Freakin druggies

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They have been stealing those at a very increased rate here in CA…cause our idiot lawmakers decided that if something is valued at 950 or less…no crime…just a ticket!

worse yet. Those same idiot lawmakers have passed laws requiring ONLY NEW CATS can be installed on cars here because of the clean air rules. Sooo…the stolen cats get sent to the recycle yards for the metals inside that they strip out and sell…don’t even use the cats anyway.

I hate thieves.
 

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Not all thieves are on drugs and not all drug users are thieves.

Another bad generalization is the all drug users are bad people. I would bet most folks here may not know they know one 🤔
Im guessing youre saying there are functioning addicts that go to work and there are addicts that steal and break laws.
Both still a problem for society, one more than the other but both problems.
 

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Im guessing youre saying there are functioning addicts that go to work and there are addicts that steal and break laws.
Both still a problem for society, one more than the other but both problems.
Yes. Not sure what you are getting at, there are those that are not using drugs that don’t go to work, steal and break laws too.
 

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That's the real problem....NOBODY WANTS TO WORK!
Salvage yard only 20 miles here had their whole pile of cats stolen when out for a pick-up of another vehicle...... he worked hard for his cats and deserved the price they woulda brought.....dang
 
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Alot of cat theft in West Virginia over the past year.




 

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They made a choice to try the drugs and got hooked. They made a choice to steal from others to support their habit. Life is full of choices. They choose poorly. I have no sympathy for them. I hope they wise up and ask for help but if they continue to steal from others then I hope God forgives them because if I catch them in the act, they will regret that day. Will they stop? Pobably not but they may think twice about my vehicle next time. I was brought up to respect others and their property. I expect the same from others.
 

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How about have a limit on 1 cat a day or have the VIN and current owner approval with a notarized document if you bring multiple cats in? Take the penalty off the salvage yard. If you are legit, you won’t mind the extra work
 

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How about have a limit on 1 cat a day or have the VIN and current owner approval with a notarized document if you bring multiple cats in? Take the penalty off the salvage yard. If you are legit, you won’t mind the extra work
That's pretty close to what I said.
 
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What is a druggie today?

If the person has a prescription to ridlin is he a druggie? How about some of the opiates (prescription of coarse) are you a druggie if you take those? Prozac? Druggie or no? Medical pot vs. legal pot, vs. evil street pot? Druggie or no? ROFLMAO.

Are they a druggie because they are doing something that is illegal somewhere or because they are altering their body's chemistry?
 
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If they are stealing from you to buy drugs then they are a doper, druggie, stoner, twiker call'em what ever you want, how they got there is not the point. The point is they do not want to change,, the programs are out there, all they need to do is want to change. It is the same kind of person that blames everyone else on their problems,, just MHO
 

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I used to smoke. For over 40 years. Quitting was one of the hardest things I've ever done and took several attempts before I was successful. I wanted to quit, I hated the idea of being addicted, I hated the expense, I hated the residue, I hated going outside in miserable weather, I hated being tied to always making sure I had a pack of smokes around. I once went almost a year before relapsing. I still get occasional cravings and I haven't smoked now for over 10 years.

I don't even want to think how hard it must be to quit most street drugs. The physical effects of quitting smoking are minor in comparison.
 
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Somewhat off-topic, but a couple years ago a farmer-friend's wife thought she saw their son going into the outdoor-wood-boiler shed behind house at 0500.

Nope, he said...sonny-boy is getting ready for milking upstairs....WTF....?!?!?

He goes out and finds an absolutely shyt-faced, incoherent guy headed toward their house. He was 20 feet from back door and cellarway of the house (probably unlocked).

My friend is in his 70's. Kid was maybe 30. While fired-up, my friend kept his cool, questioned the guy's intentions, and had his wife call 911. They don't own nor use much for firepower. Kid started up the road, and PD stopped him there.

Don't know that the guy was charged with anything, other than some time in the drunk-tank.

I commended my friend for keeping his cool, especially with the guy literally at his back door.

Told him I'm really not sure how would have reacted in a similar spot....but I think there's a better-than-even chance that kid wouldn't have been able to make it to the road....

This is in very rural farm country....there's no such thing as it won't happen here...
 

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I used to sleep on the front porch of our house in the summer. It was cooler outside in a hammock than it was inside in the bed (because we had no air-conditioning), and usually, I had a 12 gauge somewhere close by in case the occasional armadillo with poor judgement showed up in the yard. The keys were always in the ignition of the car, pickup, and the jeep. The tractor had a toggle switch to turn the ignition on/off. If the front door was locked, the back door certainly wasn't. We also had as many as 28 loaded weapons in the house of various gauges and calibers. in open gun racks, as did nearly every neighbor. We lived out in the sticks, and we hunted for most of the meat that went on our tables, and also did some varmint hunting for sport (raccoon/Fox/wild hog). If someone showed up, they either knew EXACTLY where they were going because they were invited, or were INCREDIBLY lost. The latter situation was generally accommodated with an escort back to the highway, directions to whoever's house they were hunting, and a friendly suggestion to never come back down that road unless they were with someone that knew our family. If they showed up twice, LOST was a good excuse the first time. CASING the house was assumed the second time.

I look back on those times remembering how much I hated living out there, and yet, thinking how much I'd give to have those simpler more honest times back again.
 
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quitting smoking is tough. My parents quit when I was 7. They did it cold turkey, unconventionally. Every time they wanted to light up, they'd throw a dollar bill in a jar. That jar filled up QUICK. They had to be diligent, and they succeeded. Smoke free since the early 1980's, and dad still has a craving sometimes. Mom not so much. When you smoke around your kids and pets they too smoke. They are addicted to nicotine too. I went through it. It wasn't "as" hard for me as it was for mom & dad but it was still a time of nasty mood swings, headaches, etc. Then I had a bad accident where I was dead at the hospital, but was revived. Not related directly to smoking, but other causes. So I don't remember a whole lot before that.

Having known many folks over the years I can honestly say that some drugs are much harder to quit than others. I had an old GF that got tied up with meth. You can't quit meth. It is THAT addictive. Some have but they are not the same. Meth changes a person physically and mentally and emotionally. That's just one of many drugs. Meth used as a term for a chemical that is not prescribed. There are prescriptions that are also highly addictive but most of the time they are much easier to quit. My best friend was hooked on vikes and I saw what happened with that. He had no choice but to quit it, it was either that or lose every single thing he ever had, worked for, including his marriage, family, everything. And he almost did. I know folks who have, and it don't seem to bother them.

when I said if you smoke so do your kids, I also included any drugs that you might be using. Sure weed don't seem like a big deal to anyone but it is when there is a family involved. Your kids see you using it and they question it. Why? Because it makes you feel good. Well what do you know, a few years later you catch them with a joint. Then not long after they're hanging with a bunch of pot heads who will never get anywhere in life except to the big house over and over again, but it seems like no big deal. Pretty soon that pot high ain't enough to satisify their cravings to they start trying other stuff. I mean, "everyone" says it's no big deal, right? Wrong!! Trust me, I have seen this happen time and time again, probably thousands of times. It might be legal but ask yourself, why is it legal? MONEY! The government keeps getting bigger=they need more money=they legalize pot and tax it so heavily that street pot is cheaper and I hear better. I don't know I don't mess with it you'd have to ask my ex girlfriend about it since she's the guru. Notice I saw EX. If I had known when I met her, I'd not have had much to do with her. Another great example of worthlessness. Spend her $$$ on something that "doesn't do anything"--if that were the case, why's she doing it? Makes no sense.

thieves. I agree that the penalties for thieving are not harsh enough. But, we (Americans) have attorneys that get paid to define law. So when cruel and unusual punishment is brought up, some attorney is guaranteed to define it in such a way that benefits that attorney and maybe whomever he or she is representing. Attorneys are a big part of what is wrong with this country, but they're also a big part of what is right with this country. The justice system in itself can work so long as money and power are left out of it. That will never happen.

So with that being said, when a person kills another person, our way of law says that they may be convicted of capital murder by a trial of their peers. So then begins the process. Capital murder (used as an example only) can be punishable by death in "some states"--and other states believe that it is unethical. Define unethical. Is "unethical" applied to the murder that took place to begin with, or is "unethical" a term applied solely to the punishment? How about prison? We allowed our "leaders" to redefine what prison is for. The systems don't work most of the time. There are exceptions. Criminals are and will be criminals for the rest of their lives unless THEY decide to change themselves (which is increasingly rare). Additionally we have allowed the governments to take funding away from law ENFORCEMENT, meaning there are occasions where enforcement just is inadequate, and we are seeing that now. Defund the police. That's like giving a few a free ride to do whatever they want. Yet we keep trying to go after the tools that criminals use rather than going after the criminals themselves. The tool didn't cut the cats off, the criminal had to turn it on and hold it in place where he wanted it to cut. The scrapyards buying are doing what they do, they buy scrap. It is not their fault that the government mandated extremely expensive parts on vehicles. They have Platinum and Palladium (among other things) in them which is valueable. Is is that hard to figure this stuff out? If it is, we as a society, are doomed to failure.

out here where I live thieving is not a huge issue because we're out in the sticks, we gotta take care of ourselves since it takes the cops almost an hour to get here if they show up at all. Even if they do, the "system" is such that they don't usually deal with small time thieves. If you have camera footage or even better video footage, a lot of times it won't hold up in a courtroom even if you know the thieves. It is a sick system
 
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I had a customer in last week. He said his neighbors wife woke her husband at 4am she heard something. He looked from the bedroom window to see legs sticking out from under his chev pickup in the yard out front. He pulled on his pants and ran downstairs and out the front door. The guy was just running out of sight at the end of his 200' driveway. He was gone with his converter.
On the ford forum there's a fabricator with a plasma table and press break that has started making a bolt in place shield that covers the frame in the converter area for F150 pickups. I'm not sure if the Ford Fx off road and that Toyota off road package truck would already have the covering skid plates to protect from theft.
As far as druggies. I'm not sure they have energy enough to steal. And in Maine here they coddle them. Everything given to them. So no need to steal.
 

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Guys are getting $400 for some convertors.
dont have to do the math, one 10 converter night and you are set for the month! The fact is, the buyers are not police, but there are only a few, buyers in the city, park an officer at each one for a month,and it would end.
 

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The evil street pot? Pound a day habit? Blazing the Maui Wowie? Toking the Kush?
Tobacco. Pack a day of cigarettes, the occasional cigar or pipe. My wife and I both did our smoking outside, even in the days when you could smoke inside airplanes and restaurants and stores, to avoid the residue buildup and smell of stale cigarette smoke as well as avoid exposing the kids to second hand smoke. That wasn't as well appreciated in those days, but we figured if it leaves a coating on the drapes, it can't be good for the kids either.

I tried pot once. Didn't care for the way it interfered with cognitive functions. I'm the same way with alcohol -- I feel handicapped if I can't think clearly, and I just don't have any brain cells to spare!
 
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