curious, there was a HUGE battery power station next to a natgas power plant that 'went up in smoke', 2-3 ? years ago. Has it been rebuilt ?
Electric Vehicles. Can anyone make this make sense?
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Mine is too, but a lot of folks can't charge at home, or have very high electric rates at home.
Battery power being cost effective is summed up by throwing out your $1,000 phone every few years instead of replacing the battery. The same with electric vehicles, just buy a new one.
Since I am out in the country and have no political power, there is a private company wanting to build a very large storage "battery" near me. That battery is a pump storage unit with a huge lake to collect water when electricity price is low and then run the water back down thru the turbines when prices are high. Much good farm land is wasted, pipe lines and power lines are also an issue. We can thank the EV industry and data centers for this nonsense. The large cities just push this crap out on us, along with their trash, and we count for nothing.
We currently have 100% of our township riverfront property taken by power generation and now are coming inland. Think what could be there paying property tax for our schools, instead the EV crowd is taking us for a ride.
At some time the nearly 100 year old dam will need to be removed and there is no plan on what to do with the billions of tons of sludge collected in front of it. Oh, I forgot, hydro causes no pollution.
Although I do accept and understand your environmental concerns you have to realise that pump storage power plants are the only efficient way to store electricity.
The hunger for electricity gets larger every year and nobody wants to back down on their demands. The teletubbie generation (as I call them) are the worst offenders. The CO2 emissions to run the data centres for watching videos are higher than the CO2 emissions of all cars in the world combined.
If you would switch off youtube, netflix, facebook videos there would be no need for the pump power plant near you simultaneously improving the quality of life of the teletubbie generation, because now they could do something constructive and meaningful with their time.
But I am well aware that this will not happen.
Bread and games. The same way the Roman empire collapsed. History repeating, humans never learn from the past.
Out here, hydro is NOT considered renewable nor clean energy….stupid.
We had the largest solar plant…already too expensive to operate and is currently returning to dust…
We have 40 million people…and no plans on how to deal with how to actually keep the lights on…
Pretty judgmental this AM ...
. Besides, aren't EVs supposed to be very easy to operate and also will drive themselves?
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All is good with wind energy! lol.
At least when millions of tons of used turbine blades get buried there is not a leaching problem.
At this point in time no scalable use or recycle technology to deal with them other than digging a big hole and burying them.
Forward thinking , yeah right.
The article is an older article but current estimates are that roughly 80% of used turbine blades are not recycled in any manor and end up in land fills.
Typical scenario . Rush into technology without considering the long term consequences , bury the waste , as long as not in my back yard, out of sight out of mind, wait till things come to a head and then cry that the sky if falling.
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At least when millions of tons of used turbine blades get buried there is not a leaching problem.
At this point in time no scalable use or recycle technology to deal with them other than digging a big hole and burying them.Forward thinking , yeah right.
The article is an older article but current estimates are that roughly 80% of used turbine blades are not recycled in any manor and end up in land fills.
Typical scenario . Rush into technology without considering the long term consequences , bury the waste , as long as not in my back yard, out of sight out of mind, wait till things come to a head and then cry that the sky if falling.
by-2050-used-wind-turbine-blades-will-exceed-43-million-tons-of-waste-every-year
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Even burial of turbine blades is less toxic than coal ash. Coal ash contains mercury, arsenic, and other toxins that pollute the soil and ground water.All is good with wind energy! lol.
At least when millions of tons of used turbine blades get buried there is not a leaching problem.
Forward thinking , yeah right.
The article is an older article but current estimates are that roughly 80% of used turbine blades are not recycled in any manor and end up in land fills.
Typical scenario . Rush into technology without considering the long term consequences , bury the waste , as long as not in my back yard, out of sight out of mind, wait till things come to a head and then cry that the sky if falling.
by-2050-used-wind-turbine-blades-will-exceed-43-million-tons-of-waste-every-year
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Coal started out in the earth, so I don't believe it is more toxic than turbine blades when you consider the turbine blades had to be produced. But, how do we know what else is in turbine blades and how they break down.
In any case, I'm not sure there are any people who've done studies that we can trust.
I’m not saying you’re wrong, but with the air scrubbers that are on coal power plants now I have to imagine it’s a lot better than 50 years ago. I think we should say screw it and just go for nuclear supplemented with natural gas or the other way around. Currently the “environmentally friendly” solutions all have massive drawbacks and are not actually friendly to the environment or landscape.
The new pebble reactor design that is being tested seems to be the most safe. With the nuclear waste there are hundreds of qualified companies that handle toxic disposal, storage, and monitoring, and they really do not produce that much waste.
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Didn't Sam head that department up for a few years? What could go wrong?
Not much waste? Well, I suppose based on per kWh generated this may be true. But what do you mean by disposal? How long do we have to store nuclear waste until it's safe to go near it again?
Years ago I was in favour of nuclear power. But the long term storage problem has changed my mind, let alone minor incidents on the way. If the companies have to pay up front for the storage you would realise that any other form of electricity generation is actually dirt cheap compared to nuclear.
... and for anybody thinking small modular reactors are the solution I recommend reading about SL-1: Link Wikipedia SL-1
Most impressive, I thought, particularly the time frame of this thing blowing up...
Most impressive, I thought, particularly the time frame of this thing blowing up...
thanks, I just remember seeing couple pictures of it on fire, for days...... and ironic there's an OCEAN full of water close by but water and lithium aren't good playmates .
seems California wants to road tax everyone, including visitors to their fine state. read your odometer coming in and then back out, bill sent in the mail. maybe cause ICE MPG is so high and lots of EVs, so not getting enough taxes at the pumps ?