b5001E Stuck in neutral

[BERLINERBEER]

Hi All, My B5001E is stuck in neutral. The Pto will not turn, Changing from hi to low also hasn't changed anything.
I have managed to get the tractor out of the field using the bucket to nudge along backward so the wheels are turning freely.
My question : where do I start interms of ruling things out. At the time it stopped working there was NOT a big bang/clunk etc. I was mowing using flail implement and had just reversed and went to move forwards again. Hydraulics are working fine.
Any guidance greatly apreciated.

 

[Russell King]

I suspect the shifting fork may have come loose or out of position.

Does it feel like it is shifting and just not or does it feel different than before? I would try to lift the top cover of the transmission case and see if you can see if it looks okay. I think if you lift it too high it will get disconnected but then you can see if anything looks off and then reinstall the cover and shiftin forks

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

Clutch is cooked, or you have damaged / broken the input shaft.
I say this because you have neither movement of PTO function.
If it was a shifting fork issue, you would still have PTO function.

 

[BERLINERBEER]

Clutch is cooked, or you have damaged / broken the input shaft.
I say this because you have neither movement of PTO function.
If it was a shifting fork issue, you would still have PTO function.

Great thanks for the Pointers, Just managed to recover the tractor to our Garage. So next step is pulling things apart. Haynes Manual is en route so once its here I'm gunna make a start

 

[BERLINERBEER]

I suspect the shifting fork may have come loose or out of position.

Does it feel like it is shifting and just not or does it feel different than before? I would try to lift the top cover of the transmission case and see if you can see if it looks okay. I think if you lift it too high it will get disconnected but then you can see if anything looks off and then reinstall the cover and shiftin forks

Feels same as Before, thanks for posting

 

[BERLINERBEER]

So I have split the tractor at the gearbox end! here's what I have discovered.
Now What next? I don't even know what to call the shaft that's broken.Any help greatly appreciated.

 

[billrigsby]

So I have split the tractor at the gearbox end! here's what I have discovered.
Now What next? I don't even know what to call the shaft that's broken.Any help greatly appreciated.

Neither is from an exact manual for your tractor, but similar.....

From a B7000 Parts Manual

From a B5000, B7000 Parts Manual

Hope this helps a little.

 

[billrigsby]

These guys Stavros Savva and Sons ltd show a couple of shafts for the B5001,
but without seeing more of either side, not sure if they are the same?

 

[BERLINERBEER]

Neither is from an exact manual for your tractor, but similar.....

From a B7000 Parts Manual
View attachment 101674

From a B5000, B7000 Parts Manual
View attachment 101675

Hope this helps a little.

TOTALY AWESOME ! MY NEIGHBOUR IS A RETIRED TRUCK MECHANIC AND HAS HELPEDME GET THIS FAR

 

[BERLINERBEER]

Right with a little help I have managed to locate and remove the component from the gear box. Its proper mangled! From looking at the diagrams billrigsby supplied (thanks mate) I'm still not sure re part number ?

 

[billrigsby]

That does look to be 66621-1431-1,
their website has measurements to confirm, good luck.

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

Ouch, that's some serious damage!
It's very possible that something else is jammed up or broken to make it twist a shaft like that.

 

[BERLINERBEER]

Ouch, that's some serious damage!
It's very possible that something else is jammed up or broken to make it twist a shaft like that.

Oh yes I'm crying inside.
Found this part
kubota-shaft-t11-b5000

 

[BERLINERBEER]

That does look to be 66621-1431-1,
their website has measurements to confirm, good luck.

Yes the measurements check out ok so I have ordered! fingers crossed. Thanks so much for your help