PTO grinding L3800

[saxon]

Well, another problem. There is a bad grinding noise when I release the clutch pedal after engaging the PTO lever.
I tightened up the cable from the lever good n tight, and the noise was not as loud, but still there was grinding sound while engaged.
There is a 4 bolt flange where the PTO shaft goes in.
Is it possible to remove that flange and pull the shaft out for inspection?
Thanks

 

[Boatman]

Does it sound anything like the video in my first post here?
L2800HST PTO engagement noise | OrangeTractorTalks - Everything Kubota

Also if you overtighten the cable it will wear the engagement lever inside the transmission. There is a picture of the wear in one of my posts,

 

[saxon]

I my have overtightened the cable, but the grinding/clacking sounded a little less.
So I dont reckon pulling out the pto shaft to see if the teeth are worn out is not a good idea?

 

[saxon]

Yes I did look at your video. Good information.
I guess pulling the pto shaft out from the rear is not ok?

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

Yes I did look at your video. Good information.
I guess pulling the pto shaft out from the rear is not ok?

Pulling the shaft out the back is not going to tell you if the clutch plates are damaged.

 

[Henro]

Pulling the shaft out the back is not going to tell you if the clutch plates are damaged.

But the grinding is when the clutch is released, after the PTO is engaged, right?

If it were a clutch issue, would not the grinding appear when doing something else other than using the PTO?

As usual, only interested and not seeing the total picture probably...

 

[Boatman]

I my have overtightened the cable, but the grinding/clacking sounded a little less.
So I dont reckon pulling out the pto shaft to see if the teeth are worn out is not a good idea?

Yep.... I did that too and found it wore the end of the engagement lever.

As Wolfman said above... pulling the shaft wont do you any good.

What pto implement are you running?

 

[Boatman]

But the grinding is when the clutch is released, after the PTO is engaged, right?

If it were a clutch issue, would not the grinding appear when doing something else other than using the PTO?

As usual, only interested and not seeing the total picture probably...

The PTO has it's own slipper clutch. Look at my thread I post posted above.

 

[saxon]

My implement is a 5 ft tiller.
I reckon I should have made sure to say it is an HST.
And yes the grinding noise only happens when the PTO lever is engaged nd then let up on the clutch pedal.
Thanks All

 

[Boatman]

My implement is a 5 ft tiller.
I reckon I should have made sure to say it is an HST.
And yes the grinding noise only happens when the PTO lever is engaged nd then let up on the clutch pedal.
Thanks All

Gonna have to split and replace the clutch. Not a hard job. If you have the parts on hand you can do it in a weekend.

 

[saxon]

What is the difference, in this tractor, between a cam and a clutch, or better to say what are their different functions?

 

[saxon]

Selfish question here:
I am late already getiing my garden tilled up and planted.
Reckon I could get away with hooking up the tiller and till the garden?
If I am going to have to separate and repair the problem I sure would like to have my grden planted first???????????????????

 

[Jim L.]

saxon

L3800 HST from your other thread.

My take is that I would rent a tiller because of time. If you have to order parts to fix something it may take awhile and you could lose your window.

Not being there, I don't know the cause of the noise and would be concerned about secondary damage from a disintegrated bearing, or clutch failure.

Can you share your history of hydraulic fluid and both filter changes on this L3800HST? Fluid now at correct level? Type of fluid?

 

[Boatman]

What is the difference, in this tractor, between a cam and a clutch, or better to say what are their different functions?

Well the best I can describe it.... in these tractors the PTO clutch is a pair of mating slipper cams.

I wouldn't chance it with the tiller. At some point the cams will completely round off.

 

[saxon]

At 100 hours I changed both filters for the hydraulics.
It does still have the original fluid in it and the level is right.
253 hours now

 

[Boatman]

Nothing to see here. Edited.

 

[wendol]

BTW... the WSM is on sale for $29....

Kubota L3800 WSM Service Manual Download - Kubota Manual

Does anyone know if this is legit?
I paid for the manual download........yet it will not download to my computer.
Awaiting a reply to the problem with an email sent to a gmail address!!!???

 

[PoTreeBoy]

Does anyone know if this is legit?
I paid for the manual download........yet it will not download to my computer.
Awaiting a reply to the problem with an email sent to a gmail address!!!???

I had a bad $29 experience with kubotamanual.com.
You can search 'Kubotamanual' with my user name.

 

[Boatman]

Crap.... I'll remove the link. I got my L2800 manual from there a couple years ago and it went as planned.

 

[wendol]

Does anyone know if this is legit?
I paid for the manual download........yet it will not download to my computer.
Awaiting a reply to the problem with an email sent to a gmail address!!!???

Update: Received an email from the contact.........they sent another download within the email response, that downloaded OK. At first glance, it appears to be a good buy for $29.00!!