Hydraulic top link

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I'm thinking about adding a hydraulic top link to my B7200. There will be times when I don't want it to move after it's been adjusted (ballast box), and other times I might want to use it in float mode.

Can a hydraulic top link be used with a hydraulic lock be used in float mode or are there check valves that would prevent this ?

Is a the hydraulic lock feature really necessary ?

Apart from length range, cat 1 and with our without hydraulic lock, is there anything else that I should look for ?
 

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Mine has the lock but even if it didn't, my rear remote doesn't float when centered. Guess you don't need a lock but do need a remote that has a float position for that to work.
 
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I'm thinking about adding a hydraulic top link to my B7200. There will be times when I don't want it to move after it's been adjusted (ballast box), and other times I might want to use it in float mode.

Can a hydraulic top link be used with a hydraulic lock be used in float mode or are there check valves that would prevent this ?

Is a the hydraulic lock feature really necessary ?

Apart from length range, cat 1 and with our without hydraulic lock, is there anything else that I should look for ?
Float and lock valves are mutually exclusive.

Without a lock of some sort the Summit valve you have will leakdown very rapidly. One workaround is set the top link position and unplug both hoses. Not convenient but it will lock the cylinder.

Dan
 
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I have a float detent valve that I use on either the toplink or sidelink depending on what I’m doing. Neither cylinder has check valves. There’s good and bad to that.

Good: I can float the toplink to allow gauge wheeled three point implements to follow the contour of very uneven terrain without binding or having to remove the toplink or replace with a chain. Swapping hoses to put the sidelink on the float valve, I can float the tilt to follow the contour of the ground, which is quite handy for some grading operations such as pulling gravel in from the edges of a gravel road or cleaning ditches.

Bad: Valves leak (at least the valves for our little tractors do) so without check valves, the cylinders won’t hold position forever. Whether the leak down rate is problematic depends on how leaky your specific valve is (I can’t predict that but others may be able to), what you’re doing, and your expectations.

Workarounds/practicalities of using top/tilt without check valves:
1) Sidelink: I always run the hydraulic sidelink. I moved the manually adjustable sidelink to the left side and adjusted it such that the hitch is level with the hydraulic link is full up. If I’m running something such as a bush hog where I want it to stay level, I bump it up every once in a while whether it needs it or not. The leakage on mine isn’t bad IMO, so it isn’t annoying to me but YMMV. If it really bothered me, I could swap back to the manual links when I really want to “set and forget” for some lengthy time, but I never do it.
2) Toplink: My toplink is pretty short. It goes just a bit past level at full extension for most of my implements. For something such as my chipper where it really doesn’t much matter, I don’t care if it leaks to full extension and stays there forever. My boxblade and back blade, the toplink attachment point on the implement is forward of the lower link attachment points, so the hydraulic toplink will go past level; a necessary function for those implements. For the blades, I’m messing with the toplink routinely throughout the work, so leak down is not an issue at all. I have one implement, my skidding winch, where my hydraulic toplink is too short to achieve proper angle, but it’s a “set and forget” implement where no adjustment to the hitch is needed once it’s set up. For that one implement, I remove the hydraulic toplink and replace with the manual toplink. It’s one pin and two quick connect hoses to swap toplinks; easiest implement swap I have.

I’m aware most seem to prefer check valves. For my use, particularly grading work, I would not trade the ability to float for eliminating leak down. IMO, you have to consider what your uses will be and determine what setup best matches your needs.
 
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I have a float detent valve that I use on either the toplink or sidelink depending on what I’m doing. Neither cylinder has check valves. There’s good and bad to that.

Good: I can float the toplink to allow gauge wheeled three point implements to follow the contour of very uneven terrain without binding or having to remove the toplink or replace with a chain. Swapping hoses to put the sidelink on the float valve, I can float the tilt to follow the contour of the ground, which is quite handy for some grading operations such as pulling gravel in from the edges of a gravel road or cleaning ditches.

Bad: Valves leak (at least the valves for our little tractors do) so without check valves, the cylinders won’t hold position forever. Whether the leak down rate is problematic depends on how leaky your specific valve is (I can’t predict that but others may be able to), what you’re doing, and your expectations.

Workarounds/practicalities of using top/tilt without check valves:
1) Sidelink: I always run the hydraulic sidelink. I moved the manually adjustable sidelink to the left side and adjusted it such that the hitch is level with the hydraulic link is full up. If I’m running something such as a bush hog where I want it to stay level, I bump it up every once in a while whether it needs it or not. The leakage on mine isn’t bad IMO, so it isn’t annoying to me but YMMV. If it really bothered me, I could swap back to the manual links when I really want to “set and forget” for some lengthy time, but I never do it.
2) Toplink: My toplink is pretty short. It goes just a bit past level at full extension for most of my implements. For something such as my chipper where it really doesn’t much matter, I don’t care if it leaks to full extension and stays there forever. My boxblade and back blade, the toplink attachment point on the implement is forward of the lower link attachment points, so the hydraulic toplink will go past level; a necessary function for those implements. For the blades, I’m messing with the toplink routinely throughout the work, so leak down is not an issue at all. I have one implement, my skidding winch, where my hydraulic toplink is too short to achieve proper angle, but it’s a “set and forget” implement where no adjustment to the hitch is needed once it’s set up. For that one implement, I remove the hydraulic toplink and replace with the manual toplink. It’s one pin and two quick connect hoses to swap toplinks; easiest implement swap I have.

I’m aware most seem to prefer check valves. For my use, particularly grading work, I would not trade the ability to float for eliminating leak down. IMO, you have to consider what your uses will be and determine what setup best matches your needs.
Well ststed. I can speak to his valve and a hydraulic top link - without a check valve leakdown will be very problematic.

Dan
 
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I don't have a hydraulic top link and would not want one - but, if I did, I can't really see why you would need for it to float. If you have an implement that does not require pressure from the toplink it's better to just run without the toplink. Or, use a cheap float link like are on most rear mowers.

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I don't have a hydraulic top link and would not want one - but, if I did, I can't really see why you would need for it to float. If you have an implement that does not require pressure from the toplink it's better to just run without the toplink. Or, use a cheap float link like are on most rear mowers.

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I don't have a hydraulic top link but do have the cheap float link on some of my stuff. I like having the top link connected even with a floating implement. It's nice to be able to lift the implement when needed.
 
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It's nice to be able to lift the implement
Good point.

Me being cheap and liking to keep things simple, I tend to prefer a regular old manual toplink that will never leak down or change position unless you want it to.
 
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Good point.

Me being cheap and liking to keep things simple, I tend to prefer a regular old manual toplink that will never leak down or change position unless you want it to.
You should try one sometime - beats the crap out of a manual top link.

Dan
 
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You should try one sometime
I have used one on a big John Deere at work. Not saying they aren't worth it to some people but I just prefer the manual.

Side note, I defiantly see the benefit to hydro if using your tractor to run a bale spear off the 3ph.
 
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The summit top link i bought has check valves.
The website description seems to suggest that i would need to order them separately but they came installed already.
 
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I have a float detent valve that I use on either the toplink or sidelink depending on what I’m doing. Neither cylinder has check valves. There’s good and bad to that.

Good: I can float the toplink to allow gauge wheeled three point implements to follow the contour of very uneven terrain without binding or having to remove the toplink or replace with a chain. Swapping hoses to put the sidelink on the float valve, I can float the tilt to follow the contour of the ground, which is quite handy for some grading operations such as pulling gravel in from the edges of a gravel road or cleaning ditches.

Bad: Valves leak (at least the valves for our little tractors do) so without check valves, the cylinders won’t hold position forever. Whether the leak down rate is problematic depends on how leaky your specific valve is (I can’t predict that but others may be able to), what you’re doing, and your expectations.

Workarounds/practicalities of using top/tilt without check valves:
1) Sidelink: I always run the hydraulic sidelink. I moved the manually adjustable sidelink to the left side and adjusted it such that the hitch is level with the hydraulic link is full up. If I’m running something such as a bush hog where I want it to stay level, I bump it up every once in a while whether it needs it or not. The leakage on mine isn’t bad IMO, so it isn’t annoying to me but YMMV. If it really bothered me, I could swap back to the manual links when I really want to “set and forget” for some lengthy time, but I never do it.
2) Toplink: My toplink is pretty short. It goes just a bit past level at full extension for most of my implements. For something such as my chipper where it really doesn’t much matter, I don’t care if it leaks to full extension and stays there forever. My boxblade and back blade, the toplink attachment point on the implement is forward of the lower link attachment points, so the hydraulic toplink will go past level; a necessary function for those implements. For the blades, I’m messing with the toplink routinely throughout the work, so leak down is not an issue at all. I have one implement, my skidding winch, where my hydraulic toplink is too short to achieve proper angle, but it’s a “set and forget” implement where no adjustment to the hitch is needed once it’s set up. For that one implement, I remove the hydraulic toplink and replace with the manual toplink. It’s one pin and two quick connect hoses to swap toplinks; easiest implement swap I have.

I’m aware most seem to prefer check valves. For my use, particularly grading work, I would not trade the ability to float for eliminating leak down. IMO, you have to consider what your uses will be and determine what setup best matches your needs.
Thanks for the detailed reply and examples. For me, having not tried most of these things, this is like reading a good instruction manual.
 

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One other option that your inner badger may like is to get a separate DPOCV and use it when needed and bypass it when floating is required. You would need a couple of extra hoses to use.

Here is an example that could be mounted to that large box you have
 
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I have used one on a big John Deere at work. Not saying they aren't worth it to some people but I just prefer the manual.
Hell no! 😂 I would never be without hydraulic top and side links and a QH. The side link is useful, but the top link is essential, and for so many reasons.
 
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One other option that your inner badger may like is to get a separate DPOCV and use it when needed and bypass it when floating is required. You would need a couple of extra hoses to use.

Here is an example that could be mounted to that large box you have
That's a neat idea, having the DPOCV separate and easily taken in/out of the loop via hoses.
 

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Hell no! 😂 I would never be without hydraulic top and side links and a QH. The side link is useful, but the top link is essential, and for so many reasons.
Damn, now I gotta get one
 
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