L3130 HST loss of power when traveling slightest hill eng. bogs down /bin through the fuel system "3'times /tank out cleaned out "All new hoses"/installed inline electric fuel pump/ new injectors /psi test system/ new governor spring/ ( NOW I NOTICED ) After putting it all back together "AND NO" change / after it has run for a while 10 - 15 min it gets better not grate but better ( Got tractor 980 hrs) (no history owner passed) 1018 hrs now complete fluid & filter change 1000hrs (problem started before 1000hr serv. ( no noise/chatter /slippage / highest temp 164 hyd. line (heat gun) Break test will roll away in neutral on slightest grade /ANY THOUGHTS OR INPUT (Also hooked it up to a 24' bat wing brush hog to see if eng. bogs down (NOT TRAVELING) "0" problem
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GreensvilleJay
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I don't know your tractor, but bought a JD rider for $300 (guy paid 4200+ ) similar problem, wouldn't go up an incline. Got the dope from HST mfr...'burned out', well almost. Added their kit to bring it back to THEIR standard and it 'magically' came back to life.
Hmm.. is there any kind of 'valving' that could be directing 'travel' fluid away from the 'drive train' ??
Hmm.. is there any kind of 'valving' that could be directing 'travel' fluid away from the 'drive train' ??
Going to throw this out again because it still sounds like it’s binding itself up, I would suspect a failing HST wouldn’t bog the engine down. You said it does it in 2wd and 4wd, have you made sure it’s actually not stuck in 4wd. Does the tractor have the right size tires on it?
Since you mention going back to a problem, which I think I faintly remember reading about...
How about a link to the original thread, if there was one.
If there wasn't an original thread, why would you say "back"...maybe just a word thing...don't know. But I do remember someone having a similar issue...could it be you?
Edit: could be I read what I remember over at TBN....
How about a link to the original thread, if there was one.
If there wasn't an original thread, why would you say "back"...maybe just a word thing...don't know. But I do remember someone having a similar issue...could it be you?
Edit: could be I read what I remember over at TBN....
L3130 HST drastic loss of power
"NO" Difference bottel feeding ?? now what Then you next job is to Compression test the engine. You've got it down to injection pump, injectors, or internal issue. I'm leaning 50 / 50 between injection pump or injectors, but more info would be better.
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L3130 hst think it is a trans. problum / going to do one more test going to hook it up a grain grinder put a load on the pto / if eng. bogs dowe under this load its a eng. problum / if not its the hyd trans./ just wondering if any has had hst trasn. rebuilt on similar tractor & the cost Thanks
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Loss of power
L3130 HST Have had a ongoing power loss problum when traviling bogs down going up the slightest grade med,& gear/ have bin through the intire fuel system every thing off /tank out & cleaned /filter assembly dismantled & cleaned All hoses blown out/ Just installed new remaned injectors / new...
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GreensvilleJay
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bad HST doesn't have to bog down the engine. That JD rider I had, engine ran great (1 yr old...). Also the PTO seems to be fine !
One way.. engine does drive pump...no problem, BUT the motor is slipping and can't drive the drivetrain and wheels under a minor load( the incline)
You can have a 'weak' clutch in the car, runs down a LEVEL road fine, get to a hill and oopsy, can't make it up !
Would have to see HOW the HST works it's magic and how the flows go in the system.
One way.. engine does drive pump...no problem, BUT the motor is slipping and can't drive the drivetrain and wheels under a minor load( the incline)
You can have a 'weak' clutch in the car, runs down a LEVEL road fine, get to a hill and oopsy, can't make it up !
Would have to see HOW the HST works it's magic and how the flows go in the system.
GreensvilleJay
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BX23-S,57 A-C D-14,58 A-C D-14, 57 A-C D-14,tiller,cults,Millcreek 25G spreader,
maybe I read this wrong ???
Also hooked it up to a 24' bat wing brush hog to see if eng. bogs down (NOT TRAVELING) "0" problem
Sounds like engine does NOT bog down , as I'm guessing a 24" batwing is a good load on the PTO ??
Also hooked it up to a 24' bat wing brush hog to see if eng. bogs down (NOT TRAVELING) "0" problem
Sounds like engine does NOT bog down , as I'm guessing a 24" batwing is a good load on the PTO ??
the engine bogs down while traveling only (this is the issue)…it does not bog down under pto load only
Correct only travling / PTO performs fine on eng boging down /hyd. IE loader no problum
And I hope I’m not trying to come off as an ass, I’m trying to help get this fixed for you. The postings are somewhat difficult to understand (but that’s ok!). It’s never sounded like it’s an engine/fuel system/hst issue to me (I’m not a tractor tech though!) it has sounded like something is causing the tractor to get in a bind.
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GreensvilleJay
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BX23-S,57 A-C D-14,58 A-C D-14, 57 A-C D-14,tiller,cults,Millcreek 25G spreader,
In neutral it will roll away on the smaiiest incline / ingear running it will move on a hill also
GreensvilleJay
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OK, I downloaded the free WSM, as this is testing my grey cells..According to the diagram on page 3-M25 ,power goes engine_>clutch->HST->PTO and tranny->driveshafts->diffs.
so....
since the PTO works fine, than kinda eliminates engine/clutch/HST as the source of the 'bogging'
since it'll roll down an incline, that eliminates the driveshafts and diffs ??
Looking at the WSM, on paper, I can't see HOW it's bogging down ! grrrr very frustrating for me !, have you ANY hair left ???
Sure wish I could help but think I'm 'outta straws.
so....
since the PTO works fine, than kinda eliminates engine/clutch/HST as the source of the 'bogging'
since it'll roll down an incline, that eliminates the driveshafts and diffs ??
Looking at the WSM, on paper, I can't see HOW it's bogging down ! grrrr very frustrating for me !, have you ANY hair left ???
Sure wish I could help but think I'm 'outta straws.
Bin threw the WSM starting to wear the print off the pages kinda at witts endOK, I downloaded the free WSM, as this is testing my grey cells..According to the diagram on page 3-M25 ,power goes engine_>clutch->HST->PTO and tranny->driveshafts->diffs.
so....
since the PTO works fine, than kinda eliminates engine/clutch/HST as the source of the 'bogging'
since it'll roll down an incline, that eliminates the driveshafts and diffs ??
Looking at the WSM, on paper, I can't see HOW it's bogging down ! grrrr very frustrating for me !, have you ANY hair left ???
Sure wish I could help but think I'm 'outta straws.
Doesn't this point the finger at a transmission problem?OK, I downloaded the free WSM, as this is testing my grey cells..According to the diagram on page 3-M25 ,power goes engine_>clutch->HST->PTO and tranny->driveshafts->diffs.
so....
since the PTO works fine, than kinda eliminates engine/clutch/HST as the source of the 'bogging'
since it'll roll down an incline, that eliminates the driveshafts and diffs ??
Looking at the WSM, on paper, I can't see HOW it's bogging down ! grrrr very frustrating for me !, have you ANY hair left ???
Sure wish I could help but think I'm 'outta straws.