General Lee's been hit!!!!!!! *******Updated with new Poll**********

I think that when RWS pulls that tube.........(I ,RWS, vow NOT to weld/braze it & I am not voting)

  • The tube will be cracked somewhere and he has to replace it.

    Votes: 1 4.8%
  • The tube will be bent, but he will bend it back, try to use use it. And it will NOT leak.

    Votes: 9 42.9%
  • The tube will be bent, but he will bend it back, try to use use it. BUT it WILL leak.

    Votes: 11 52.4%

  • Total voters
    21
  • Poll closed .

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Well I got some phone calls last night from my SIL and sister, so my weekend (and my hoist) just filled up rather quickly.

Looks like option 7 is the correct answer

Option 7: "RWS will be running around like a chicken with his head cut off this weekend working on peoples cars, so he is going to just order the damn tube and be done with it."
Looks a bit like a variant of Option 6 with no admission you’ve already conceptualized a skid plate. :LOL:
 
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How about option 8 where the pipe is removed completely and it's set up to squirt the oil across the gap in a laminar flow jet.

 
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Ok fellas, I got the replacement tube and o-rings in hand.

The tube ends where the o-rings go are not what I expected to see.

I would have expected that the o-rings each sit in their respective groove, but there are no grooves for the o-rings to sit in.

I suspect it goes together as in pic 2, but I am just making sure that I do not have a defective part (it happens I suppose).

Furthermore, I expect that when I remove the original that I need to make sure that I recover 4 o-rings total????

Is that correct?

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2 Is better than one? lol

I've never seen 2 O rings together like that ( in separate grooves, yes, "loose", no), but I guess there's always a first time.

The only time I regret buying something new vs trying to "fix" the old one is while I'm spending the money.
 

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2 Is better than one? lol

I've never seen 2 O rings together like that ( in separate grooves, yes, "loose", no), but I guess there's always a first time.

The only time I regret buying something new vs trying to "fix" the old one is while I'm spending the money.
Yep, that's exactly why I asked. I have never seen a set up like it either.

I fully expected to see the standard, double groove with 2 o-ring, set up.
 

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Ok fellas, I got the replacement tube and o-rings in hand.

The tube ends where the o-rings go are not what I expected to see.

I would have expected that the o-rings each sit in their respective groove, but there are no grooves for the o-rings to sit in.

I suspect it goes together as in pic 2, but I am just making sure that I do not have a defective part (it happens I suppose).

Furthermore, I expect that when I remove the original that I need to make sure that I recover 4 o-rings total.

Is that correct?

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I question if two "O" rings are actually correct for that installation.
 
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I'm thinking no.

I've seen o-rings backed up by a thin plastic washer.
 
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Ok fellas, I got the replacement tube and o-rings in hand.

The tube ends where the o-rings go are not what I expected to see.

I would have expected that the o-rings each sit in their respective groove, but there are no grooves for the o-rings to sit in.

I suspect it goes together as in pic 2, but I am just making sure that I do not have a defective part (it happens I suppose).

Furthermore, I expect that when I remove the original that I need to make sure that I recover 4 o-rings total????

Is that correct?

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Are there grooves in the housings? If so, put the o-rings in first, then oil and slide the tube in. I would remove the paint off the tube ends.
 
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If I had to guess, this is probably how the hole features are. Larger counter bore is for the o-rings to sit in, smaller counter bore is for the pipe itself and through hole for the fluid. The depth of the larger counter bore is just a bit less than the combined thickness of the two o-rings so that the o-rings expand slightly when compressed by the flange.


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Are there grooves in the housings? If so, put the o-rings in first, then oil and slide the tube in. I would remove the paint off the tube ends.
I have not removed it yet, so I don't know if there are grooves in the bore or not.

That would seem like a very expensive way to do things, but I guess it's possible.


One thing that I am trying to avoid is removing it, and then having fluid come pouring out while I am sitting there with my "thumb in my ass" trying to figure it out as I go.

My current plan is to "cold swap" them; So in my minds eye, I would like to have the tube set up with the proper o-ring configuration and lubed, so I can undo the 2 retaining bolts and swap them right quick to minimize fluid loss.

But if there are 2 o-rings on each side, I need to be make sure I recover them all, before I jam the tube in, hence stuffing "3 o-rings" into a "2 o-ring hole".

It's probably taking me longer to type this than it will to actually do it...... 😂
 
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If I had to guess, this is probably how the hole features are. Larger counter bore is for the o-rings to sit in, smaller counter bore is for the pipe itself and through hole for the fluid. The depth of the larger counter bore is just a bit less than the combined thickness of the two o-rings so that the o-rings expand slightly when compressed by the flange.


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Yes sir, I agree, that would make sense.

I have just never seen a set up like that before.

I have, of course, seen a single "compression" o-ring set up like you described, hundreds, or possibly thousands of times, and if the parts catalog would have only showed 1 o-ring per side, I would not have questioned it at all.

The "Double Whopper" set up has my "Spidey Senses" tingling though..........
 

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I have not removed it yet, so I don't know if there are grooves in the bore or not.

That would seem like a very expensive way to do things, but I guess it's possible.


One thing that I am trying to avoid is removing it, and then having fluid come pouring out while I am sitting there with my "thumb in my ass" trying to figure it out as I go.

My current plan is to "cold swap" them; So in my minds eye, I would like to have the tube set up with the proper o-ring configuration and lubed, so I can undo the 2 retaining bolts and swap them right quick to minimize fluid loss.

But if there are 2 o-rings on each side, I need to be make sure I recover them all, before I jam the tube in, hence stuffing "3 o-rings" into a "2 o-ring hole".

It's probably taking me longer to type this than it will to actually do it...... 😂
If you don't want to drain it, I'd use the shop vac trick and try not to trip on the cord.
My L35 had a groove rolled in that tube, and one o-ring.
 

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Ok fellas, I got the replacement tube and o-rings in hand.

The tube ends where the o-rings go are not what I expected to see.

I would have expected that the o-rings each sit in their respective groove, but there are no grooves for the o-rings to sit in.

I suspect it goes together as in pic 2, but I am just making sure that I do not have a defective part (it happens I suppose).

Furthermore, I expect that when I remove the original that I need to make sure that I recover 4 o-rings total????

Is that correct?

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Yes it takes 2 o-rings on each end.
No there is not supposed to be an indent in the tube.
DRAIN it, and then just re use the fluid.
 
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Draining it sound like the way to go for me also over cold snapping it.
 

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Draining it sound like the way to go for me also over cold snapping it.
You guys have no adventure in you. I'd totally try to do it without draining it. It'd be the wrong thing to do, it'd make a mess, and I'd wish I'd drained it. But I'd do it anyway.
 
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I’d be more concerned with a piece of something going down it when snapping it off over a mess. With my luck I’d drain it and still make the mess.
 

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You guys have no adventure in you. I'd totally try to do it without draining it. It'd be the wrong thing to do, it'd make a mess, and I'd wish I'd drained it. But I'd do it anyway.

Hey, I agree. I'd stick a funnel in the hyd fill hole and put the hose to a shop vac in the funnel and tape it so it all stays there. Pull the part and replace it!
 
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