thanks i put the blade there to keep the logs from smashing in to the back of the tractor but its funny you say for winching i picked up a receiver from a guy at work today that im going to mount a winch on it an have it so i can put it on the front an back for those hard to reach places its a learning curve were i live in southern ont there's not to many spots i cant get right to to but my property up by sudbury on the other hand it might just come in hand all keep you guys posted cheers