if they can still sabotage my things, it means they are either invisible or have some sort of black magic. That is my conclusion. I have started seeing a psychiatrist so they can evaluate me to confirm that I don't have any mental problems, dementia, delusions, etc., so I can file a complaint at a higher level and get help to put the thieves in jail. Believe me, the thieves know my house and my belongings better than I do.

A guy who used to work for me over 20 years ago, with whom I had problems at the end, was the person who sent the thieves to my house, but he died in 2019, so I assume he died from COVID.

Please look at the usage in my water bill records.
What do you think? Would you believe me if I said I didn’t use all those high volumes?
Do you think the police will believe me?
I'm waiting for the missing bills from the water company so I can update the usage.
 

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@Pat_USA There are a lot of issues I am willing to try and help with, but this one about the water usage is over my head. I can't make heads or tails of it.

However as for the mower deck, this is not a case for jb weld. It would be worth it I think, while the deck is off, to have is repaired by a welder for better longevity of the repair. Shouldn't be too expensive, especially since you don't need it to look factory fresh, you just need something that will hold together.

Also, if you erect that fence, make sure the scrap wood you plan to use is treated lumber, otherwise the part in the ground will rot off in a short time.

Sorry I couldn't be of more assistance with your issue, but that one is out of my area of expertise and I don't want to give any bad advise regarding any legal matter.
 

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The hard part is cutting the pointy parts and the joints to extend the wood (circular saw or table saw). Then I will coat it with wood treatment first, then apply one or two coats of wood stain. I bought the wood treatment 2-3 years ago and found out it had been stolen when I ready to use it again; it was still a pretty full can. (a gal size). I haven't checked my fourth miter saw yet because they have already stolen three of them in the past. The third one was a bait; it might have been a Bosch that needed work. They didn't steal it right away; it just disappeared one day, and I didn't even know when it happened. This doesn't count the many other big tools and tons of miscellaneous tools and accessories.

I will try to see if someone can come to my house. I have a welder because two of the last guys used it to repair the crack on this rider and weld the muffler on my truck, so I don't have to haul it.

I intend to pound the wood into the ground, possibly 1.5 to 2 feet, and stick up about 6 feet, using 4-foot wire mesh if the dog can jump 4 feet. I might have to add 2 feet more to cover the area that a thief could come from the back. I'm not sure about the front yet; if I leave the gate open (during the night & when I'm not home during the day) and use a rope long enough for the dog to run to the front door and the vehicle parked by the front door, including the rider, which I parked between the door and the vehicle. But I'm afraid the dog could run to the sidewalk when people walk by, too. I need to go to training classes with the dog.
I intend to use scrap lumber that was used to support the woods, which mostly comes in 4-foot lengths. I picked up some more yesterday and still need more. I hope my city won't bother me with this barrier, as they are pretty strict. I might add wood at the bottom to stabilize the posts.
Any more recommendations?
 

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@Pat_USA There are a lot of issues I am willing to try and help with, but this one about the water usage is over my head. I can't make heads or tails of it.

However as for the mower deck, this is not a case for jb weld. It would be worth it I think, while the deck is off, to have is repaired by a welder for better longevity of the repair. Shouldn't be too expensive, especially since you don't need it to look factory fresh, you just need something that will hold together.

Also, if you erect that fence, make sure the scrap wood you plan to use is treated lumber, otherwise the part in the ground will rot off in a short time.

Sorry I couldn't be of more assistance with your issue, but that one is out of my area of expertise and I don't want to give any bad advise regarding any legal matter.
You’re right; it cracks at the point where the decking hooks to the rider on the right side, so it’s important. If I had known, I would have had Kubota weld it when they repaired it.
Over 20 years ago, I stopped by a repair shop to weld a minor steel crate for a steel floor register (on an older home). They charged me $45, which I thought was too much, so they lowered it to $25, and I had them weld it while I waited.
I have a Lincoln Electric Pro-Mig 140, which might take a while for the job, or should I take it to professionals?
The decking is heavier than I am, and I used a ramp to push, pull, and swing it to load it in and out of my SUV.
Is welding easy to learn? I want to learn it too.
Is it easy to learn from YouTube?
I should clean and weld from under the deck, right? Oh, the thieves stole 2 of the welding helmets. Is sunglasses good enough? They also stole a few more brand-name sunglasses too.
How thick should it be? Or should I let a professional handle it if I can’t find someone nearby to teach me (and pay them for help to teach me?
How much do you think they’ll charge to weld this?
If the shop charged me $45 for a minor weld that included sanding, but I don’t need sanding on this one, let it be thick since appearance is not important, I’m afraid they might ask for $100 or more.
What steps should I take to prepare, scrape, and sand the surrounding area?

The last photo (3137) shows the top side of the deck where the crack is around the mounting post on R
The one before the last photo (3053) is the location of the crack on the overall decking.
Do I need to knock the top side of the decking to narrow the gap of the crack? Like pic 3077.
 

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I would not use just glasses for welding unless you want to be blind and super sunburned for a few days, possibly blind for the rest of your life.

The helmet and lenses are there to protect your eyes and skin from the weld arc that is emitting UV radiation.

I sort of know how to weld and would NOT attempt that repair myself. A good professional or skilled amateur with a lot of experience could get it done in a much more permanent manner than you ever could since you not have the skills.

There may be a mobile welder that would come to your house to do it but that might cost more than at a shop. Since you have the dealer involved already, you might ask if they could send someone to your house to weld it using your welder or theirs if they have a mobile welder. That dealer may also be able to suggest a tradesman to perform the work for you.

Whoever welds it will need to know if that square nut is really required for the deck to function since it will be in the way of the weld (I think).

Another idea is to go to a local high school or trade school and talk to someone in the welding department to see if they can get someone to help you get it welded.

Good luck with it and you can always get a quote for the repair before you get the work done so you should know the cost before the repair is done.
 
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Welding without a hood is not a good idea, as Russell explained above.

I am no expert welder but I can both arc and mig weld. Mig welding, which you have the machine for, is not very hard to learn, but I would recommend not learning on this mower deck. Additionally, it is hard to mig weld outdoors. It will be hard not to melt that thin rusted metal when welding, which is why this job is better left to a professional.

However, you can save some money by cleaning the rust and paint off yourself. I would recommend a wire wheel on a drill, like this image.

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Thank you to Russell King and Caden.
Now that the season is coming to an end, I still have high grass and weeds. Since they knew I had breast cancer surgery and the repair guy damaged my riding mower, I think they won't be too strict with me.

Yes, I have wire brushes. I also have the one in the picture, but I find it runs randomly and is hard to control. I have a better one that I bought in bulk ("Cheaper by the Dozen), but many of them always got stolen, sometimes all of them, so I stopped buying if I don't need it.

I will try to shop around. The bad thing about Kubota is that they often say, "We don't know; it depends on how long it takes."

I have so many things to take care of to keep myself busy, like dealing with the water and sewer company, fighting with the police, prepping wood, etc. None of these tasks have been touched today. My old iPhone, which I just installed a new battery a few weeks ago, charges super slowly and sometimes doesn't work properly. I need to stop by the library to print my tax return since I can't print it full page at home. Then I have a 5:30 PM appointment at Apple Care.

I will try to compare prices. I can haul it in my SUV or truck (I already bought roadside assistance, but I'm still afraid to drive).


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I’ll check it again if the crack is near an important part, but it needs to be welded from under the deck, right?
Should I pound it down to close the gap?
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***** Please confirm these two questions for me
so I can prepare it myself and save on labor costs. *****

I will keep you up to date when it's done.

Love you all for helping someone in need.

Here is the Kubota price; see attachment:
 

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It probably should have weld put on both the top and bottom.

You could try hammer, also I think you (maybe) could use a pipe wrench or large adjustable wrench to pry it back down by bitting on the piece standing up the hooks to the tractor and prying in the appropriate direction.

If I were fixing it, I would pry/lever/hammer thing back down, and get a couple quick tacks on it with one hand while holding pressure down on it with the other hand/tool. Then, once the tacks are holding it, go about welding as normal, alternating which side I welded on so that the heat will not warp/distort the part out of square/ correct alignment.
 
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Also, if you have the paint and rust removed, I don't think it should take more than 20 -30 minutes to repair that.
 
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It probably should have weld put on both the top and bottom.

You could try hammer, also I think you (maybe) could use a pipe wrench or large adjustable wrench to pry it back down by bitting on the piece standing up the hooks to the tractor and prying in the appropriate direction.

If I were fixing it, I would pry/lever/hammer thing back down, and get a couple quick tacks on it with one hand while holding pressure down on it with the other hand/tool. Then, once the tacks are holding it, go about welding as normal, alternating which side I welded on so that the heat will not warp/distort the part out of square/ correct alignment.
I’m not totally sure I fully understand this, but I think I can handle it.
I need to sand down the orange paint finish around the crack on the top side, right???
I have paint, primer, and rust remover (a few types, though one isn’t at my house).
Should I start by cleaning both sides, top & bottom, with water?

I also have a bottle of something—I can’t remember the name since I’m not home—that can be applied to metal without removing the rust before painting (I think it’s supposed to prime and maybe dissolve the rust).
I’ll take a picture when I get home tonight, or tomorrow if it’s too late.

Here are the steps:
1. Clean and rinse both sides with water and let dry.
2. Use rust remover.
3. Sand the crack areas on both sides.
4. Pound the crack area to close the gap as much as possible.
5. Welding: I don’t think sanding the bottom side after welding is necessary for appearance—it makes it stronger and saves labor costs.
6. Spray primer or use the primer I mentioned above under the decking.
7. Prime the top and paint the area around the crack.
8. Spray paint under the deck.

Is this the right order?
Did I miss anything or need to add something?

I'm at the Apple Store, so I can reply soon. I’m leaving now & heading to the library because I switched my plan.
I changed my plan again because a lady just called to say she will mail me my tax return, and I’ll receive it this weekend. So, I will go home and take care of other things.