Increasing L6060 loader and BH lift capacity

[Iguide]

Well that is the problem with the written word as opposed to the spoken word. Oh I was not offended and feel a bit bothered that is comes off that way. With only able to rely on what one writes is what one responds to. Now I under stand that you know the differences between L and L60 but to me anyways that was far from clear from what you wrote. My previous tractor was an L without a cab but as I got older and being in northern NH it got so it was not as much fun plowing snow at -30F as it used to be when I was younger and full of Piss & Vinegar. So the move up to the GL. I personally don't know if the 805 will fit a L6060 I just know those loaders are designed for the 35,40 &47 L60. So I did not take what you wrote as offensive and did not mean to reply in any way that was meant to indicate so. Just different people in different parts of the country speaking the same language and not understanding different patterns of speech and different colloquialisms. . So all good here hope it is there. Be Well,, Wayne

 

[Iguide]

with out damaging your tractor... get a bigger tractor.

what isnt being told to you by these youtubers shilling for mahindra tym kioti etc is that those increased lifts are breaking loaders breaking frames putting machines and operators into very dangerous risk of tipping and rolling. they have no interest in telling you this as they are being paid to promote a product.

the loader limits kubota puts on the loaders and chasis are for your safety primarily and then the safety of your machine.

What you reference about other brands sounds reasonable. However the people that I am referring to are dedicated Kubota owners that are pushing or doing videos on this subject is the better way to do it. One of the things that I have seen is Hydroplus that actually makes larger cylinders & pumps for compact and subcompact JD & Kubota's. He has studied the engineering of larger more powerful parts and has a warranty on them, Do a search and you will find his Youtube and webpage to look it over yourself. Makes nothing for my size or larger tractor. Thanks, Wayne

 

[BBFarmer]

Well that is the problem with the written word as opposed to the spoken word. Oh I was not offended and feel a bit bothered that is comes off that way. With only able to rely on what one writes is what one responds to.

Yes sir. I completely understand. Without the tone, It can be difficult to tell which way the conversation is going. My apologies, I was quite sure you were yelling at me in a derogatory tone ....no no I'm 100% kidding. All good over here sir.

My previous tractor was an L without a cab but as I got older and being in northern NH it got so it was not as much fun plowing snow at -30F as it used to be when I was younger and full of Piss & Vinegar.

Same here. Similar situation. I loved our L3301. But having to cut weekly in the 110+ degree mississippi summer took its toll on me. Had to have some a/c.

Can't wrap my brain around the winter weather y'all deal with up there. That's a whole other world to us down south.

@RCW posted a pic a while back of what I thought was him clearing snow during a blizzard on Mt Everest. Ended up being just him in his NY driveway.....imagine you might've looked something like that

 

[Iguide]

Yes sir. I completely understand. Without the tone, It can be difficult to tell which way the conversation is going. My apologies, I was quite sure you were yelling at me in a derogatory tone ....no no I'm 100% kidding. All good over here sir.


Same here. Similar situation. I loved our L3301. But having to cut weekly in the 110+ degree mississippi summer took its toll on me. Had to have some a/c.

Can't wrap my brain around the winter weather y'all deal with up there. That's a whole other world to us down south.

@RCW posted a pic a while back of what I thought was him clearing snow during a blizzard on Mt Everest. Ended up being just him in his NY driveway.....imagine you might've looked something like that

Well fair is fair. There are days when I'm glad to have AC also, though I don't have to live in 110F. When we get in the low to mid 80s I look for the AC. Hottest I've ever seen up here is 98/99F but nothing over 100F and the humidity you have down there, No way for me. We get humid up here but not as bad as down there I'm sure. But I'll make you an offer, I'll come down there for a week at you hottest time of the year if you come up here in January for what is usually our coldest. The worst I've ever lived through is -48F. If you did not have a way to plug in you vehicle to keep it warm you had to start it every 3 to 4 hrs to let it warm up. If you didn't you weren't getting it started... That is you could say, just a bit on the chilly side.

My past L was a 3800 got a lot done with that little tractor but not as comfortable as what we each have now. Be Well.

 

[JonM]

What you reference about other brands sounds reasonable. However the people that I am referring to are dedicated Kubota owners that are pushing or doing videos on this subject is the better way to do it. One of the things that I have seen is Hydroplus that actually makes larger cylinders & pumps for compact and subcompact JD & Kubota's. He has studied the engineering of larger more powerful parts and has a warranty on them, Do a search and you will find his Youtube and webpage to look it over yourself. Makes nothing for my size or larger tractor. Thanks, Wayne

the thing that is overlooked is the built in safety where the hydraulics stop before the fel can damage something. the damage wont show up the first time or may not even the 100th time but the stress is there and it does incremental damage over time leading to failure.

for instance your digging with the bucket and hit an object it cant really lift and you go to lift not knowing this the fel and tractor is now beyound its designed limits and depending on how much beyound is going to determine the damage.

its the same as towing overweight. you can certainly do it but if you make it a habit bad things will happen.

im not trying to talk you out of it i got no dog in your hunt

 

[NCL4701]

Agree with @MOOTS, check the pressure and adjust to high end of range if it isn’t already there.

Also agree with those several who have pointed out loader capacity is more a function of frame size than engine HP.

Past that, tractors are kind of like bank accounts. Unless you’re a very rare person there’s always someone with a bigger one and someone with a smaller one. I have friends that laugh at my little 47hp compact open station while they ride around in their huge cabbed ag tractors and CTL’s. I also have friends with subcompacts and lawn tractors who envy my giant beast of a machine. If it’s doing what you need it to do, I wouldn’t worry about what some other guy’s machine will do unless you’re in a market for another one.

 

[Iguide]

the thing that is overlooked is the built in safety where the hydraulics stop before the fel can damage something. the damage wont show up the first time or may not even the 100th time but the stress is there and it does incremental damage over time leading to failure.

for instance your digging with the bucket and hit an object it cant really lift and you go to lift not knowing this the fel and tractor is now beyound its designed limits and depending on how much beyound is going to determine the damage.

its the same as towing overweight. you can certainly do it but if you make it a habit bad things will happen.

im not trying to talk you out of it i got no dog in your hunt

Oh I understand you not putting in your .02$ to influence. I was trying to understand what you were saying. Thanks

 

[Iguide]

Agree with @MOOTS, check the pressure and adjust to high end of range if it isn’t already there.

Also agree with those several who have pointed out loader capacity is more a function of frame size than engine HP.

Past that, tractors are kind of like bank accounts. Unless you’re a very rare person there’s always someone with a bigger one and someone with a smaller one. I have friends that laugh at my little 47hp compact open station while they ride around in their huge cabbed ag tractors and CTL’s. I also have friends with subcompacts and lawn tractors who envy my giant beast of a machine. If it’s doing what you need it to do, I wouldn’t worry about what some other guy’s machine will do unless you’re in a market for another one.

Nope. Got this one in 21. Generally very happy with it other than getting my fragile ego bruised a bit by those others. LOL

 

[Elliott in GA]

FWIW, when comparing loader lift capacity - you also have to take into account the range in which the loader functions. By range, I mean not only maximum lift height, but also the distance the load is carried away from (in front of) the tractor. Loaders with longer arms will not lift as much, but they can be much more useful - especially when dumping into a walled container (dumpster, truck bed, trailer and etc.). It could be that your Kubota is simply engineered for more range/distance versus other brands that design more for weight.

You may have already considered this issue - or not.

 

[Iguide]

FWIW, when comparing loader lift capacity - you also have to take into account the range in which the loader functions. By range, I mean not only maximum lift height, but also the distance the load is carried away from (in front of) the tractor. Loaders with longer arms will not lift as much, but they can be much more useful - especially when dumping into a walled container (dumpster, truck bed, trailer and etc.). It could be that your Kubota is simply engineered for more range/distance versus other brands that design more for weight.

You may have already considered this issue - or not.

Well yes and no. I did by looking at the different lifting capacities and all were listed at the pins. What I did not consider and what it sounds like you referring to is the length of the arms in relation to their lifting and anchoring points. No I did not think of that in the least. Good Point! Thanks

 

[McMXi]

Well yes and no. I did by looking at the different lifting capacities and all were listed at the pins. What I did not consider and what it sounds like you referring to is the length of the arms in relation to their lifting and anchoring points. No I did not think of that in the least. Good Point! Thanks

The equivalent tractor to your L6060 with the LA1055 loader is probably an NX6010CH with the KL6010 loader. The Kioti loader has a higher rating at the pivot pin of 2,761lb compared to 2,361lb, but the LA1055 has 7" more reach at the ground, (Kioti doesn't list the reach at max height but Kubota does), and the max lift height is 4-1/2" higher in favor of the LA1055. Also, the breakout force of 2,990lb for the Kioti is listed at the pivot pin, but it's 3,171lb for the Kubota 20" forward of the pivot pin.

So as @Elliott in GA stated, some manufacturers focus on numbers that will impress the customer and others focus on the bigger picture. I'm currently using the LA1065 on my MX to load dirt into a dump trailer. Given the height of the side panels, and the location of the fenders, and the fact that I'm nowhere near the max load with the weight of the bucket (from the M6060) and dirt, it's the ability to reach up and over and dump the load that's important to me, rather than the ability to raise 2,761lb at the pin.

 

[Elliott in GA]

Well yes and no. I did by looking at the different lifting capacities and all were listed at the pins. What I did not consider and what it sounds like you referring to is the length of the arms in relation to their lifting and anchoring points. No I did not think of that in the least. Good Point! Thanks

You might want to watch this Messick's video; it covers many of the trade-offs in design/functionality.

 

[BBFarmer]

The worst I've ever lived through is -48F. If you did not have a way to plug in you vehicle to keep it warm you had to start it every 3 to 4 hrs to let it warm up. If you didn't you weren't getting it started... That is you could say, just a bit on the chilly side.

See, thats what im talking about. -48!?!? I'm basically worthless in the low 20s. Can't move around properly, continuous complaining, too cold to even think, etc......

 

[SDT]

Buy a gauge and check your pressures. My MX was a few hundred psi low of the given safe range. I adjusted to be on the higher end of the given range. No problems picking things up now.
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Bingo.

Nothing wrong with so doing but increasing pressures beyond design specifications is certainly not recommended.

Reasons should be obvious.

 

[Iguide]

Bingo.

Nothing wrong with so doing but increasing pressures beyond design specifications is certainly not recommended.

Reasons should be obvious.

Yes it is.

 

[Iguide]

See, thats what im talking about. -48!?!? I'm basically worthless in the low 20s. Can't move around properly, continuous complaining, too cold to even think, etc......

And I die from heat stroke over 85F..

 

[Iguide]

You might want to watch this Messick's video; it covers many of the trade-offs in design/functionality.

Great video. Thank you very much..

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

What a completely BS fan boy statement. You kubota and deere guys have to make things up to feel better about yourselves. I guess that's what happens when you overspend for things that can do 75% the other brands can

I've never had to ban someone so fast, this will be fun!

And for even more fun, I put him on a spam list, he's going to be having a hard time getting on any forum from now on.

 

[D2Cat]

I've never had to ban someone so fast, this will be fun!

And for even more fun, I put him on a spam list, he's going to be having a hard time getting on any forum from now on.

Probably in the family of characters who frequent forums with their persistent, predatory, personality in a rude and unmannerly method of telling us they have an inferiority complex!

 

[Iguide]

I've never had to ban someone so fast, this will be fun!

And for even more fun, I put him on a spam list, he's going to be having a hard time getting on any forum from now on.

More of a question than a comment. When did this all happen as I was not notified nor could I find that rather rude comment? Thanks again for saving my bacon !!!