oil for MX6000

[eichhoma]

I need to add some trans/hydraulic oil to my MX6000....
any reason why I should avoid Tractor Supply premium trans hydraulic?
The Kubota UDT2 is a lot more expensive... any real difference? Thx

 

[Trash Panda]

An MX6000 is pretty expensive compared to an extra 20 bucks on a bit of hydro oil.

 

[eichhoma]

An MX6000 is pretty expensive compared to an extra 20 bucks on a bit of hydro oil.

Yeah, thats fair, just curious if most everyone runs their fluid or if its common place to use other brands... thx!

 

[MapleLeafFarmer]

I wouldn't try to outguess the Kubota engineers. I would stick with Kubota recommendations. Too much at stake IMHO.

Kubota recommends
Premium udt
Sudt2
JD JDM J20D
Case MS 1207 / 1209 / 1210
FNHA 2C 200.00
CNH MAT 3505

 

[TheOldHokie]

I wouldn't try to outguess the Kubota engineers. I would stick with Kubota recommendations. Too much at stake IMHO.

Kubota recommends
Premium udtg
Sudt2
JD JDM J20D
Case MS 1207 / 1209 / 1210
FNHA 2C 200.00
CNH MAT 3505

Interesting list. I have never seen those specifications in any USA publication. In the USA its strictly SUDT2 and UDT.

There are many products that are functionally equivalent to UDT including Traveler Premium UTTO ftom TSC. Personally I think the enhanced properties of SUDT2 is worth the money in a HST ,machine. Not so much in gear drive machines.

Dan

 

[Runs With Scissors]

 

[jyoutz]

Nope, I wouldn’t use anything except SUDT2 in my MX6000. The machine is far too expensive to take a chance on cheap oil.

 

[Vlach7]

I use TS premium, if I ever have a problem, I will let you know. 5 gallons was $60, how much for 5 gallons of SUDT?

 

[MapleLeafFarmer]

Interesting list. I have never seen those specifications in any USA publication. In the USA its strictly SUDT2 and UDT.

There are many products that are functionally equivalent to UDT including Traveler Premium UTTO ftom TSC. Personally I think the enhanced properties of SUDT2 is worth the money in a HST ,machine. Not so much in gear drive machines.

Dan

Thanks....
Kubota prints this list on their 55 gallon drums of premium udt.
We pay about $1500 a drum here. (27$/gallon)
SUDT2 is not sold in our markets just premium udt

 

[Trash Panda]

Yeah, thats fair, just curious if most everyone runs their fluid or if its common place to use other brands... thx!

The tractor is full of UDT or UDT2, and I’m not a big fan of mixing fluids.

It might be fine, but it’s not a risk I’d personally take with a machine that expensive. My L2501 is a hell of a lot cheaper, and I still won’t play that game.

 

[TheOldHokie]

Thanks....
Kubota prints this list on their 55 gallon drums of premium udt.
We pay about $1500 a drum here. (27$/gallon)
SUDT2 is not sold in our markets just premium udt

I wonder if they consider that a two way equivalence. I would but what do I know

The FNHA and CNH specs are obsolete and more akin to UDT than SUDT2

Dan

 

[TheOldHokie]

The tractor is full of UDT or UDT2, and I’m not a big fan of mixing fluids.

It might be fine, but it’s not a risk I’d personally take with a machine that expensive. My L2501 is a hell of a lot cheaper, and I still won’t play that game.

You are tilting at windmills.

Dan

 

[GeoHorn]

I need to add some trans/hydraulic oil to my MX6000....
any reason why I should avoid Tractor Supply premium trans hydraulic?
The Kubota UDT2 is a lot more expensive... any real difference? Thx

I would run my tractor low on fluid before I’d add generic stuff to it.

UDT or better-yet, SUDT2

When I got my 1996 M4700DT to the 600 hr service interval, it called for a complete Hyd fluid change. I found out it left the factory with SUDT (even as far back as ‘96). My local Kubota dealer tried to convince me to install UDT. I told him “No…it came with SUDT…that’s what I’ll replace it with” .
Of course the current version is SUDT2….so that’s what I did. The fluid that was removed looked beautiful…so I stored it in the two empty SUDT2 5-gal pals ….and I’ll use that for “top off” if ever I need to… or use it in some of my other hydraulic equipment.

But this choice is something the ordinary tractor-owner only faces occasionally…. not regularly if he maintains his equipment…. which means using the correct stuff….not some mystery-fluid sold on the cheap.

“Never buy what you do not want because it is cheap: It will be dear to you.” - Thos Jefferson

 

[Trash Panda]

You are tilting at windmills.

Dan

I definitely am not a fan of windmills.

 

[WI_Hedgehog]

If you over-speed a windmill it catches fire, and that sucks.

Well, not water-pumping windmills, then you have a flood.


Windmills suck.

 

[TheOldHokie]

I would run my tractor low on fluid before I’d add generic stuff to it.

UDT or better-yet, SUDT2

When I got my 1996 M4700DT to the 600 hr service interval, it called for a complete Hyd fluid change. I found out it left the factory with SUDT (even as far back as ‘96). My local Kubota dealer tried to convince me to install UDT. I told him “No…it came with SUDT…that’s what I’ll replace it with” .
Of course the current version is SUDT2….so that’s what I did. The fluid that was removed looked beautiful…so I stored it in the two empty SUDT2 5-gal pals ….and I’ll use that for “top off” if ever I need to… or use it in some of my other hydraulic equipment.

But this choice is something the ordinary tractor-owner only faces occasionally…. not regularly if he maintains his equipment…. which means using the correct stuff….not some mystery-fluid sold on the cheap.

“Never buy what you do not want because it is cheap: It will be dear to you.” - Thos Jefferson

The biggest "mystery fluid" on the UTTO market is UDT/SUDT2. Ever see a product data sheet for either one?

Dan

 

[GeoHorn]

The biggest "mystery fluid" on the UTTO market is UDT/SUDT2. Ever see a product data sheet for either one?

Dan

That’s an opposing observation….but incorrect…. as there certainly is a data sheet for it.

If You actually Read the sheet… and it’s contstituents that make up the fluid…. would You or the ordinary user know anything more...? Do we know what is meant by “AlKYL IMADAZOLENE” ….??

Or “PHOSPHORODITHIOIC ACID” ..?

Or How they influence the “Hydro-treated” Base Petroleum Fluids ..?

Or What we can do about it …even IF we knew them?

I know that whatever it is…..it is what my Kubota will work with without fear of damage.

HERE is the MANUFACTURER’S specification sheet which personal opinion may have obstructed a search for it:




.

 

[TheOldHokie]

That’s an opposing observation….but incorrect…. as there certainly is a data sheet for it: https://www.msdsdigital.com/kubota®-super-udt2-trans-hydraulic-fluid-msds

I know that whatever it is…..it is what my Kubota will work with without fear of damage.

Try again. That is a MSDS (required by law) not a PDS.

Dan

 

[Trash Panda]

The biggest "mystery fluid" on the UTTO market is UDT/SUDT2. Ever see a product data sheet for either one?

Dan

All the more reason to run it.

Without a data sheet to compare to, it makes it hard to say how comparable it is to another fluid.

 

[TheOldHokie]

All the more reason to run it.

Without a data sheet to compare to, it makes it hard to say how comparable it is to another fluid.

That my friend is exactly Kubota's marketing strategy.

UDT (Universal Dynamic Tractor) oil is as generic as it gets.

SUDT is a low viscosity formulation with enhanced water tolerance. At the time of its introduction (1999) Kubota had lots of information on the new formulation. That wuickly went POOF.

If I gave you that data would it change your mind?

Dan