How do I NOT Break This??

TerryKing

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Hi Yet Again,

Wish there was a Sticky for "How Do I take THIS apart Without BREAKING it??"

Just the fuel filter on B7100 etc. You know:
FilterHow.jpg


That ring with the bumps on it unscrews, right? CounterClockwise like it should, Right?

Hand/rag doesn't move it. LIGHT grab with Visegrips wiggles it. Only that one bolt holds it in place. REALLY don't want to Break That.
Maybe there is a Tool for That? What do YOU do??

Mine has metal bowl so I can't see the element. Probably it Ain't Broke and Ain't clogged and it can wait until Spring...??

Thanks for Listening to Newbies :)
 
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Terry, you have it figured out, it's just on there tight! If you have a pliers that opens wide enough to get around the nut you can get a better grip, but only use the pliers as a gripper, not a torque wrench! Gently try to get the nut to move while applying pressure counter-clockwise. Be gentle.
 
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I had that same issue last winter. Temps dropped below zero f for a week and my fuel gelled. I had to get it off. Seems like there should be a wrench that fits that diameter and notches, but I couldn’t find one in my tight time restraints. I used a strap wrench and had to REALLY crank on that ring to spin it loose!
 
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I’ve had better luck using a flathead screwdriver or chisel and lightly tapping it to turn it. The issue with vice grips is when you get it tight enough to not slip it’s deforming the entire ring against the threads.
 
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Hi Yet Again,

Wish there was a Sticky for "How Do I take THIS apart Without BREAKING it??"

Just the fuel filter on B7100 etc. You know:
View attachment 139990

That ring with the bumps on it unscrews, right? CounterClockwise like it should, Right?

Hand/rag doesn't move it. LIGHT grab with Visegrips wiggles it. Only that one bolt holds it in place. REALLY don't want to Break That.
Maybe there is a Tool for That? What do YOU do??

Mine has metal bowl so I can't see the element. Probably it Ain't Broke and Ain't clogged and it can wait until Spring...??

Thanks for Listening to Newbies :)
 

fried1765

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Place the housing in a vise, with soft wood blocks on both sides to protect the casting from damage..
Use a LARGE pair of channel lock pliers to remove the ring.
Tapping gently with a wide blade screwdriver, or blunt cold chisel, to loosen the ring, can also work.
 
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Just like anything round, you want to grip it with as much force as you can all the way around without squeezing it at only two points. Strap wrench or pliers with round jaws.

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Just like anything round, you want to grip it with as much force as you can all the way around without squeezing it at only two points. Strap wrench or pliers with round jaws.

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filter wrench is a good idea. lots of different designs.
I use a large set of channel lock pliers if a rag and hand doesn't do it.

I take mine off yearly (regular maintenance) so hand and rag works fine.

I never have any water but find more and more every year the metal screen stops the heavy green snot stuff (algae) that seems to get worse and worse every year as this bio diesel crap seems to get worse.

FYI... last weekend on a L3301 I removed the bowl and metal screen and had a worrisome amount of green snot. No water just snot. And machine gets about 300 hrs use a year, always use additives summer in summer , winter in winter, stored indoors in vented machine shop, fuel kept very fresh (kinda fussy about fresh fuel, etc.... I hate this biodiesel craze
 
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To add to the other suggestions...

There are many ways to accomplish the task at hand. All tasks for that matter.

How about using two 1/4" thick pieces of mild steel flatbar, (square shank steel punches would work aswell) that fits the inside indentations of the collar, then place the jaws of large channel locks (or a large pipe wrench) on those for leverage points.

A Coil-Over Spanner-Wrench will also work.
 
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Just like anything round, you want to grip it with as much force as you can all the way around without squeezing it at only two points. Strap wrench or pliers with round jaws.
@Dustball : I've found several wrenches like your photo, but their smallest limit is 2-3/8 inches or more. The fuel filter outer ring is about 2-1/8 . Anyone seen a different smaller size?

"without squeezing it at only two points." is the main point. Strap wrench meets that I think..
 
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I just use a large channel lock pliers or oil filter pliers similar to what dustball posted.

Do you have a harbor freight near by?

either of these will work (from harbor freight), these are what I use. The red handles doyles are simple to use if you make sure that the tip pushes against one of the raised edges of the filter lock ring.

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fried1765

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@Dustball : I've found several wrenches like your photo, but their smallest limit is 2-3/8 inches or more. The fuel filter outer ring is about 2-1/8 . Anyone seen a different smaller size?

"without squeezing it at only two points." is the main point. Strap wrench meets that I think..
Don't over think it!
A properly sized set of channel lock pliers will do the job, .......and will have many other uses.
 
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The ultimate ,perfect tool.....
would be a very deep, castled socket that 'meshes' with the 'nubs' on the ring.......
as it fits 'like a glove' ,NO problem removing the ring
 

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OK, I Like Klein tools...
I like Klein Tools too. (y)

I've had a couple of plastic handled strap wrenches for decades, the ones with the smooth rubber strap. When I installed a remote fuel filter on the BX I bought the steel handled strap wrench shown below and have used it on lots of filters and even a few days ago on the pump and heater fittings for my hot tub. It's not the best tool for every job, but it works well if you have clearance for the handle.

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Spanner wrenches are thin and slip easily, though they do work well on coil-overs.

Either a Strap Wrench (infinitely adjustable and very even pressure but can break) or a Filter Plier works well, however I'd suggest two, one for the filter body and one for the housing, then use equal and opposite pressure on each (turn them opposite ways) to not put strain on the nipples or fuel lines. (I have no experience doing this on a tractor as I'm new to tractors, but do have experience in the automotive industry; it should work similarly I'm guessing.)