Property tax

[skeets]

I do have a question about county property tax. And that is simply what do we get for aside from richer county employees. Really, out here in the boondocks what do you/we get? There is no fire dept, EMS, or police, the roads suck at best and why does the money stay with inthe city limits? We are required to depend on local towns for anything we need fire, EMS, or the PaSP and they could take an hour or more, to get here, been there and done that before.
Now dont get me wrong I dont mind paying my fair share, I just want to know what Im getting for my money.

 

[wp6529]

Nothing at all, basically you are funding the city cancer that will continue to metastaticise and encroach on you while destroying the character and quality of everything along the way.

 

[Jchonline]

I do have a question about county property tax. And that is simply what do we get for aside from richer county employees. Really, out here in the boondocks what do you/we get? There is no fire dept, EMS, or police, the roads suck at best and why does the money stay with inthe city limits? We are required to depend on local towns for anything we need fire, EMS, or the PaSP and they could take an hour or more, to get here, been there and done that before.
Now dont get me wrong I dont mind paying my fair share, I just want to know what Im getting for my money.

Arent those towns getting a portion of collected county taxes to provide those services to you?

 

[fried1765]

Nothing at all, basically you are funding the city cancer that will continue to metastaticise and encroach on you while destroying the character and quality of everything along the way.

The MOST productive thing that any government, federal, state or local does, is to feed itself!

 

[johnjk]

Where I live, my taxes go to the township and school district. Township taxes fund the Fire/rescue district, sheriff and roads. Even though the school district is in a larger city about 20 miles away, we do not fund any other city services. If fire has a fund raiser, we go and contribute.

 

[skeets]

Arent those towns getting a portion of collected county taxes to provide those services to you?

Again if they are, it is going in to someones pocket, just MHO you understand.

 

[Daferris]

Your tax bill will list what each part is for and how much.
Second is you get input in how the taxes are spent by paying attention to what's going on...
For example when was the last time you went to a board meeting?
Do you research/talk to the folks running for the local offices?
An most important 1) do you vote in EVERY election 2) Do you vote for folks that are making sense and have the interest of the entire community (be it the township, City or state depending on the office). Or because they are telling you what you want to hear.
If they don't make sense or are changing their pitch/story depending on who they are talking to don't vote for them.

Bottom line we get the government we deserve.... If you don't put in any effort or care. Then you probably will end up with folks that don't care about their voters either...

 

[wp6529]

Your tax bill will list what each part is for and how much.
Second is you get input in how the taxes are spent by paying attention to what's going on...
For example when was the last time you went to a board meeting?
Do you research/talk to the folks running for the local offices?
An most important 1) do you vote in EVERY election 2) Do you vote for folks that are making sense and have the interest of the entire community (be it the township, City or state depending on the office). Or because they are telling you what you want to hear.
If they don't make sense or are changing their pitch/story depending on who they are talking to don't vote for them.

Bottom line we get the government we deserve.... If you don't put in any effort or care. Then you probably will end up with folks that don't care about their voters either...

Unfortunately not voting for the crooked politicos only works if there is a non-crooked one to vote for. When every choice is as bad as every other you end up where we are today both locally and nationally. The problem is the honest folks who care are also smart enough to know it's a shit job and that shit will get all over them no mater what they do and thus they do not run for office.

 

[lynnmor]

Your tax bill will list what each part is for and how much.
Second is you get input in how the taxes are spent by paying attention to what's going on...
For example when was the last time you went to a board meeting?
Do you research/talk to the folks running for the local offices?
An most important 1) do you vote in EVERY election 2) Do you vote for folks that are making sense and have the interest of the entire community (be it the township, City or state depending on the office). Or because they are telling you what you want to hear.
If they don't make sense or are changing their pitch/story depending on who they are talking to don't vote for them.

Bottom line we get the government we deserve.... If you don't put in any effort or care. Then you probably will end up with folks that don't care about their voters either...

My rose colored glasses fogged up years ago, it will take a lot of time but yours will as well.

 

[Daferris]

I rest my case if your willing to give up and throw up your hands in defeat... Move to someplace that makes all your decisions for you... China, Cuba Russia are options.

If your not willing to accept bull crap and the extreme jerks on both the Right and the Left. And work to get moderates that have the interest of ALL of their voters in mind. Them you need to put in some effort. Maybe that means helping a campaign of someone that you find inspiring or maybe it means just showing up to meetings to see what's happening or even running an office....

Don't forget the first few words of our constitution are WE THE PEOPLE of the United State, In Order to form a more perfect Union...

IF NOT WE THE PEOPLE the just who in the heck do you think is going to make the USA a more perfect union...

It might not be what you want to hear but if all you want to do is bitch and moan about our government but not do anything about it them you got what you deserve.... Myself I want a return to congress in Washington that gets things done rather than the current crop of folks that are just there to line their pockets and grab attention.

One way is about 90% of the seats in the house are "safe" seats meaning the one that wins the primary is a shoo in for the general. The best defense is to eliminate gerrymandering but that is a slow process. A faster way is to vote for a sane rational person that is running. Currently pretty much on only ones that vote in primary elections all the time are the die hard party faithful be it Republican or Democrat.
Again you get what your deserve if you can't be bothered to vote then don't bitch about your choices as you did not put in any effort . Vote absentee if need be but vote. I don't care who you vote for as that's your choice. But you need to vote and you need to look up or talk to the folks your voting for to ensure that they are going to be an honest broker for your interests in the part of government they serve.

Again.... It's WE THE PEOPLE if we the people don't do anything then we will all have the the a hand in contributing to the status quo

 

[ken erickson]

My property taxes ( I live outside city limits in a large county) which do not offer any local services except that which goes to the local schools. I seldom see a county deputy just patrolling , I have a private well, septic system, no sidewalks, spotty at best road maintenance, my responsibility for trash pickup.. Would I change and move to the city, NO Way!

I suspect my only real benefit is the kids getting educated just enough to pass a drivers license written road test which then leads to my mailbox being destroyed once or twice a year, usually around high school graduation time.

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

County taxes go to the counties not the cities.
Yes they sometimes do fund EMS, Police (Sheriff department and such,), And Hospitals within those cities in that county.
County taxes, cover all sorts of things:
Roads
Bridges
Infrastructure builds and maintenance
Road maintenance, snow / ice removal, sanding.
Road side maintenance, ditches, drainage, culverts, mowing, tree maintenance and removal.
Refuge handling (can be as simple as a dump station).
Signs, barriers, traffic and roadway lights.
Costs of having county buildings, vehicles, equipment.
And yes they pay for county employees salaries and their benefits.
and there is thousands more to this list.

While your exact location might not have some things, other parts of that same county do and yes sadly your paying for it.

 

[wp6529]

I rest my case if your willing to give up and throw up your hands in defeat... Move to someplace that makes all your decisions for you... China, Cuba Russia are options.

If your not willing to accept bull crap and the extreme jerks on both the Right and the Left. And work to get moderates that have the interest of ALL of their voters in mind. Them you need to put in some effort. Maybe that means helping a campaign of someone that you find inspiring or maybe it means just showing up to meetings to see what's happening or even running an office....

Don't forget the first few words of our constitution are WE THE PEOPLE of the United State, In Order to form a more perfect Union...

IF NOT WE THE PEOPLE the just who in the heck do you think is going to make the USA a more perfect union...

It might not be what you want to hear but if all you want to do is bitch and moan about our government but not do anything about it them you got what you deserve.... Myself I want a return to congress in Washington that gets things done rather than the current crop of folks that are just there to line their pockets and grab attention.

One way is about 90% of the seats in the house are "safe" seats meaning the one that wins the primary is a shoo in for the general. The best defense is to eliminate gerrymandering but that is a slow process. A faster way is to vote for a sane rational person that is running. Currently pretty much on only ones that vote in primary elections all the time are the die hard party faithful be it Republican or Democrat.
Again you get what your deserve if you can't be bothered to vote then don't bitch about your choices as you did not put in any effort . Vote absentee if need be but vote. I don't care who you vote for as that's your choice. But you need to vote and you need to look up or talk to the folks your voting for to ensure that they are going to be an honest broker for your interests in the part of government they serve.

Again.... It's WE THE PEOPLE if we the people don't do anything then we will all have the the a hand in contributing to the status quo

The corruption of the elections is worse than just voting district maps, there is also active efforts to corrupt the primaries by significant numbers of voters of a particular leaning registering as the other party for the sole purpose of voting in their primaries to try to get the least electable person selected as the candidate.

So much needs to be done to shore up and clean up the election process it is no wonder that so many do not have any faith in the process these days.

 

[wp6529]

While your exact location might not have some things, other parts of that same county do and yes sadly your paying for it.

I'm pretty anti city and anti government in general, however I am not generally anti tax. I look at what I pay in taxes each year and see what portion of the cost of something I do support or benefit from that represents.

I've yet to be able to find where *my* tax dollars have been wasted. That $30k in fed tax went to pay a tiny part of the operating costs of the weather radar that shows me the tornado aiming for me. The $6k in property tax was more than consumed in all the fresh rock and grading they just did on the short county road I'm off of.

It's easy to say "what do I get for my tax dollars", but when you dig a little you quickly see that you did indeed get something for your taxes and your taxes only covered a tiny bit of the cost.

 

[aaluck]

It doesn't matter what word you put in front of tax. Property, income, sales, wealth....

It all goes into the same pile to burn.

 

[jyoutz]

I do have a question about county property tax. And that is simply what do we get for aside from richer county employees. Really, out here in the boondocks what do you/we get? There is no fire dept, EMS, or police, the roads suck at best and why does the money stay with inthe city limits? We are required to depend on local towns for anything we need fire, EMS, or the PaSP and they could take an hour or more, to get here, been there and done that before.
Now dont get me wrong I dont mind paying my fair share, I just want to know what Im getting for my money.

You have an elected county commissioner (supervisor, or whatever they call them in your area) that represents your district. They are who you should be complaining to. But I hear what you’re saying. The same thing where I live. A few years ago the people in my district had enough about the roads situation and forced the commissioner to have a local meeting. We did get some more local road work prioritized as a result.

 

[GeoHorn]

I do have a question about county property tax. And that is simply what do we get for aside from richer county employees. Really, out here in the boondocks what do you/we get? There is no fire dept, EMS, or police, the roads suck at best and why does the money stay with inthe city limits? We are required to depend on local towns for anything we need fire, EMS, or the PaSP and they could take an hour or more, to get here, been there and done that before.
Now dont get me wrong I dont mind paying my fair share, I just want to know what Im getting for my money.

Public school funding? (And don’t ask why if you don’t have kids so why you have to fund public education. Free Public Education is the only REAL reason America passed up the Old World.)

IF you truly are disturbed by the situation you should attend county court and ask your commissioners, county judge, and tax assessor. They should have the answer you seek.

 

[Flintknapper]

Again.... It's WE THE SHEEPLE if we the people don't do anything then we will all have the the a hand in contributing to the status quo

^^^^^^

Fixed it for you.......

Other than that little problem.....I agree with you entirely.

 

[Daren Todd]

So.... on the subject of property taxes, I stopped by the tax assessors office to see what the property taxes would be for the land we just purchased.

I had to ask her to repeat the amount just to make sure i heard her correctly.

Our projected property taxes on the land are $6.00 and some change

It came to just over a buck an acre.

I did ask if she was sure she didn't miss a decimel point.

That's when she printed off the assessment and gave me a copy

 

[D2Cat]

So.... on the subject of property taxes, I stopped by the tax assessors office to see what the property taxes would be for the land we just purchased.

I had to ask her to repeat the amount just to make sure i heard her correctly.

Our projected property taxes on the land are $6.00 and some change

It came to just over a buck an acre.

I did ask if she was sure she didn't miss a decimel point.

That's when she printed off the assessment and gave me a copy

Don't celebrate too much, that will all change quickly. When the accessor shows up and gets his measure wheel out.... new information, new numbers!