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on the service end of it, you have certain things that MUST be done according to osha. If working on high voltage (+50v as I remember, which all of them are), you are required to buy and "maintain" special set of gloves, which require recertification every so often depending on usage. Also have to use special work areas that are roped off, and they want a second tech to be in presence at all times. Fluids, they all have to be nonconductive. Fork lifts and bucket trucks that are powered by high voltage must use special nonconductive hydraulic fluids. Just the tip of the iceberg. So when you take your little ev in for service, you're probably gonna pay more than you will if it was a gas burner. The costs to the dealer are higher. MUCH higher. If you're paying $100/hr now, because 2 techs are required to work on the HV system, proably have to pay $200/hr for that type work. It's not gonna get any cheaper.
Some of us don't drive much anymore. For us, if you plan to store your EV, there are a set of special things you need to do in order to prepare it for storage. Most of the LIFePo battery packs recommend that you discharge the battery to, IIRC, 30% SOC, before storage. Storage is defined as one week as I remember. So if you ain't using the car for a week, you gotta go drive around a while and run the battery down. Shouldn't be too hard on most of them since range is still pretty low. For me, that's driving across town and back.
electricity is "cheap"....but as demand goes up, and it will go WAY up, the cost will also rise. The thought here is that EV's will charge mostly at night. Sure. That's when plants get a break. So, what if something breaks down at the plant and needs attention? Somebody's power if fixing to go out, maybe temporarily or maybe for a good while who knows. It's already happening. Secondly, power is currently generated by wind water coal and gas, nuclear being the last but not least. Wind power is not a viable option to expand the demands on the grid, as it's not reliable in most places in the usa. The wind don't always blow enough. Wind turbines in their current configuration can't produce enough and they aren't reliable enough. Water (hydroelectric) needs a very special set of circumstances to be viable, almost all of them are designed solely for the purpose of helping the main plants. Right now our local hydropower lake is down about 8 foot and they are not generating at all. None. Our leader already promised us that he was going to attack fossil fuel, so you can't depend on gas and coal, even our local gas plant which WAS coal (mandated to switch over) is being decommissioned, per government. They don't want gas or coal plants. So that leave nuke power and solar. Solar power plants aren't a good option but during the day in the summer. From about Sept through March, there ain't enough sunny days to generate enough to even put a dent in demand. The local schools are finding that out. They still are reliant on nuke power. Nuke power in itself is plenty safe but the byproducts are the biggest issue. That and the many regulations set forth, ain't no new nuke plants being built and the newest ones are pretty aged now which begs the question, what's gonna have to change to make them generate more to meet the demands of the loss of fossil-fueled plants going offline, and when hydro solar and wind don't work? Therein lies a set of issues, of which noone has addressed yet.
So electricity is going to get considerably more expensive. My home electric bill is generally less than $100 in the middle of summer, about $25-$35 in the winter But I am predicting that in less than 10 years that will be double. Unless my wages increase proportionally, I can't afford it. And wages never (EVER) increase proportional to inflation. Look for that to happen. I really do feel sorry for those of you who purchased big homes and such, local guy has an electric bill of $3700 in the middle of the summer, and typically $1100-$1200 in the winter. Mind you it's a 15,000 sq ft house, that 4 people live in but you get the idea. They don't need it, but they could afford it, so why not right? IF (when) that electric bill doubles, I don't want to hear em griping. They (and everyone else) knew it was coming.
Range is an issue. Let's say a car company advertises 400 mile range for instance (and some of them did, and backed down off of that number quietly). The range is under ideal conditions that rarely if ever exist. THey call it "real world" testing but it's not. The wind is at their back, one driver that weighs 140 lbs, no cargo, perfect temperatures, perfect SOC (state of charge), flat land, with the tires inflated to 60 psi, and an engineered speed of which the vehicle is the most efficient. No rain, dry, perfect roads, flat or downhill. Well it's hilly here. Sometimes it gets windy in them thar hills. It rains often (although not much in September and October of 2022), it gets HOT (and humid), and then 6 months later it might be below zero for a few days. One could say temperate. I know people who own EV's and they all say the same thing. Nice, for a while but you still have to keep a gas car for certain things. Range being an issue. So if you still have to keep a gas car, why waste the money on a new ev? Not all of us have the money for 2 cars (and their payments, insurance, taxes). On taxes, locally if the vehicle is registered at electric power or hybrid, you pay a $200 tax on it every year when you register. Plus the personal property tax is higher as well. That is going to have to change if they want to force us all into them. And they will, and they'll make lots and lots of money in doing so-mark my words. They ain't cramming it down our throats for no reason.
there's a whole laundry list of issues that not many talk about and this is just the start of it.
on the service end of it, you have certain things that MUST be done according to osha. If working on high voltage (+50v as I remember, which all of them are), you are required to buy and "maintain" special set of gloves, which require recertification every so often depending on usage. Also have to use special work areas that are roped off, and they want a second tech to be in presence at all times. Fluids, they all have to be nonconductive. Fork lifts and bucket trucks that are powered by high voltage must use special nonconductive hydraulic fluids. Just the tip of the iceberg. So when you take your little ev in for service, you're probably gonna pay more than you will if it was a gas burner. The costs to the dealer are higher. MUCH higher. If you're paying $100/hr now, because 2 techs are required to work on the HV system, proably have to pay $200/hr for that type work. It's not gonna get any cheaper.
Some of us don't drive much anymore. For us, if you plan to store your EV, there are a set of special things you need to do in order to prepare it for storage. Most of the LIFePo battery packs recommend that you discharge the battery to, IIRC, 30% SOC, before storage. Storage is defined as one week as I remember. So if you ain't using the car for a week, you gotta go drive around a while and run the battery down. Shouldn't be too hard on most of them since range is still pretty low. For me, that's driving across town and back.
electricity is "cheap"....but as demand goes up, and it will go WAY up, the cost will also rise. The thought here is that EV's will charge mostly at night. Sure. That's when plants get a break. So, what if something breaks down at the plant and needs attention? Somebody's power if fixing to go out, maybe temporarily or maybe for a good while who knows. It's already happening. Secondly, power is currently generated by wind water coal and gas, nuclear being the last but not least. Wind power is not a viable option to expand the demands on the grid, as it's not reliable in most places in the usa. The wind don't always blow enough. Wind turbines in their current configuration can't produce enough and they aren't reliable enough. Water (hydroelectric) needs a very special set of circumstances to be viable, almost all of them are designed solely for the purpose of helping the main plants. Right now our local hydropower lake is down about 8 foot and they are not generating at all. None. Our leader already promised us that he was going to attack fossil fuel, so you can't depend on gas and coal, even our local gas plant which WAS coal (mandated to switch over) is being decommissioned, per government. They don't want gas or coal plants. So that leave nuke power and solar. Solar power plants aren't a good option but during the day in the summer. From about Sept through March, there ain't enough sunny days to generate enough to even put a dent in demand. The local schools are finding that out. They still are reliant on nuke power. Nuke power in itself is plenty safe but the byproducts are the biggest issue. That and the many regulations set forth, ain't no new nuke plants being built and the newest ones are pretty aged now which begs the question, what's gonna have to change to make them generate more to meet the demands of the loss of fossil-fueled plants going offline, and when hydro solar and wind don't work? Therein lies a set of issues, of which noone has addressed yet.
So electricity is going to get considerably more expensive. My home electric bill is generally less than $100 in the middle of summer, about $25-$35 in the winter But I am predicting that in less than 10 years that will be double. Unless my wages increase proportionally, I can't afford it. And wages never (EVER) increase proportional to inflation. Look for that to happen. I really do feel sorry for those of you who purchased big homes and such, local guy has an electric bill of $3700 in the middle of the summer, and typically $1100-$1200 in the winter. Mind you it's a 15,000 sq ft house, that 4 people live in but you get the idea. They don't need it, but they could afford it, so why not right? IF (when) that electric bill doubles, I don't want to hear em griping. They (and everyone else) knew it was coming.
Range is an issue. Let's say a car company advertises 400 mile range for instance (and some of them did, and backed down off of that number quietly). The range is under ideal conditions that rarely if ever exist. THey call it "real world" testing but it's not. The wind is at their back, one driver that weighs 140 lbs, no cargo, perfect temperatures, perfect SOC (state of charge), flat land, with the tires inflated to 60 psi, and an engineered speed of which the vehicle is the most efficient. No rain, dry, perfect roads, flat or downhill. Well it's hilly here. Sometimes it gets windy in them thar hills. It rains often (although not much in September and October of 2022), it gets HOT (and humid), and then 6 months later it might be below zero for a few days. One could say temperate. I know people who own EV's and they all say the same thing. Nice, for a while but you still have to keep a gas car for certain things. Range being an issue. So if you still have to keep a gas car, why waste the money on a new ev? Not all of us have the money for 2 cars (and their payments, insurance, taxes). On taxes, locally if the vehicle is registered at electric power or hybrid, you pay a $200 tax on it every year when you register. Plus the personal property tax is higher as well. That is going to have to change if they want to force us all into them. And they will, and they'll make lots and lots of money in doing so-mark my words. They ain't cramming it down our throats for no reason.
there's a whole laundry list of issues that not many talk about and this is just the start of it.
