Anyone own a New Holland LX865 turbo?

[John T]

I see one on marketplace ... may go take a look.

Do these machines have emissions systems?

I believe they were made 94-99

 

[Fedup]

I don't own one, but have worked on a few. The earlier machines had Ford engines, some had Perkins. Later ones had Shibaura engines. All are reliable power plants. No emissions on any of them to my knowledge.

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

I see one on marketplace ... may go take a look.

Do these machines have emissions systems?

I believe they were made 94-99

Just like @Fedup said, multiple engine choices and no emissions.

 

[John T]

I don't own one, but have worked on a few. The earlier machines had Ford engines, some had Perkins. Later ones had Shibaura engines. All are reliable power plants. No emissions on any of them to my knowledge.

Thanks going to look at one this morn.
small farmer down the street .. talked to him last night
says it ran good... I saw video.

But it needs a starter (again) he replaced it and it died after a while also... said it actually got hot to the touch... kinda puzzling...

he did say he put an aftermarket key switch in it from napa... not sure if that is related...
He got frustrated and bought a new machine.

For the price I think i'm gonna take on the project...
This machine is what I was looking for ... good power . great lift capac. Hi flow pump and aux lines.
fingers crossed.

everything I see for sale is $10K + for 20 year old machines!
any thoughts on the starter ?

 

[Fedup]

Thoughts on the starter? Not many. Would help to know which engine it has, but to begin with, starters can get hot when operated with low voltage (for whatever reason). Weak batteries, poor cables and/or connections. That sort of thing. Could also be from the motor being simply too hard to turn over. That brings other issues into play. It's hard to diagnose problems with little information and/or history of a machine. The source and quality of the starters involved can also be in question at this point.

 

[John T]

starters can get hot when operated with low voltage (for whatever reason). Weak batteries, poor cables and/or connections. That sort of thing. Could also be from the motor being simply too hard to turn over. That brings other issues into play.

I was thinking the same.
I reckon I'll find out because I gave him a deposit... his buddy and him are gonna deliver it this weekend.... looks like I got a project.
At first glance it's rough.... But good bones (hopefully) he has the front door also which is a big +

I believe the engine is a BSD332 (turbo) 192ci

 

[John T]

another question... Is there any way to get this thing to roll?

At this point I'm pretty clueless on the drive system.... He said it was hydraulic motors for each wheel...
I'd like to be able to roll it into the garage without dragging it...

 

[hedgerow]

I see one on marketplace ... may go take a look.

Do these machines have emissions systems?

I believe they were made 94-99

I had one back in the day when they were new. The one I had had the ford diesel in it. I didn't really have any issues with it. I don't think any of them had high flow Hyd . The next one I had was a LS190 I it didn't have high flow either. In my area most used skid loaders have have not had a easy life. I would look it over real close and if its got a lot of hours on it I would pass. Its 25 to close to 30 years old and New Holland is not great about parts on older equipment. I went from New Holland to Bob cat to get the high flow I need to run a tree saw.

 

[John T]

I had one back in the day when they were new. The one I had had the ford diesel in it. I didn't really have any issues with it. I don't think any of them had high flow Hyd . The next one I had was a LS190 I it didn't have high flow either. In my area most used skid loaders have have not had a easy life. I would look it over real close and if its got a lot of hours on it I would pass. Its 25 to close to 30 years old and New Holland is not great about parts on older equipment. I went from New Holland to Bob cat to get the high flow I need to run a tree saw.

This one has high flow with aux front lines.

Heres my fix R upper....

 

[Fedup]

A dead skidloader is worse than a boat anchor. Getting it roll is one thing, but getting the boom up and locked is just as, if not more, important. If it were my project I would probably want it outdoors (with the boom up) until it's running. Everyone has different ideas on that I guess. To get the boom up you will need another loader or a fork lift. Loosen the lines to the lift cylinder(s), and raise the boom with another loader. It will spill fluid all over, but you have few choices. Whenever possible I try to remove the necessary lines and install short hoses I can direct into buckets or jugs to catch as much oil as possible while doing this. It still makes a mess. The boom lock is inside the cab behind the seat. Get that working before starting on the project. It will most likely need a little "freeing up" so I like to do that beforehand.

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

I don't think this model has a hydro override so it's a beast to move.
Heavy car dollies work if your on concrete or asphalt, if dirt, your in the drag or push game.
On my Bobcat you can hold the drive controls and it will roll very slowly, you can also lift the loader if you engage the controls and manually lift it without removing any lines.

This is a great place to get info on it.

Skidsteer Forum - Bobcat, New Holland, Case, John Deere

This forum is exclusive to the following with forums for skid steers, compact track loaders, excavators, attachments & other heavy equipment.

www.skidsteerforum.com

And get the service manual, it's full of all sorts of info.
Ask on that forum, someone might have a copy to give.

 

[hedgerow]

This one has high flow with aux front lines.

Heres my fix R upper....

All the New Holland skid steers I had did have the front aux lines but none had much above 20 GPM which was fine for running post hole diggers but not enough when I went to a high flow tree saw. Back when I had cattle I have spend thousands of hours in New Holland skid steers and for the most part liked them. The last one I had the 190 had AC , heat, two speed and hyd disconnect on the bucket. That one had about 2500 hours on it and sold for what I had paid for it new when I had my auction to sell all my hay and cattle equipment. We only do row crop today and any hay I hire out or rent the ground.

 

[John T]

getting the boom up and locked is just as, if not more, important. If it were my project I would probably want it outdoors (with the boom up) until it's running.

What is the advantage to having the boom UP?
is there anything not accessible with the boom Down?

looks like the engine bay is accessible... albeit a bit tight.

 

[John T]

All the New Holland skid steers I had did have the front aux lines but none had much above 20 GPM which was fine for running post hole diggers but not enough when I went to a high flow tree saw.

This is what I am seeing on the LX865 specs....

 

[John T]

This is a great place to get info on it.

Skidsteer Forum - Bobcat, New Holland, Case, John Deere

This forum is exclusive to the following with forums for skid steers, compact track loaders, excavators, attachments & other heavy equipment.

www.skidsteerforum.com

Thanks

 

[Fedup]

Advantage to having the boom up? Hey, it's your machine and your project. If your arms are long enough and strong enough to handle that starter while reaching between the boom frame work you're a better man than I am. If it has the three cylinder Ford engine (still unknown at this point) and all three mounting bolts are in place, you'll see what I mean.

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

Curious how you determined it's a high flow unit?
They were extremely rare in those builds.
Congrats if you did get one with it, or maybe a curse if you need that pump, as they are very pricey.

Yea on those getting the loader out of the way is crucial to not going crazy trying to work on them, as is being able to tilt the cab.

I love my bobcat because the loader is not in the way, but I have a smaller older unit.

One thing to note: I'm pretty sure that your unit is like minee and it takes motor oil as hydraulic oil.
This is critical as the oil also lubes the drive motors and hydraulic oil lacks the additives to lube the motors, so check on that.

 

[John T]

Curious how you determined it's a high flow unit?
They were extremely rare in those builds.

Here are the specs. It's also printed on back of the machine.

There are 2 sets of lines (connectors) up front. regular aux and Hi Flow aux

New Holland Lx865 Specs, Weight, Lift Heiight, Turbo, Lift Capacity

New Holland Lx865 specs, weight, engine, lift capacity, horsepower, years made, and oil capacity are on our page. Click for New Holland lx865 turbo specs

www.skidsteers.net

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

Here are the specs. It's also printed on back of the machine.

There are 2 sets of lines (connectors) up front. regular aux and Hi Flow aux

New Holland Lx865 Specs, Weight, Lift Heiight, Turbo, Lift Capacity

New Holland Lx865 specs, weight, engine, lift capacity, horsepower, years made, and oil capacity are on our page. Click for New Holland lx865 turbo specs

www.skidsteers.net

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Bingo that's what I wanted to know, excellent score!

 

[John T]

Advantage to having the boom up? Hey, it's your machine and your project. If your arms are long enough and strong enough to handle that starter while reaching between the boom frame work you're a better man than I am. If it has the three cylinder Ford engine (still unknown at this point) and all three mounting bolts are in place, you'll see what I mean.

Gotcha.
I will look into that.
I wonder if I can use an aux 12v or 110v hydraulic pump to raise the arms....
remove a tank line? and plumb the line into a bucket....

I could use my BX loader to try to lift the boom... but sadly whenever I call on the BX loader to lift anything close to heavy, It lets me down.

tis the main reason why I wanted a skidsteer....