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I don't think anyone believes 100% of what they read in the news. I know I never did.
That said, is there anyone here that thinks Hamas didn't attack Israel and kill 1000 people?

I remember the USS Liberty. As stated above the fog of war sucks, at best. For conspiracy believers, nothing will convince them is was anything but a terrible mistake.
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This is a lot like seeing a headline "Wife Murders Husband in His Sleep With an Axe". Story below headline claims it was unprovoked and out of the blue.

Later, neighbors tell how hubby was always coming home drunk and beating the snot out of his wife.

Thing is that with all these wars, billions transfer from taxpayers defense contractors.
 
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I don't think anyone believes 100% of what they read in the news. I know I never did.
That said, is there anyone here that thinks Hamas didn't attack Israel and kill 1000 people?

I remember the USS Liberty. As stated above the fog of war sucks, at best. For conspiracy believers, nothing will convince them is was anything but a terrible mistake.
The whole story
I believe Wiki about as much as the media since it is user driven.
The truth about the attack may never be known. Even the NSA docs released by Edward Snowden are inconclusive.
 

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I believe God said " I will always protect my people ",
If Jesus took us to heaven today there certainly wouldn't be any surprise here.
Which god ? Assuming 'your' god the only correct god or prophet is an issue that has led to many wars in that area.
IMHO: there will be way too much blood on the ground and this issue will still be with us for generations.
 
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Which god ? Assuming 'your' god the only correct god or prophet is an issue that has led to many wars in that area.
As long as religion guides people's lives, zealots in those religions will believe it is their god given mission to kill or otherwise subjugate or denigrate those who worship other gods. It's been that way since we invented religion, and will continue until we move past religion and it's inherent evils.
 
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This is a lot like seeing a headline "Wife Murders Husband in His Sleep With an Axe". Story below headline claims it was unprovoked and out of the blue.

Later, neighbors tell how hubby was always coming home drunk and beating the snot out of his wife.

Thing is that with all these wars, billions transfer from taxpayers defense contractors.
That's what war is, the political transfer of money.
 
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I don't think anyone believes 100% of what they read in the news.
Obviously, a lot of people believe 100% of that they hear/watch/read in the news. Otherwise, people would come to different conclusions than they have.
 
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I fear this is going to mushroom into something unstoppable. But, these terrorists have to be exterminated like the cockroaches they are.
 

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We might all be surprised by all the sleeper cells hunkered down in the US.
I would actually be more surprised if there were not a bunch. Easy enough to get in.
 
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I would actually be more surprised if there were not a bunch. Easy enough to get in.
Now I am really confused. Sleeper cells on what side?
Israel has openly bought many of the US government decades ago.
The battle over the middle east has been on going on for centuries.
Does any school still teach world history?
 

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I am fairly comfortable with the premise that the Israelis aren't going to blow up the World Trade Center. Not so sure about Hamas with its Iranian backers. . .

Now that it has been confirmed (maybe/unofficially) that they are holding American hostages there is another quandry. I don't know what we can do to rescue them. Apparently Israel doesn't want our troops there. . .


The U.S. is working closely with Israel to recover hostages in Gaza, with FBI and Pentagon personnel on the ground in Israel providing support to Israeli special operators. Administration officials made clear that the U.S. would play a secondary role.

"The Israelis have made it very clear that they don't want foreign troops on their soil, that they want to prosecute these operations on their own and they have every right to want to do that,” Kirby said. “
 
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The $6,000,000,000 that was released in the terrorist negotiation should fund munitions for Israel.
 

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They have been fighting over land in the middle east since man walked on two legs, maybe even before that.

I think the solution to the middle east problem is to fence off all the contested lands, let anyone
that claims it in, no one gets out, and the last man standing owns it.
 

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I think the solution to the middle east problem is to fence off all the contested lands, let anyone
that claims it in, no one gets out, and the last man standing owns it.
I think that has already happened. The problem is that the conquered aren't willing to conveniently and magically disappear.
 
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Now I am really confused. Sleeper cells on what side?
Is that a serious question? Are you really concerned about Israeli sleeper cells?

In case you missed it there was a call for jihad today around the world--thus the sleeper cells.
 

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Is that a serious question? Are you really concerned about Israeli sleeper cells?

In case you missed it there was a call for jihad today around the world--thus the sleeper cells.
I am well aware of the call.

Do you remember this symbol ? They are still around.

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There are no innocent parties in the middle east. This war is not going to end well.
 

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I am well aware of the call.

Do you remember this symbol ? They are still around.

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There are no innocent parties in the middle east. This war is not going to end well.

There are no innocent parties in the middle east. This war is not going to end well.

There, fixed it for ya. ;)
 
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I am well aware of the call.

Do you remember this symbol ? They are still around.

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There are no innocent parties in the middle east. This war is not going to end well.
Really ??? This is what you are going with? A fringe radical group denounced by 'everyone' that essentially disbanded about 10 years ago.