Trailering my L3560 LE 800 miles…my set up. ** New photos**

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hmm..does that trailer have brakes on BOTH axles ? didn't see that in the posted 'spec sheet'. Usually it's not a problem getting a full load up to highway speed , its STOPPING that becomes the issue !
Since you're close to 'max weight', consider 2nd axle brakes if not already installed.
It's a roll of the dice around here if a tendem trailer has both..not required by law,mfrs derate lil hauler to skirt the laws on SA trailer as well.
Yes, both axles have electric brakes. I called the mfg to confirm.
 

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Thank you to all who provided comments. Made some modifications including moving the tractor towards the trailer tongue about 12” or so. Here are new photos…

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On the tractor front you have the straps at a good angle to help prevent side to side movement. If you could cross the straps on the tractor rear, or add additional straps that are crossed, that would help prevent the movement. A metal deck doesn't get a real good grip on the tires.
 
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Don’t know…
You’ll want to know. My eye suggests it’s well over 15% tongue weight with the front axle of the tractor only being about 8 inches from the center of the tandem axels on the trailer and the rear axle of the tractor being over 5’ from the center of the trailer axels.

Why Does Tongue Weight Matter?

“Too much tongue weight could overload the rear tires of the towing vehicle, pushing the rear end of the vehicle around. When this happens, the vehicle is difficult to control; corners or curves may become more difficult to maneuver and your vehicle may not be as responsive when you try to brake.“
 
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Sorry, long post...

Your set up looks pretty good, even at max rating of the trailer.

As long as you cinch up your straps every few hundred miles, keep an eye on her in your rear view, and no trailer sway ..... and carry a spare tire for the trailer. Especially since your rolling at max rating for the trailer.

The biggest issue I've had trailering flat beds with equipment on them, (once I get the tongue weight right), or toyhauler travel trailers.... is tires. Most trailers of any type, come new from the factory with what are known as "China bombs". Which are Chinese trailer tires.

I run the best trailer tires I can find. Recently it's Goodyear brand. And I replace them every 4 years on trailers I do long runs with. No matter how good they look!

Since you're at max capacity on your trailer, I'd recommend setting your PSI at about 90 percent of the tires rating. Not 100 percent, because the tires heat up as you roll. And the air expands. Unless its zero degrees outside.

The best luck I've had on NOT-maxed-out capacity trailers. Is 65 to 70 psi on 80 psi max rated tires.

If your tires are old, do not run max psi. You'll risk blowing the tread off the tires. Don't ask me how I know.... it was a bad day. Or actually 2 days of anguish... blew 2 tires in less than 1/2 a mile. I now try to carry 2 spares.
 
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I may have missed your answer, if so I apologize. Are your rear tires loaded?
I just have a nagging feeling you’re bumped right up to or possibly exceeding gross weight limits. 800 miles is a long haul. Normally I would not be concerned but your safety (trust me, i do not consider myself a safety sally) and others that share the road are at stake.

I personally think it would be wise to revisit the possibility of using your friends 10k trailer.
 
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You’ll want to know. My eye suggests it’s well over 15% tongue weight with the front axle of the tractor only being about 8 inches from the center of the tandem axels on the trailer and the rear axle of the tractor being over 5’ from the center of the trailer axels.

Why Does Tongue Weight Matter?

“Too much tongue weight could overload the rear tires of the towing vehicle, pushing the rear end of the vehicle around. When this happens, the vehicle is difficult to control; corners or curves may become more difficult to maneuver and your vehicle may not be as responsive when you try to brake.“

Respectfully, better too much than too little tongue weight. His truck is a big bad boy and can handle it.

I may have missed your answer, if so I apologize. Are your rear tires loaded?
I just have a nagging feeling you’re bumped right up to or possibly exceeding gross weight limits. 800 miles is a long haul. Normally I would not be concerned but your safety (trust me, i do not consider myself a safety sally) and others that share the road are at stake.

I personally think it would be wise to revisit the possibility of using your friends 10k trailer.
I gotta say, that I agree. Running a trailer at max capacity for a few mikes.... is not the same as 800 miles.
 
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Pictures of OTT Tractors on Trailers

Just a point of reference. There might be a photo in there like the new load position. Not saying all those pictures are 100% correct, but I’d doubt they are all 100% wrong?

Personally, I don’t care much too what anyone might chose to attempt. To the extent no one else is put at risk. Like 60 mph on a multi lane interstate for a couple days could lend itself to.

Too much tongue weight takes weight off the tow vehicle steering axel.
 
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On the tractor front you have the straps at a good angle to help prevent side to side movement. If you could cross the straps on the tractor rear, or add additional straps that are crossed, that would help prevent the movement. A metal deck doesn't get a real good grip on the tires.
I will see what I can do with all the items that might be in the way of crossing. Not worried about the front as the wheel nets have the front “trapped”.
 

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Don’t know…
It would be a very good idea to find that out.
Tongue eight can be measured with a set of bathroom scales, and a simple ratio formula.
Look it up on etrailer.com, or google
 

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I may have missed your answer, if so I apologize. Are your rear tires loaded?
I just have a nagging feeling you’re bumped right up to or possibly exceeding gross weight limits. 800 miles is a long haul. Normally I would not be concerned but your safety (trust me, i do not consider myself a safety sally) and others that share the road are at stake.

I personally think it would be wise to revisit the possibility of using your friends 10k trailer.
Tires are not loaded.
 

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Made it to Maine, no problems. Tractor safely tucked away in new garage. Thank you everyone!

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