Hooking up third function, rear remotes, and a backhoe line.

[TheOldHokie]

So the P is (B), T is (D), and PB is (C)?

Is that a kubota kit? Mine is from summit. I see your point about maybe being cramped but I'll just have to cross that bridge when I get ther as this backhoe mated to this machine will be a one off.

Thats a picture of the OEM remote outlets. The valves are actually under the seat and they are operated by levers next to the right side of the seat.

Dan

 

[poseidon18]

Thats a picture of the OEM remote outlets. The valves are actually under the seat and they are operated by levers next to the right side of the seat.

Dan

Help! I just tried hooking up the backhoe since I routed it the way you showed and as soon as I hook it up and start the tractor its like the pump is working and the backhoe has zero function, it even takes away some loader movement.

 

[TheOldHokie]

Help! I just tried hooking up the backhoe since I routed it the way you showed and as soon as I hook it up and start the tractor its like the pump is working and the backhoe has zero function, it even takes away some loader movement.

You crossed something in the plumbing. Or perhaps one of yoir remotes is not in neutral. Sounds like you have the neutral circuit blocked.

Dan

 

[poseidon18]

You crossed something in the plumbing. Or perhaps one of yoir remotes is not in neutral. Sounds like you have the neutral circuit blocked.

Dan

Routing is correct according to your diagram, I've looked it over many times now, how would I know which remote isn't neutral?

 

[poseidon18]

You crossed something in the plumbing. Or perhaps one of yoir remotes is not in neutral. Sounds like you have the neutral circuit blocked.

Dan

Loader will lift with the tractor on but won't lower

 

[TheOldHokie]

Routing is correct according to your diagram, I've looked it over many times now, how would I know which remote isn't neutral?

That was just one possibilty. Disconnect the back hoe and loop the tractor side hoses together. You may not have the backhoe couplers fully connected. Happens pretty frequently.

Dan

 

[poseidon18]

That was just one possibilty. Disconnect the back hoe and loop the tractor side hoses together. You may not have the backhoe couplers fully connected. Happens pretty frequently.

Dan

When I reconnect the couplers on the tractor it works fine, as soon as I hook up the hoe it acts up

 

[poseidon18]

That was just one possibilty. Disconnect the back hoe and loop the tractor side hoses together. You may not have the backhoe couplers fully connected. Happens pretty frequently.

Dan

Also worth noting, I have iso flat face couplers for the hoe

 

[ayak]

Did it work in its most simple configuration? Add stuff in one by one and test functionality. Also keep in mind, the 3-point hitch lever (on right side of your seat)-MUST be all the way forward (down) anytime the backhoe is in use.

 

[TheOldHokie]

When I reconnect the couplers on the tractor it works fine, as soon as I hook up the hoe it acts up

You have found the problem and its not your new plumbing.

What that tells you is there is no neutral flow through the backhoe valve. Make sure ALL of the backhoe valves are in neutral.

Dan

 

[poseidon18]

You have found the problem and its not your new plumbing.

What that tells you is there is no neutral flow through the backhoe valve. Make sure ALL of the backhoe valves are in neutral.

Dan

You mean all the controls are centered?

 

[TheOldHokie]

You mean all the controls are centered?

Yes. The outrigger valves have caused this problem in the past but it could be any if them.

Dan

 

[poseidon18]

Yes. The outrigger valves have caused this problem in the past but it could be any if them.

Dan

Well I've played with it and then some but still the same

 

[TheOldHokie]

Well I've played with it and then some but still the same

Somethng is blocking the neutral flow through the backhoe vakve. If its not one or more of the spools in the valve it must be one of the hoe side couplers.

Dan

 

[poseidon18]

Somethng is blocking the neutral flow through the backhoe vakve. If its not one or more of the spools in the valve it must be one of the hoe side couplers.

Dan

One though I do have is why did it work with the previous routing

 

[TheOldHokie]

One though I do have is why did it work with the previous routing

This failure has nothing to do with the routing.

With the hoe disconnected everything else works.

With the hoe connected nothing works including ths hoe.

The circuit through the hoe is the problem and thats either a spool out of position or a coupler thats not fully connected.

Dan

 

[ayak]

Did the BH77 work ok prior to the project start? Also, you mentioned the BH77 couplers are now flat-faced. Any chance during that mod that they were mistakenly switched between their intent as ‘inlet’ and ‘outlet’?
Also, did the comment about the three point lever in the forward(down) position make sense?

 

[TheOldHokie]

Did the BH77 work ok prior to the project start? Also, you mentioned the BH77 couplers are now flat-faced. Any chance during that mod that they were mistakenly switched between their intent as ‘inlet’ and ‘outlet’?
Also, did the comment about the three point lever in the forward(down) position make sense?

Good questions but the 3pt lever is clearly not the problem. If it were the problem would still be present with the backhoe out of the circuit.

Dan

 

[poseidon18]

@TheOldHokie @ayak
Ayak, your question provoked thought, while I don't have the bh77 but rather a bradco 609, I still went ahead and swapped connectors on the hoe and BAM! It all works now. Dan, thanks for hanging in there with me! Routing is right, connectors were swapped on the hoe, that's probably why it worked with my first Routing. Thank you both!