BX Fuel Filter Replacement/Relocation - - - Part LV

[RCW]

There's easily been 55 BX fuel filter replacement/relocation threads.

I've read most of them over the last week or so.

Almost time to change mine again.

Except for a diesel shower/cologne application, I haven't had an issue with the rear "bugger".

That said, I'd like to make an improvement this time.

Some have done:

1. Racor relocation. Amazon.com : Racor Element Assy.-4120r 120AT : Boat Fuel Filters : Sports & Outdoors
2. Paul Short's relocation kit. Specialty Repairs Custom Mods
3. botaproducts.com relocation bolt-on kit. Botaproducts - Kubota BX, Tie Rod Boots,fuel Filter,pressure Kit | botaproducts (bxtractorparts.com)
4. Home-brewed/Homemade relocation. What parts did you use?

I'm leaning toward the botaproducts version, as it appears to have both a filter and water separator and replaces both in-line filters? Does it replace both?

I have seen Paul and Kathy (Wildfire's) version, but I think there's issues shipping to/from Canada?

Any other things I've missed or should look for?

If you've done a relocation, any part #'s, hose sizing, shut-offs, or any other details would be great.

Maybe we can consolidate some of those LV (55) threads into one.....

 

[OlFerguson]

I’m curious if they are the same ones in the RTVs..

 

[RCW]

I do believe there's a similar RTV conversion, or a conversion that uses RTV parts.

 

[85Hokie]

I'm leaning toward the botaproducts version, as it appears to have both a filter and water separator and replaces both in-line filters? Does it replace both?

RCW - I think it is completely up to you as to whether you still use the filter NEAR the engine.
I used the RACOR method - during the spring last year I decided to take the "diesel bath."
It was not too bad - I had all my goodies ready to go too.

New 5/16" - 8mm fuel line - ordered a ten foot section - used about 5 feet as I recall.
Bought some 5/16 barbed elbows - got a 5 pack cheaper than I could buy a single one -almost!
Bought some fuel line hose clamps - did not want to use the "normal" clamps
Bought some 1/4 - 5/16 barbed adaptors too.

Any other things I've missed or should look for?

Getting the length correct and the routing correct was my biggest headache,
I left the pump up under - but did unhook it from the OEM place and moved it to another spot that would allow the fuel to come BACK to it a little more inline with the new hoses.

I also placed the 8 mm cutoff 1/4 turn ball valve RIGHT before the fuel entered the filter.
SO the next time I change the filter - cut fuel off, drain filter and then spin off - new on, open air valve and open valve.......

If you've done a relocation, any part #'s, hose sizing, shut-offs, or any other details would be great.

Maybe we can consolidate some of those LV (55) threads into one.....

 

[GreensvilleJay]

I bought the Kubota filter unit that Boca uses from local Kubota dealer, the filter is 1/2 the price of the normal BX one.....
Once Summer comes, I'll do the install as I have to tear the fender off to replace the busted 3PH stuff when removing the tank last month.....

 

[Henro]

I bought the Kubota filter unit that Boca uses from local Kubota dealer, the filter is 1/2 the price of the normal BX one.....
Once Summer comes, I'll do the install as I have to tear the fender off to replace the busted 3PH stuff when removing the tank last month.....

I guess after about 17 years I should consider changing my original fuel filters on my BX2200 for the first time.

Do not think at this rate I need to move away from original. I do get the desire to improve though...

 

[85Hokie]

I guess after about 17 years I should consider changing my original fuel filters on my BX2200 for the first time.

Do not think at this rate I need to move away from original. I do get the desire to improve though...

It took me 7 years ...... and I never had a problem with the OEM filters either!!!!!

Just wanted to be like the "jones" and wanted to be able to see "stuff" if stuff ends up in the filter!!!

Getting too old to climb under just to "SEE"

 

[OlFerguson]

for the exta couple bucks i just stick with the kubota filters because they are designed for the machines. If I cant get them for whatever reason then I'll go with Baldwin. No sense cheaping out on filters, your systems wont appreciate it.

 

[RCW]

I think the botaproducts one uses Kubota mounts/filters?

Hard to tell from their website, but a picture or two clearly show a Kubota spin-on filter.

 

[RCW]

Just an update.

I ordered the Kubota BX Fuel Filter Relocation Kit (bxtractorparts.com) offering and it was delivered today. Gosh, only took a couple days to show at my door.

It has the one filter and mount to replace the rear filter.

It's a neat kit, and the instructions are a bunch of detailed clear, color photos with annotations of a BX23S.

It's essentially a Racor-like program, but uses a Kubota mount and filter.

The kit has all hose pre-cut with fittings and clamps ready to go. Also has loom to run everything in, as well as well zip ties as needed.

The kit came with the Kubota filter box for reference when it's time for a new filter.

Could I have done this without the kit?? Sure I could have.

For me to figure out the routing, fittings, etc., and then out-source all the parts, takes time. I don't have a lot of free time.

I think it's a good option for $200. So far, I'm pretty happy with it...pretty good kit.

I hope to put it on between snow and mowing seasons this spring.....sometimes that's only 2 weeks.. so we'll see.

I will likely add a shut-off in the line before the lift pump, as well as fabricate some kind of "shield" in front of the filter as others have done.

 

[whitetiger]

I will likely add a shut-off in the line before the lift pump,

The Kubota filter assembly you have in the picture has a shut-off built into it.
What do the instructions show to do with the small bleed-off port?

 

[Tractor Gal]

My BX23D has an LA211 loader. There is a steel "insert" that forms an angle at the spot where these relocated fuel filters would fit. I'd like to do the relocation. I have changed both filters with hose clamps in place and it wasn't too bad. But, like many are saying...I'm not getting any younger! Can anyone see a way to mount the new system with this loader in place? Here's a picture of the spot on my tractor where the new system would fit:

 

[Russell King]

@Tractor Gal
Three thoughts come to mind.
1) Get a bracket made that bolts using the two rear bolts and then attach the filter to the new bracket. You would probably need to get a fabrication made from a couple pieces of steel that are .188 to .25 inches thick to be able to withstand the vibrations. You can make templates from cardboard and provide that and pictures of what you’re trying to accomplish to the fabricator. They may weld it or bend it but it would probably need to have a section cut out around the horizontal web in your picture.

2) Just use a piece of bar that is bolted to the horizontal web. Two holes in web, two holes to hold filter assembly.

3) Just use the filter housing and bolt it directly to the web. See picture below for the bolts to use. I can’t judge if it is long enough to work properly though.

 

[Tractor Gal]

@Tractor Gal
Three thoughts come to mind.
1) Get a bracket made that bolts using the two rear bolts and then attach the filter to the new bracket. You would probably need to get a fabrication made from a couple pieces of steel that are .188 to .25 inches thick to be able to withstand the vibrations. You can make templates from cardboard and provide that and pictures of what you’re trying to accomplish to the fabricator. They may weld it or bend it but it would probably need to have a section cut out around the horizontal web in your picture.

2) Just use a piece of bar that is bolted to the horizontal web. Two holes in web, two holes to hold filter assembly.

3) Just use the filter housing and bolt it directly to the web. See picture below for the bolts to use. I can’t judge if it is long enough to work properly though.
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Thanks for the idea, Russell. I think you're suggesting getting a mounting plate/bar made that will attach to the piece I have called an angle of steel. You may be calling it web. I'm not sure that's what you're thinking. But, after mulling this around and trying to find an example of a fuel filter relocation for a BX with this kind of loader...can't find anything. So, I think I'll stick with what is there. With the hose clamps I had gotten at HF, it's not such a big deal. It takes quite some use to need to change these. Meanwhile, I'll have to keep up my exercises to stay limber! Thanks for trying.

TG

 

[85Hokie]

I used that one free bolt and made a bracket to fit the filter - this was the hardest part of the relocation.

A cardboard template helped !!!

.

 

[Russell King]

@Tractor Gal

The post above is pretty much my suggestion #1

This is what I am calling the web

 

[Tractor Gal]

I used that one free bolt and made a bracket to fit the filter - this was the hardest part of the relocation.

A cardboard template helped !!! View attachment 155272 View attachment 155273 View attachment 155274 .

Yes, you did a great job. It looks to me that the "web" on my loader (as Russell has aptly called it) will prevent the body of the filter from sitting correctly,. It would move the filter further to the front and possibly more exposed to damage. I'm not as handy with bending/welding metal which is also a problem. In other words, I don't have the skills so this time, will I learn to let well enough alone? Maybe this time will be a winner and I will. Thanks for the help, though.

TG

 

[Tractor Gal]

@Tractor Gal

The post above is pretty much my suggestion #1

This is what I am calling the web
View attachment 155275

I thought that was what you meant. And, it IS a web. It also provides a problem too big for me. Thanks for your help, though.

TG

 

[Russell King]

@Tractor Gal
One last question or comment.

As I understand the current filter arrangement one is difficult to get to and before the lift pump. The second is easier to get to and between the lift pump and injector pump.

I assume that all means you MUST have the lift pump (and I have no idea where it is in relationship to the tank) to be gravity fed. Then the first filter must be lower than the tank so gravity will feed fuel to the lift pump.

Is there any place where you could mount the first filter that is more easily accessible than the current position? I assume not but have never heard anyone actually say that.

 

[Tractor Gal]

@Tractor Gal
One last question or comment.

As I understand the current filter arrangement one is difficult to get to and before the lift pump. The second is easier to get to and between the lift pump and injector pump.

I assume that all means you MUST have the lift pump (and I have no idea where it is in relationship to the tank) to be gravity fed. Then the first filter must be lower than the tank so gravity will feed fuel to the lift pump.

Is there any place where you could mount the first filter that is more easily accessible than the current position? I assume not but have never heard anyone actually say that.

Good thinkin', Russell. You're really trying to solve this and I appreciate your effort. Right off the bat, the answer is "I don't know." After the bat has swung and missed, I would say that it's likely that I would complicate things more! Even though some of Kubota's engineering is not the best, I think I'll stick with what is there and squiggle my little self under there when it' s time to change the filters. I can always tell myself that I need the exercise.

TG