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3246 new cases in Az today.
 
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3246 new cases in Az today.

Nice. Florida was over 2000 yesterday. However Michigan is staying pretty well flat. I read that China, where the Wuhan Flu came from is having a solid second wave in the Capital, Beijing. Curtailing all flights and imposing another lockdown.

I'd say Florida blew past Michigan overall like a jet fighter at Mach 1.

It's not going to somehow vanish like a bad dream. It is and has always been out there, just waiting for the chance to infect stupid (and I say stupid as in people who think it's all good now) people lulled into the idea they cannot get it so hell with the masks and social distancing and all that. Party until you puke, or party until you are dead, whatever comes about.

I know where I stand and no one is going to alter that.
 

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I got to go to the auto dealership in the morning. It stinks wearing a mask. But I will. Our CDC state director is adamite the mask saves lives. How the first responders/ nurses doctors ect wear one for 8 hours or more is incredible. A family member works in a bank and she wears a mask and gloves all day.
I know I just could not.
 

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I got to go to the auto dealership in the morning. It stinks wearing a mask. But I will. Our CDC state director is adamite the mask saves lives. How the first responders/ nurses doctors ect wear one for 8 hours or more is incredible. A family member works in a bank and she wears a mask and gloves all day.
I know I just could not.
You have to wear masks up there to go into the dealership? I see people all day long pull up on our service drive in the car alone with masks and gloves on, then take them off and walk inside with nothing, walk past the tape of lines on the floor to get right up in the service writers face to talk to them.
 

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You have to wear masks up there to go into the dealership? I see people all day long pull up on our service drive in the car alone with masks and gloves on, then take them off and walk inside with nothing, walk past the tape of lines on the floor to get right up in the service writers face to talk to them.
To quote flip and lil foot, morons, and to my way of thinking, mean sob's. It's not like they didn't have one, or didn't know, or it was against their religion to wear one.
 

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I got to go to the auto dealership in the morning. It stinks wearing a mask. But I will. Our CDC state director is adamite the mask saves lives. How the first responders/ nurses doctors ect wear one for 8 hours or more is incredible. A family member works in a bank and she wears a mask and gloves all day.
I know I just could not.
Experiment to find a comfortable style. Yes it feels good to take them off, but they are bearable especially when you think of the alternatives. More obvious if you are saving your liver from fumes or your skin from a nasty solvent. My vet seemed to be managing fine in his, talking a blue streak and grinding down horse teeth all at the same time. I like some of mine better than others. Not sure about the ear loops, but there are work arounds for those too.
 

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Experiment to find a comfortable style. Yes it feels good to take them off, but they are bearable especially when you think of the alternatives. More obvious if you are saving your liver from fumes or your skin from a nasty solvent. My vet seemed to be managing fine in his, talking a blue streak and grinding down horse teeth all at the same time. I like some of mine better than others. Not sure about the ear loops, but there are work arounds for those too.
My mom knitted up some "ear savers" for my wife to take into work and pass around to the employees that were having issues. It's a 2" to 3" thick band with a extra large button on each end. Loop the elastic bands around the buttons instead of your ears.

She made them with some crazy patterns and designs to lighten the mood. They were a hit with the employees.
 

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My mom knitted up some "ear savers" for my wife to take into work and pass around to the employees that were having issues. It's a 2" to 3" thick band with a extra large button on each end. Loop the elastic bands around the buttons instead of your ears.

She made them with some crazy patterns and designs to lighten the mood. They were a hit with the employees.
How about some in Kubota orange with the big K logo? Does she have a lot to do? A second career?
 

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How about some in Kubota orange with the big K logo? Does she have a lot to do? A second career?
She actually takes orders. She knits personalized christmas stockings, baby blankets, stuffed animals, ect...... I'll ask her.
 

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My girlfriend bought a 50 pack of the paper blue expending medical type masks at Walgreens-$35. bucks...WTH. I would not of bought them. But I wore one the other day and to me they are hot. The box of course has china writing on the back.
But I'll wear one.
 
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The mask don't bother me, gloves would. I wear gloves when handling herbicides and pesticides and after a couple minutes, my hands are sweating. All day and my hands would be a mess. The mask don't bother me at all. Any more it's like a reflex thing.

Why would you wear a mask in your car all alone and then take it off to go into a business establishment, makes no sense to me, but then people today make no sense anyway...lol

Was just an editorial in the local paper about that. Business here have 'no mask no service signs at the door, but people go in with no mask and no one says a word to them.

If I owned a retail business and had (would have) a no mask no service sign posted and someone came on with no mask on, I'd tell them to get out.
 

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The mask don't bother me, gloves would. I wear gloves when handling herbicides and pesticides and after a couple minutes, my hands are sweating. All day and my hands would be a mess. The mask don't bother me at all. Any more it's like a reflex thing.

Why would you wear a mask in your car all alone and then take it off to go into a business establishment, makes no sense to me, but then people today make no sense anyway...lol

Was just an editorial in the local paper about that. Business here have 'no mask no service signs at the door, but people go in with no mask and no one says a word to them.

If I owned a retail business and had (would have) a no mask no service sign posted and someone came on with no mask on, I'd tell them to get out.
A thin pair of cotton gloves work as well for when your just out and about, and are easier on the digits. I have two allergies that impede wearing some gloves. A latex allergy, as well as being allergic to the talcum powder. So I have to look for nitrile gloves that are powder free.

I will say that they may be labeled powder free on the box. But some brands still have some powder in them. Just not as much. So I'm very picky on the brand I buy.

I can't stand the hands sweating either. I feel bad for the folks that have to wear them day in and out during there shift.
 

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If the idiot protesters get their wish, we won't have to worry about the cold going around. Lawlessness is heading to a place near you.

Crime statistics released by the New York Police Department (NYPD) on Thursday showed a rise in the city's murder rate during the month of May, as protests and riots continued following the death of George Floyd.

The numbers showed that murders in the city had increased by 79 percent, CBS 2 reported. Shootings went up by 64 percent and burglaries reportedly rose by 34 percent.
 
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Think I said before that B&H Photo has all the necessary supplies online and in stock.

Other than the gloves I have no issues and I may try light cotton gloves Darren. Might be a good alternative. I never realized my hands sweat like they do with synthetic gloves on. Heck, they even sweat in cold weather when I'm dressing a deer.
 

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Lawlessness isn't coming here. Everyone around here is armed as I am. Said before... In rural America, the sun rises and sets everyday and nothing changes. Crops grow and get harvested and life is boring, just the way I like it.

All the hubub is completely divorced from us out here. It's exactly the same as it was a month ago or a year ago or 5 years ago.

Why I'd never live in a populated area and don't want to either.
 

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....All the hubub is completely divorced from us out here. It's exactly the same as it was a month ago or a year ago or 5 years ago.

Why I'd never live in a populated area and don't want to either.
The same goes for the cold that is going around.

I am really surprised we don't see a lot more people walking around with helmets on. Don't they fear falling and flying objects? People die from them everyday.

They wear a mask in the car and not a helmet? 100's of people die every day in car accidents. A helmet would help a lot of them for sure. I am not sure how the mask will help during a crash.

I fear the cold going around about as much as I fear being taken out by a flying object.

I prefer living life outside the condom. But then that is why I live where I do.
 

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The same goes for the cold that is going around.

I am really surprised we don't see a lot more people walking around with helmets on. Don't they fear falling and flying objects? People die from them everyday.

They wear a mask in the car and not a helmet? 100's of people die every day in car accidents. A helmet would help a lot of them for sure. I am not sure how the mask will help during a crash.

I fear the cold going around about as much as I fear being taken out by a flying object.

I prefer living life outside the condom. But then that is why I live where I do.
The primary reason for recommending mask wearing at this time is the significant number of people walking around that don't know they have it and can spread it to others. They are either presymptomatic, meaning they may feel sick tomorrow, or like a lot of folks, asymptomatic, meaning their symptoms are so mild they could write them off as allergies or nothing at all. Masks are very effective at preventing this kind of transmission. If you are saying, well what's in it for me, I don't care if I catch it or give it to someone else, keep in mind that a big outbreak is going to be really bad for the economy and the health care system. A lot of people do get very sick, and don't recover 100%. They cannot work as well as they used to. The reduction in deaths and ICU admissions was won at great cost to the residents of Michigan by staying at home. If everyone were courteous and considerate and wore masks and kept up the distancing, we could realistically keep the numbers low. But no, between the demonstrators of various sorts, including the gun rights/militia group this week, and the various groups that have foolishly turned this into a political issue, I am betting we too will have an upward surge in the numbers in a few weeks.:cry::cry:
 
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I went to the Fordstealership this morning. Waited in the waiting room with mask for about an hour. Then went for a walk outside then back in with the mask on. And then Done and gone. Went to Kittery Trading Post to check on a new shotgun. I lasted in there about 30 minutes with the mask. Its a home made sown one made by my girlfriends sister who sews. Three layers maybe. But hot. No shotgun and I headed to my truck mask free. I'm guessing my shopping out is gonna really be restricted until the virus is gone.
 

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To quote flip and lil foot, morons, and to my way of thinking, mean sob's. It's not like they didn't have one, or didn't know, or it was against their religion to wear one.
Just because people dont subscribe to your way of thinking does not make them morons or mean sob's. Its actually pretty childish to think it does. And this continued narrative of Mask=smart, no mask=dumb is not helpful.

Some folks may have health problems with wearing a mask and some may be more enlightened and logical than others as far as to when and where to wear a mask.

Until we get real numbers and real info, everything pretty much is up for debate. Its unfortunate but information is manipulated for agendas.
 

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Just because people dont subscribe to your way of thinking does not make them morons or mean sob's. Its actually pretty childish to think it does. And this continued narrative of Mask=smart, no mask=dumb is not helpful.

Some folks may have health problems with wearing a mask and some may be more enlightened and logical than others as far as to when and where to wear a mask.

Until we get real numbers and real info, everything pretty much is up for debate. Its unfortunate but information is manipulated for agendas.
I grant you my opinion expressed above is pretty one sided. It was just based on the idea someone would drive into the dealership with a mask on while in their car, then take it off and walk up to the service writer and breathe on them. Seemed kind of dumb to me.

I have tried to come to some kind of understanding of the "other" point of view, and here is basically a transcript of a Fauci talk and the takehome that I perceived is that the mask issue is like that of smoking in public places or riding a motorcycle without a helmet, (safety switches?) which also arouse a lot of controversies. If the behavior harms only the individual, then easy to say let them do it. If it directly or indirectly results in harm to the community it is harder to decide.

 
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